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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:24 PM
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Barbs 'Hurt' Party-Switching Congressman
BATON ROUGE, La. - A party-switching Louisiana congressman said Tuesday he's surprised and "hurt" by Democrats' reactions to his defection to the Republicans — and vowed to return nearly $90,000 given to him by members of his old party.

"I'm somewhat puzzled as to how much hoopla this has created," Rep. Rodney Alexander (news, bio, voting record) said in a conference call with reporters Tuesday.
...
"It hurt like the dickens," the first-term congressman said. "I wasn't a coward. That took a lot of courage to do that."

His explanation of the switch has shifted somewhat.

On Friday, he declared: "I'm ashamed of some of the things the Democratic Party stands for."

On Tuesday, he suggested a political calculation was at the root of his decision. He said he had become worried about "erosion" in his base of support, after another Democrat, a politically unknown black woman, qualified to run against him.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040810/ap_on_el_ho/louisiana_congress
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:26 PM
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1. the moron really expected to take the money
the Reps deserve the mouth-breather. take him.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:29 PM
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4. Prolly was a Pub Mole planted with us then split in a way to hurt us
That is treachery deserving of banishment. He will never be able to call himself a Dem from this moment on....
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:27 PM
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2. I'm not angry at all
The Democratic Party is a liberal party. We don't need anymore Zell Millers.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:29 PM
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3. "His explanation of the switch has shifted somewhat."
On Friday, he declared: "I'm ashamed of some of the things the Democratic Party stands for."

On Tuesday, he suggested a political calculation was at the root of his decision.

:think: wondering which explantion is accurate
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:31 PM
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5. Not "courage".. Courage would have been announcing the switch
MONTHS ago, so that the Dems could have had time to find an opponent.. He took the coward's way out.. Took the money..and announced when it was too late..so he could "run" unopposed....Coward !!

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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:33 PM
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6. party switching congressman
you know why it takes to party switching congressmen in Louisiana to eat and armadillo------ONE TO EAT IT AND THE OTHER TO FLAG TRAFFIC
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:36 PM
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7. It 'hurts'??...too fucking bad mate...
..then you shouldn't shaft the people that funded you then should you?
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:37 PM
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8. Boo frickin' hoo!
I hope he realizes that this could blow up in his face. I mean, if it happened in my district, I'd vote for a cartoon character before I'd vote for his silly ass.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:44 PM
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9. Awww, widdle Wodney got hisself a boo-boo?
You can always resign if the game's too tough, Mr. Alexander.
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:44 PM
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10. Well, maybe, just maybe,
asshole, you shouldn't have waited until the last day to change parties. What a frickin' idiot. :grr:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:52 PM
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12. I saw Rep. Bob Menendez asked about this on c-span
this morning and he was articualtely livid and put this into a great perspective for us.

He talked about all the time and money the Dems had put into rodney's campaign as an endangered candidate. And now it was so late to put someone else up to run on the Dem ticket. Bob thought the money should be returned to the Democratic Party.


Said he had never seen anything like this in his life.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:50 PM
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11. Any of those terrible trial lawyers out there
able to tell us if there is fraud here? Maybe even racketeering if this was a conspiracy?
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 06:21 PM
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13. He also lost most of his staff,
they quit on him.


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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 06:56 PM
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14. Puzzled by the hoopla, but it took courage.
punk ass punk. it would have taken courage if you had done it EXPECTING the hoopla. But you thought you could slip it in under the radar.

"Puzzled by the hoopla". Kind of poetic I guess.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:00 PM
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15. "Knee-deep in the hoopla" is more like it....
to quote Starship.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:01 PM
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16. coward!
What is he saying? That he's afraid of a woman?
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:15 PM
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17. Be honest: what did you think of Jeffords' defection?
I can't help but feel that there's an analogy here. I mean, I think most of us were pretty pleased when Jeffords defected from the GOP, I confess I was. So is it hypocritical to lambast Alexander for doing the same thing? Personally, I reconcile the matter by telling myself that, although I was admittedly pleased to see the GOP's drive to recreate 1930s Germany checked at least somewhat by Jefford's defection, I'm pretty sure there was another part of me that kind of disapproved of his methods - after all, Jeffords won as the GOP candidate, his supporters cast their votes for him at least in part because he was a Republican and he might very well not ever have made it into office were it not for that fact. So a part of me felt that it would have been more ethical for him to have retained his party affiliation and waited to change parties until his next election, at which point voters could have decided for themselves whether they agreed with his motivations and still wanted to support him as a Democratic candidate. Then again, I seem to recall myself defending Jeffords actions at the time by telling friends that I thought it was only acting responsibly to conclude that his party was no longer representing his constituents' interests, so maybe I'm full of shit and being hypocritical after all.

I guess I'm not sure what to make of this party switching business. Is it ever ethical? Should we pass a rule that says that Congressional representatives can't change parties in mid-stream without some sort of public referendum on the switch? Or is it contextual, okay in some circumstances and not in others? What do DUers think?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:21 PM
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19. Jeffords is an Independent
at which point voters could have decided for themselves whether they agreed with his motivations and still wanted to support him as a Democratic candidate.

Jeffords is officially an Independent. He is not now, nor has he ever been, a member of the Comm, uh, er, Democratic party.

We do appreciate his support on the leadership votes, though... :-)
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:27 PM
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21. Right, sorry, that's what I meant
But does it make a diference to you that he switched to indepenedent? Would it let Alexander off the hook if he had switched to independent status rather than joining the Nazi, uh, er, Republican Party?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:26 PM
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20. The scummy part is
that Alexander switched just minutes before the filing deadline, therefore preventing any opposition to his re-election. Jeffords switched about five years before the filing deadline.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:28 PM
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23. Good point
I hadn't thought of that, thanks! :hi:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:17 PM
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18. 1, 2, 3, ... Awwwwwwwwwww!!
:nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

He said he had become worried about "erosion" in his base of support, after another Democrat, a politically unknown black woman, qualified to run against him.

Translation, courtesy of KamaAina Labs: "You good ol' boys know damn well that the Democrats are the party of those people. That's why I switched. I just can't say it out loud... yet..."
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:28 PM
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22. Big difference
Jeffords didn't wait until after the primary to switch parties. What he did is ruin any chance the Dems had to find a suitable candidate.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:41 PM
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24. At least this guy changed before the election
That little weasel, Nathan Deale, who represents my district changed over AFTER being elected as a Democrat.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:14 PM
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25. What A Pile Of Dung!
If the treacherous pole-cat does not like being accurately described, he should conduct himself like a human being, instead of a turn-coat low enough to walk upright under a snake's belly....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 08:46 PM
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26. As Far As I Am Concerned...
Alexander is a gutless loser. He belongs with the Repukes. Good riddance!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:23 PM
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27. HE's hurt? WTF about those o'US who VOTED for his sorry ass....
...only to find out after the fuckin' fact that he's a DINO? :grr: :mad: :puke:
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:40 PM
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28. It's obvious he can't be trusted
Who in their right mind would vote for him now?
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 09:44 PM
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29. Here's another Rod, you're a whore!
What a pussbag.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 01:58 AM
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30. I Feel Sooo Sorry For Congressman Benedict^H^H^H^HAlexandar
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-04 02:17 AM
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31. What a weakling.
If he's gonna be feeling sorry for himself like that then he better just get out of politics altogether. We sure wouldn't want his delicate constitution to be upset now, would we?
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