Report: Janklow Going 70 - 75 Mph at Crash ( this should ans questions)

[Noordam]

AP News

Report: Janklow Going 70 - 75 Mph at Crash
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 7:23 p.m. ET

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) -- Rep. Bill Janklow was driving 70 mph to 75 mph when he ran a stop sign and collided with a motorcycle, killing the biker, according to an accident report released by the South Dakota Highway Patrol.

The speed limit on the road is 55 mph.

A motorcycle driven by Randolph E. Scott of Hardwick, Minn., collided with Janklow's Cadillac, which spun around and ended up in a ditch at the edge of a soybean field after the crash.

Prosecutor William Ellingson has said he would decide whether to file charges against Janklow until the release of the report.

According to the report, Janklow said there was a vehicle in his lane and that he had to swerve around it. However, no other vehicles are listed in the report.

The report also says neither man had been drinking

<this is just a short AP piece >

[Uzybone]

1. So when does he go to jail? n/t

n/t

[demdave]

6. I would hope right after the trial.

I wouldn't think he is a flight risk. Reasonable bail, fair trial and appropriate sentence is what I believe we need. No "special" treatment because he is connected in polotics.

[hlthe2b]

14. yeah right... do a google on him and learn about his rape charges

that he never faced. the young lady had a (convenient) deadly accident on a N. American reservation after the fact. However, if he steps foot on the reservation, he would be nailed!

[demdave]

18. Well..you convince me.......let's just lynch him.

With your dazzling rhetoric, I am now convinced the U.S. legal system is totally beyond repair and we should simply revert to lawlessness. Count me in.

[aquart]

22. I can bring the feathers. Who's got the tar?

[BlackRhino]

2. Test

Test

[BlackRhino]

3. Yay!

My little star is there! ;-)

[zekeson]

4. I posted (and removed) a dupe of this with a few other bits...

http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/4052958.html

Janklow doing 70-75 mph when he hit Minnesota biker
Wayne Ortman, Associated Press

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. -- Rep. Bill Janklow was driving 70-75 mph when he ran a stop sign and collided with a motorcycle, according to an accident report released Wednesday by the South Dakota Highway Patrol.

The speed limit on the road is 55 mph.

I heard on the way home tonight on MPR that toxicology reports would not be released until any possible trial so as to not jepardize any trials. WTF?

http://news.mpr.org/headlines/ about 3 or 4 stories in...
Prosecutor won't release Janklow blood test results
The county prosecutor in charge of the investigation into a car accident involving South Dakota Congressman Bill Janklow says he won't release results of blood tests. --snip-- Moody County State's Attorney William Ellingson released a written statement saying he won't release the results of the blood tests. He says in any case a criminal charge may be brought, making evidence public could jeopardize a fair trial.

Another nice story on this political verteran who seemingly chronically broke safety laws (comign to our attention now since someone besides himself paid the ultimate price:

http://news.mpr.org/features/2003/08/18_hetlandc_janklow/
Sioux Falls, S.D. — In a written statement, Moody County State's Attorney William Ellingson said preliminary reports indicate Janklow did not stop at the stop sign.

Janklow's son, Russ, confirmed that his dad did run the stop sign. Russ Janklow says he believes his father was preoccupied and in a hurry. But, he says that's no excuse and should be held accountable.
--snip--
Janklow had a dozen speeding tickets between 1990 and 1994, and the fines totaled more than $1,000. Janklow has not received a speeding ticket since Oct. 1994.

Under South Dakota law, accidents resulting in a death can result in a variety of charges. The most serious is vehicular homicide, which applies when alcohol is involved. Blood samples were taken from both Janklow and the the motorcyclist, and the results have not been released.

Second-degree manslaughter is possible when evidence suggests death was caused by recklessness.

[Noordam]

5. I do not read 777 Clubers post

:evilgrin:

[zekeson]

8. Yikes!

that was scary - glad to be past that milestone!

[bluestateguy]

7. Speeding

I got a ticket for driving 76 in a 60 MPH zone. 15-20 MPH falls outside of that margin of error that would cause people and cops to say "big deal". That is clearly "ticketable".

[nixonwasbetterthanW]

9. ah, the old "had to swerve around phantom vehicle" defense

Sorry, Bill, you used that one before, about 10 years ago in Sioux Falls, after you rear-ended your first innocent victim.

Anyway, exactly how would one be properly positioned so as to have to "swerve around" another vehicle while doing 70 on the approach to a stop sign one has been aware of for decades?

[THUNDER HANDS]

10. how can they tell how fast he was going?

Did he admit to going 75 mph...or is there a way to check that on the car itself?

:shrug:

[Cha]

12. I think there must be a way they can tell!

[rustydog]

20. Distance treveled after brakes are applied....

distance traveled after point of impact etc..

[NNN0LHI]

13. Here is how they knew

http://slate.msn.com/id/2087207/

Event data recorders know when you've been speeding, and when you've hit the brake.

By Paul Boutin
Posted Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 9:25 AM PT

After South Dakota Rep. and former Gov. Bill Janklow, R-S.D., collided with a motorcycle last weekend, a state prosecutor said investigators believed Janklow may have run a stop sign, causing the crash in which the motorcyclist died.*

The Associated Press reported that according to a South Dakota highway patrol officer, "Janklow's 1995 Cadillac has a black box, which records information such as how fast the car was going and whether the brakes were applied." How many cars have such black boxes, and what information do they record?

Black boxes—event data recorders like the ones found in airliners—are increasingly common in automobiles and vary from one type of car to another. But cars with airbags have long had onboard computers with the sensors and software necessary to determine within 1/100 of a second that you're in a crash; that's how cars know when to deploy the bags. These computers, called sensing and diagnostic modules, are located inside the transmission hump, behind the dashboard, or under the seat, and constantly collect and process data on the car's acceleration or deceleration. Airbag-equipped cars made by General Motors (which owns Cadillac) have had SDMs since 1974.

more

[Pert_UK]

16. Easy to do.....

Even without a computer they could work it out from skidmarks on the road, where the car stopped after the impact and various other factors.

P.

[Cha]

11. Who was that woman who ran against him for the Congress?

Stephanie ? She sounded like she would be really Great in Congress!
:kick:

[mndemocrat_29]

25. Stephanie Herseth

She would be REALLY great in Congress. She's said she'll run if she doesn't have to take on Thune or Janklow. I'm guessing that Janklow will turn down another run and that Thune will probably try for the Senate, so Herseth should be in. Her high name recognition and her good performance in the last election should get her elected to Congress (remember, before Thune and Janklow, there were two Democrats, Daschle and Johnson). If the trend of first Democratic Representative, then Democratic Senator continues, Herseth could be the person to replace Daschle in 2010, should he retire.

[dArKeR]

15. Join the Laura Bush Club

http://www.bartcop.com/pickles.htm

Just think how many tickety this guy was let off when he showed his id!

[enki23]

17. how in hell would the presence, or absence of another vehicle matter?

it was a stop sign. if he ran it going 70-75 he was completely in the wrong. maybe even *more* so if there were another vehicle in his lane which actually stopped for it.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Difference between DWI and sober?

Sober is doing it with clear knowledge and unimpeded by impairment.
That would and should considered the individual more culpable of the act they commit.

[Dude_CalmDown]

19. Lock him up, rip his legs off and use them to beat him to near death,

every afternoon at 4:30.

[DS1]

24. Dude_CalmDown,

can we wait until he's convicted?

Your handle was just so appropriate.

[yellowcanine]

23. This means involuntary manslaughter at least

and possibly vehicular homicide if he was DUI. He also runs the risk of a perjury charge if he repeats the statement about the other vehicle under oath and it turns out that none of the witnesses saw another vehicle. Apparently there were at least two witnesses - his passanger and another motorcycle rider who was traveling with the victim. I would guess his passenger will not want to go out on a limb for him - what would be the point?

[aquart]

26. Inside Edition just did the Janklow story.

With an interview with his victim's dad.

God bless tabloid TV.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

27. Flight risk...

...the car Janklow was driving belonged to his friend, private investigator Mark Tobias. Things just get murkier and murkier here. More details in the news articles I cited.

Sioux Falls ArgusLeader <http://www.ArgusLeader.com>
Thursday, August 21, 2003

Rep. Bill Janklow was driving 70 to 75 mph Saturday afternoon when his car collided with a motorcycle, killing its driver, a state accident report shows. Janklow told authorities at the accident scene "there was a vehicle in his lane of traffic and he had to make an evasive maneuver to avoid" it, according to the report, which was made available late Wednesday.

<snip>

"I'm being told by all sorts of people that when you're in a traumatic accident like this you end up seeing and saying all sorts of things," Russ Janklow said.

<snip>

<http://www.argusleader.com/news/Thursdayfeature.shtml>

The posted speed limit on that highway was 55 mph. The motorcyclist/victim was deemed to be traveling at 55-60 mph at the time of collision.

[dArKeR]

28. Finally on CBS - Cops: S.D. Rep. Speeding Pre-Crash

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/18/politics/main568860.shtml

[nixonwasbetterthanW]

29. Does Janklow's son realize how deep he's digging?

Methinks Russ Janklow should just keep quiet. He's had to twist the story into more complex contortions just about every day as more information is released.

First:

<http://www.argusleader.com/news/Thursdayfeature.shtml>

(snip)

Janklow told authorities at the accident scene "there was a vehicle in his lane of traffic and he had to make an evasive maneuver to avoid" it, according to the report, which was made available late Wednesday.

(snip)

said his father was confused after the collision about the details of the accident and was unsure what had happened.

"I'm being told by all sorts of people that when you're in a traumatic accident like this you end up seeing and saying all sorts of things," Russ Janklow said.


And across the state, in the Rapid City Journal:

<http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/articles/2003/08/21/front/top/news01.txt>

Scott was buried Wednesday after a funeral service in a packed church in Hardwick, his cousin, Terri Bruynes of Luverne, Minn., said. She said she wasn't surprised to hear that Janklow might have been going 70 or 75 mph.

"It's not really surprising with what we've seen so far. We figured he couldn't have been coming to a rolling stop," Bruynes said. "I'm surprised for his own safety that he would go through a stop sign like that."

Bruynes pointed out that there is a warning sign before the stop sign and that Janklow was familiar with the road, which is a few miles south of his hometown of Flandreau.

Janklow is recovering at home in Brandon and still suffers physical pain and mental confusion about the accident, his son said. While acknowledging that his dad was breaking the speed limit at the time of the accident, Russell Janklow said his father wasn't driving fast enough to be considered reckless in a legal sense.

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