Some fans don't want musicians to play politics

[Justice]

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2004/08/10/some_fans_dont_want_musicians_to_play_politics/

The grumbling began as soon as the Boss said he would, for the first time, stump for a presidential candidate. "This is a sad day for me," a fan wrote on the Bruce Springsteen Internet newsgroup. "After 25 years as a hardcore Bruce fan, I'm officially done with him."

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty opened his weekly radio show Friday with "Born to Run," but followed by saying he was "heartbroken" that Springsteen had gone partisan.

Republicans also say that there's a chance the tour could backfire if these artists -- who will be seen as supporting Kerry but won't be under the control of campaign handlers -- say anything too controversial.
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Funny, not one mention in this article about all the country singers who are staunch Bush supporters, and who actively support him. These few fans are not unhappy about musicans in politics - just that their "favorite" musician is supporting Kerry, not Bush. I don't think you would even see this story if the concerts were to promote voting for Bush.

Also, republicans don't like these 527 organizations because democrats are able to get their message out via the 527s. What republicans are upset about is only that they don't own the airwaves.

Lastly, the media likes being the voice - and is unhappy that someone else can break thru the media barrier and be the voice. They want to compartmentalize people - you are a musician, you can only sing, you have no right to speak about politics; you are a fireman, just fight fires, you have no right to speak about politics. Meanwhile, the media can talk about everyone from musicians to politicans. Just like Obama said, we are not red states and blue states - we are the united states of america. Musicans have political opinions, fireman have opinions about music.

[union_maid]

1. Some fans never listened to the words

This isn't anything new. I know folksingers who come from a tradition of of leftwing politics who have conservative fans, who actually sing along to the songs that are diametrically opposing their worldview. There are RWers who still love the music that was the soundtrack to the 60's movement. They think it's all "just music". It isn't. It never was. Springsteen has been singing about social,economic and political justice for his whole career. People would know that if they listened to more than the chorus.

[truthisfreedom]

3. the irony is lost on these thugs. whatever malice they hold against these

artists today will be forgotten tomorrow... they have no real attention span. if they did, they'd be Democrats.

[joeunderdog]

50. Dear RightWing Radio DJ,

Thank you for asking me what I think about rock stars promoting their political opinions, like so many of you are doing nowadays. Obviously, you feel that Rock DJ's are far more qualified to opine on politics than musicians. I had to listen to your RW ClearChannel Mantra on the Iraq war every morning for months. And just like when I decided to listen to another station in the morning, these rock stars will run some risk of losing fans, too. I guess there is a risk and a benefit for all of this stuff. You are in fact upping the risk of being a liberal rocker just by suggesting that they are acting out of place, but it was ok when you spouted off. I never listened to Howard Stern before he took his chance, and I'm part of the reason his ratings are up. So aren't you.

You put your money where your mouth is, but I didn't buy what you were selling. Alot of us didn't. So let the singers sing their song now.

[RobinA]

5. As a Bruce Fan

I've experienced this disconnect myself. People claiming they don't want to hear him talk about politics, just play music. I always wonder how dense they can be. He's been political since forever. His whole THING is political. I guess these people stopped listening in 1975, or else they just don't get it. Maybe because he doesn't have a song called "I am a Democrat" it never occurred to them what he is actually singing about. Odd, since one of the reasons I like him is his obvious political bent. But then, I'm a big fan of folk music.

But it still mystifies me. His entire vibe is left wing, how can they miss it?

[SemperEadem]

33. They must have forgotten when he told the Reagan campaign

that they could not use his song "Born in the USA" for his campaign song. Hello!!! Connect some dots!!!

[Hobarticus]

51. 'Cuz they're phony Boss fans!

These are right-wing nabobs who suddenly claim to be long-time Boss fans so they can write in and discredit this tour.

If they truly were Bruce fans, then they're stupid, because they obviously haven't been listening to him for decades.

[EOTE]

28. Kind of like Ben Stein....

He's always said that Bob Dylan is his all time favorite artist. I wonder what Dylan thinks of him.

[rednek_Liberal]

64. Cheny Ben Stein ..and the horse he fell off of.

God I hate that smarmy egotistical asswipe.

[rvgwinn]

2. opinions

Might as well get rid of the first amendment. I guess it only applies to the few!

[hughee99]

47. I don't see where

this is a "1st ammendment" issue? The government isn't going to stop the tour. Some people don't want a concert to turn into a political rally, I can understand that. If I go out for a nice dinner, I don't want the chef to come out and tell me about his politics while I eat. I think the artists are being very up-front about this. They've announced that they're going to be stumping for Kerry, if you like Springsteen, for example, but don't want to hear him talk about Kerry, don't go to the show. If a celebrity (the Gropenator or Dennis Miller for example) constantly wants to tell me about what he or she thinks, I won't watch or buy whatever they're selling anymore. Celebrities, in my opinion, only have their "podium" because they are popular among a large group of people. If they choose to do something that pisses some of those people off, that's their right, but there are consequences. Some of us call people who speak out brave, and they are. The reason they are brave is because they are risking something that they don't have to in order to do what they think is right. The repukes have every much as right not to listen as the musicians do to speak out. Isn't that what the 1st ammendment is all about?

[northzax]

57. I agree with this exactly

I think the Rock for change tour (whatever it's called) is doing it right. Instead of starting to comment politically (not in songs, but in commentary) on a tour already sold out, they are telling people ahead of time: "look, we're doing this because we belive in the following things...If you like it, come out and see us, if you don't, then stay home. I don't pay money to hear musicians talk about politics. sure they can sing about it, but I don't pay 50 bucks to see Bruce Springsteen to get a political lecture, aimed at the people who don't get his message in the music. I'd be annoyed if I bought a ticket to a concert from a band that once was not overtly political in their concerts and they started to lecture me. even if I agreed with them (Linda Rondstadt, are you listening?)

These folks are advertising, just like Farm Aid, or LiveAid, that this concert comes with a political message. fair warning.

And I consider it the responsibility of every American to be active politically. Whatever your opinion, if you hold it strongly, and you know what you are talking about, then let her rip. but don't deviate from your past practice without fair warning to people who pay you money. I don't want to pay to hear Dave Matthews lecture me on policy anymore than I want to hear him play the tuba, it's not what I pay for. now I know. and so does everyone else. caveat emptor.

[sendero]

4. Backfire?

Let me get this straight. Some Dem fans of Springsteen might find he is supporting Kerry and vote for Bush*?

You guys are even stupider than I thought :) And that's not easy!

[leesa]

6. They hate people teeling the truth, those politically biased fans.

If they listened to Springsteen all these years and didn't get that he would speak out against the Bush Crime Family, then they weren't listening to the lyrics, were they?

[Matilda]

7. I'm glad to see singers get involved in politics,

especially at a time like this.

One of the big differences between now and the sixties peace movement
has been the lack of great protest songs. A lot of people back then
got caught up in the protest movement by way of the music, and it
was an added dimension.

[Wright Patman]

9. There's been a "chilling effect"

on the First Amendment which has been gaining momentum ever since the 1960s. People are afraid to speak out for fear of losing their livelihoods or even being arrested under the Patriot Act.

Corporations have far more power over the media. The consolidation of control into just a few conglomerates which has occurred since then is truly breathtaking.

Vietnam was truly seen as an "optional" war whereas it has taken a while to convince people that Iraq was no different. And the Vietnam had no staged Pearl Harbor-style "galvanizing" event such as occurred on 9-11. Obviously, to say it was staged, I am saying it was at least a LIHOP, if not outright MIHOP event.

Also, LBJ was a very convenient villain and so was Nixon. They even looked like gangsters. * himself merely looks stupid.

I almost left out perhaps the most important difference of all. There is no military draft--yet.

[Matilda]

10. I understand that the playing up of the fear factor has had an impact.

Perhaps it's beginning to erode just a bit?

[russian33]

8. I don't want actors becoming governors...

..but we know how that worked out..

[DemBones DemBones]

13. Twice! And don't forget pro wrestlers, either.

We should probably amend the Constitution to prohibit actors, pro wrestlers, musicians, "sports figures," etc., from eligibility for the presidency. Ahnold is certainly thinking about it even now.

[Boat Guy]

45. Hey!

What if I decide I want to run for President someday? You sayin' just because I belong to the actors' union I'm automatically disqualified?

Why, why - that's jes' plain unumurkin!

[Justice]

11. Great Feedback, Opinions

It is important to get these thoughts out to the media, and I encourage people to contact various media outlets. If not, we will have to listen to folks like Laura Ingraham tell us how the "musical elites" should "shut up and sing"

Funny, no one has trouble with country singers teaming up with Sean Hannity in NJ and Utah for concerts, or with Lee Greenwood singing at *s parties in 2000.

I say, let them all sing whereever and let the voters decide.

[JerseygirlCT]

18. No. THOSE people are patriots, you see. Springsteen... well

you just don't dare support something other than the current administration.

It's nonsense. To all those "fans" who will no longer listen to Springsteen-- good riddance. He's certainly not hurting for fans, anyway. (What was it, 10 sold out shows at Giant Stadium last summer?) You've obviously had no clue all along.

[Khephra]

12. Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty opened his weekly radio show Friday

"radio show"?

Am I to believe that he only plays songs that fit his ideology? Isn't he using radio to push an ideology too?

Hypocrite.

[Democat]

14. Fans only hate left leaning politicians according to the media!

The media would not want to question any right wing celebrity - after all it is a right wing celebrities duty to stand up for what he or she believes is right.

Only those on the left must be destroyed.

Reagan and Arnold are fine.

[jonnyblitz]

24. exactly. RW celebs are allowed to give their opinions

without repurcussion. Nobody is whining about Brittany's "much anticipated" GOP convention debut.....

[Benhurst]

15. I refuse to believe Bruce Springsteen has come out against

the Leader.

It's all a lie.

Next they'll be claiming Edith Piaf worked against the Nazis during World War II.

[Nambe]

16. We should welcome these nay-sayers at the concerts/festivals!

Followers of dishonest, duplicitous politicians simply don't realize how dangerous they are to society. It is wrong to fear or hate them. They have real world problems and deserve compassion and sympathy IMO. Something in their makeup blocks their vision of the horrors of war, the pain of poverty, and the misery of a society blind to inequality. Few of our opponents are wealthy elitists like those they follow. Compassion is an innate quality in all creatures that will evolve in the personality when given a chance. The idea of a call for peace and tolerance by this societies iconic poets/musicians is a good opportunity for us to welcome those creatures that are blind to the caring affection that "liberals" have for all creatures. Religion owes it's origins to deep thinking orators that emulate the beauty and peace that follows a fair, just, and all inclusive society. Let's welcome everybody, especially the people that don't see the horrible consequences of being blind to the suffering caused by leaders with an unjust agenda. For the sake of our youth and the generations to come, we need to embrace the citizens that don't understand us and our caring intentions.

These concerts are meant to reach out in my opinion. Let's reach out.

Nambe

[psychopomp]

17. Right On.

I hope the tour really works out. I like your way of thinking. The polarization between "us" and "them" is extreme and nearly total on both sides. It is not just the people leaning right, it is the lefties also who have become repulsed, fearful and angry.

Really, the only way this thing is to work out is if we continue the dialogue and let more tolerance and compassion in (call it love) and see that we are in this together.

[Carni]

19. Who gives a shit if they are upset

NOTE TO LURKING FREEPERS

Listen to Wayne Newton and STFU!

[young_at_heart]

20. Evidently, only SOME people have to freedom to say what they think

Entertainers must be muzzled......that is if they are the opposition. I'm still perplexed at the country singers....surely Loretta Lynn doesn't support Bush!

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Oh, I think she does

:shrug:

[Tansy_Gold]

44. I wonder if any coal miners in the coal miner's daughter's

family are affected by the decision to ax their health benefits.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x740275

But of course as long as * spouts the rightwing social agenda -- no gay marriage! no more abortions! a church in every school! -- the wingnuts will allow themselves to be screwed blue and black -- black lung, that is.


assholes. All of 'em, assholes

[markses]

21. Anyone who says Springsteen shouldn't be political is a fucking idiot

Springsteen has always been political, and the politics have been fairly clear. Anyone who listens to "The Ghost of Tom Joad" and doesn't get Bruce's politics is a damn fool, simple as that. Period.

What's wrong with these people?

The Ghost of Tom Joad
Men walkin' 'long the railroad tracks
Goin' someplace there's no goin' back
Highway patrol choppers comin' up over the ridge
Hot soup on a campfire under the bridge
Shelter line stretchin' round the corner
Welcome to the new world order
Families sleepin' in their cars in the southwest
No home no job no peace no rest

The highway is alive tonight
But nobody's kiddin' nobody about where it goes
I'm sittin' down here in the campfire light
Searchin' for the ghost of Tom Joad

He pulls prayer book out of his sleeping bag
Preacher lights up a butt and takes a drag
Waitin' for when the last shall be first and the first shall be last
In a cardboard box 'neath the underpass
Got a one-way ticket to the promised land
You got a hole in your belly and gun in your hand
Sleeping on a pillow of solid rock
Bathin' in the city aqueduct

The highway is alive tonight
But where it's headed everybody knows
I'm sittin' down here in the campfire light
Waitin' on the ghost of Tom Joad

Now Tom said "Mom, wherever there's a cop beatin' a guy
Wherever a hungry newborn baby cries
Where there's a fight 'gainst the blood and hatred in the air
Look for me Mom I'll be there
Wherever there's somebody fightin' for a place to stand
Or decent job or a helpin' hand
Wherever somebody's strugglin' to be free
Look in their eyes Mom you'll see me."

The highway is alive tonight
But nobody's kiddin' nobody about where it goes
I'm sittin' downhere in the campfire light
With the ghost of old Tom Joad

Sinaloa Cowboys
Miguel came from a small town in northern Mexico.
He came north with his brother Louis to California three years ago
They crossed at the river levee, when Louis was just sixteen
And found work together in the fields of the San Joaquin

They left their homes and family
Their father said, "My sons one thing you will learn,
for everything the north gives, it exacts a price in return."
They worked side by side in the orchards
From morning till the day was through
Doing the work the hueros wouldn't do.

Word was out some men in from Sinaloa were looking for some hands
Well, deep in Fresno county there was a deserted chicken ranch
And there in a small tin shack on the edge of a ravine
Miguel and Louis stood cooking methamphetamine

You could spend a year in the orchards
Or make half as much in one ten hour shift
Working for the men from Sinaloa
But if you slipped the hydriodic acid
Could burn right through your skin
They'd leave you spittin' up blood in the desert
If you breathed those fumes in

It was early one winter evening as Miguel stood watch outside
When the shack exploded, lighting up the valley night
Miguel carried Louis' body over his shoulder down a swale
To the creekside and there in the tall grass, Louis Rosales died
Miguel lifted Louis' body into his truck and then he drove
To where the morning sunlight fell on a eucalyptus grove
There in the dirt he dug up ten-thousand dollars. all that they'd saved
Kissed his brothers lips and placed him in his grave

[Sabriel]

22. Yes, let's keep politics out of art of any kind

From now on, music shall only be about flowers and puppies. Ditto for sculpture and paintings and....

Can't wait for the Springsteen song about Teletubbies or food! A whole album of songs about...nothing....

[trogdor]

41. Well...

...they used to do songs mostly about girls, fast cars, or the latest fad, like surfing, CB radio, or running around in one's birthday suit at sporting events. Those were the days.

[Coventina]

23. Those "fans" are FULL OF IT!

There is no way a "hardcore fan of 25 years" is going to be "done" with an artist overnight.

Puh-leez!! Back when I was a little right-wing robot, I listened to very "left" music. I was into punk, alternative, etc. I would say, "Well, I might not like their politics but...." You know what? I think listening to the music eventually helped in my growing up and getting wiser.

Anyway, I just find it difficult to believe that anyone who has been hardcore into and artist for 25 years would post a message like that.
I think it's a freeper trying to scare Bruce.

[saigon68]

35. they prefer the guy who WANTS TO PUT A BOOT UP YOUR ASS

YIKES

[noonwitch]

25. No one is telling them they have to go to the concert or buy any records

It's not like any rw boycott of Bruce Springsteen is going to put a dent in his fortune.

They should listen to the new Prince cd. There's a great social protest song on it, "Dear Mr. Man".

[hatrack]

26. Some fans can go and fuck themselves nt

.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

27. EVERYONE S/B 'POLITICAL.' IT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY. sheesh. n/t

[Dover]

29. If they don't like the mix then they are no fans of Rock & Roll

or folk, or rap, or....well you get the point. It's called social commentary.

It's at the heart of all these musical genres...and of art in general.

[Nambe]

30. Rock and Roll does not accommodate rebellion!

I wish Midnight Oil's Peter Garrett would come. Our bed's are burning.

[Naipes]

31. Heck, even Born in the USA ...

is a protest song. I'm willing to bet a large majority of the RW that love that tune, because they think it's a flag waving tribute to America, don't know the song's true message.

[SemperEadem]

32. nothing is gonna backfire on any of these artists

I"m so sick of these spoiled brat rw losers who can't tolerate differing views and beliefs, casting aspersions on everyone not drinking their kool-aid.

NO artist is under any mandate to cowtow to any political party. No artist is required to check their political views at the door. Most of these folks' views have been known since back when these complainers were shitting in their diapers. If you've got a problem with the political views of your favorite entertainer, then stay the eff home, don't buy their records. That's how you 'vote'. You don't get to demand that they not feel a certain way or that they refrain from expressing themselves... that is unconstitutional.

The RW may think that the bill of rights is a thing of the past, used to wipe their asses with, but the rest of us believe in that document and the rest of the constitution and its guarantees, especially to free speech.

STAY THE HELL HOME IF YOU CAN'T COUNTENANCE AN OPINION YOU DON'T LIKE. Your attendance at the concert is not required and frankly, the rest of us will appreciate the clearer air as a result.

[otohara]

34. Republican Are "Hoping" This Will Backfire

shit, not even Clear Channel can ban the boss from their stations.

[Kadie]

36. and some fans do. n/t

[ChrisK]

37. I just hope they never listen to Reggae

They might fall in love with the beats and after a few years notice that the songs are about THEM..In a bad way mind you.

The arts have always been a way for people to express themselves politically and political expression has been intertwined in art going as far back as William Shakespeare and beyond...I guess some folks only pay attention when an artist is in there face on where he/she stands...Which for most performers is in almost all there songs, one just needs to listen a bit harder.

Your only a true fan when you listen with your mind and not just your ears.

[kwolf68]

39. More sinister forces at work

No one in here should be shocked that the right is going to try to render the music/entertainment establishment impotent.

Think of two other institutions? MEDIA and HIGHER EDUCATION. For years and years we have been told these places are the bastion of Liberalism and should be battled against with alternative (presumably Conservative) opinions, these Liberals (press or teachers) should be replaced by someone who “doesn’t advance an ideology.”

So we see the media is taken over by right wing forces, but instead of “a Liberal” ideology being advanced, we now have a Conservative ideology being advanced. In their warped view of the world, it CAN ONLY BE OBJECTIVE if it IS NOT Liberal.

The media has been under assault for 20+ years now. What we have seen is the continued drumbeat of “Liberal Media” all the while the media falls deeper and deeper into the cadre of the right. Now two of the major news channels are essentially Republican Television Stations and the other (MSNBC) has treated us to Joe Scarborough, and the ever-despicable Mike Savage. Does a Liberal media let such vile ideologues onto their airwaves with an hour to say whatever they want?

The education establishment is being neutered as well. While many high intellectuals still hold onto their Liberal beliefs, most censor themselves for the fear of reprisals from “Johnny’s right wing father” or David Horowitz.

However, the music (and entertainment) industry is still vibrant, still Liberal and is so rich and powerful they don’t give a shit what the right says about them. There is no job to lose if you are Bruce Springsteen. Even the most right-wing record exec would dare to toss a cash-cow like Bruce to the wolves. Smaller, more radical bands, find refuge on independent labels, word of mouth.

The right can’t stand it. Here stands an established movement that is decidedly left-wing. Further, they are active, and influential.

What is most inconspicuous is the absence of critique for Conservative entertainers and musicians who speak out on behalf of Republican ideology. Here again, the gross hypocrisy of the Conservative movement in this nation stands strong.

The battle will be waged against any institution that is decidedly Liberal. You don’t see anyone not left of center complaining about Wall-Street, Pete Coors, Toby Keith, Ben Stein, FoxNews, CNN, Wall Street Journal, Clear Channel, AM Radio, and a host of other propagandist charlatans hellbent on explaining to the world that “Liberals” are running our lives.

The “Liberal media myth” is such bullshit and they know it.

[Borgnine]

43. Well said.

You summed it up better than I can through my disgust with these people.

[JimHarper3]

40. If we had banned actors, too...

There wouldn't have been Reganomics...wouldn't that have been nice.

[bobbyboucher]

42. This is studity on so many levels.

They sound more and more like fucking zombies every day.

[Tansy_Gold]

46. They wish. . . . .

"Republicans also say that there's a chance the tour could backfire if these artists -- who will be seen as supporting Kerry but won't be under the control of campaign handlers -- say anything too controversial."

The pukes are trying to stop this tour by suggesting it's not good for the Dems. "Oh, you know how radical some of those artists can be. They might, like, say something BAD, like compare our great leader to, well, an unmentionable part of the female anatomy! I mean, you wouldn't want THAT to happen, would you? It might backfire on Kerry!"

Like I said, they wish.

The only thing that could stop this is if the Dems get chickenlivered again, the way they usually do.

For crying out loud, GO FOR IT.

I'm tickled pink this is happening. I may have grown up a republican, but I was never so far to the right that I didn't understand the music of the 60s and what it was saying about the war and the violence and the hatred. More than anything, it was the pop culture that I grew up in that allowed me to keep my eyes and mind open even in an atmosphere almost totally conservative.

Hitler and Mao and the vast rightwing conspiracy we are living under all knew the power of popular culture. It's time for us to take it back.

[Joanne98]

48. boo fucking hoo

not fans, republican fans. message to the rw, get your own fucking artists.

[SoCalDem]

49. Boo-Hoo..

"Celebrities" do not become non-citizens when they become famous.. The same people who are crying "foul" about Springsteen, see NO harm in hijacking California for Ahhhhnold , nor did they see any harm when Reagan was hoisted into the presidential seat of power..

Celebrities actually can have an extra added bonus, in that they HAVE traveled all over the world, and may have glimpsed the outside world.. True, they have their go-fers and assistants who do the "heavy lifting", but it's impossible to travel, and NOT see the poverty and the broken infrastructures all over the world.

Another feature is that they can usually read and speak in complete sentences..

So.. any of them who do not like Springsteen and the other celebs for Kerry...a big fat BOO HOO.. These musicians will replace them with NEW fans who may not have liked their music before, but after discovering their politics..will now buy their CDs..if just for gifts :)

[rocktivity]

52. The grumbling began in the right-wing media

as part of a media assault on the "Hollywood liberal" movement. I don't recall any national stories being written about Toby Keith going partisan.

:headbang:
rocknation

[VolcanoJen]

53. Dave Matthews Band fans...

... check out my Lounge post about this topic, complete with hilarious anti-Dave freeper comment:

Goodbye, Dave Matthews Band!

[struggle4progress]

54. Maybe we can cut a deal: Democratic fans tell their musicians ...

to ignore politics if Republican musicians tell their own fans to ignore politics.

[VoteDemocratic2004]

55. The Boss is from a meager background

If Bruce was supporting Bush they would have him on the road right now with them.

[Manix]

56. ....what about dickhead Toby Keith?

[drdtroit]

58. They are just once again afraid of the truth.

Springsteen, Dave Matthews, R.E.M., Bonnie Raitt, John Fogerty, and John Mellencamp are not simply entertainers or celebrities. Those are both by-products arising from people needing to hear and feel the message of what they say. They are truly artists (no, not simply in the sense that some "images" are considered artists. They create music and lyric because the muse lives within them and by accepting that responsibility they are compelled to "hold up" the sociological and cultural "mirror".
If you can't stand the truth, stay home.

[footinmouth]

59. Bush has his celebrity supporters too

Geez, I just heard that Brittney Spears and Jessica Simpson just love George W. Let's bring those 2 out at the convention. Thank you very much but I'd much rather have old Bruce in my corner.

[peekaloo]

60. Waaaaahhhhh....I no like my music to make me think.

[Spiffarino]

63. Yep. Boo-frickin'-hoo.

Of course, when it's Arnie "Der Gropenfuhrer", Bruce Willis, or John "I Never Served" Wayne talking politics, that's just fine. As long as it's their entertainer.

Wasn't it Laura Ingraham who wrote a god-awful book about entertainers called "Shut Up and Sing?"

alan colmes called bullshit on her. He said, "So why is it only liberals? What about Bruce Willis, Schwarzenegger? Should they shut up?" Of course she said, no, that they were patriotic Americans, blah-de-blah. He pounced all over her for being a complete hypocrite until Sean Ins-Hannity came to her rescue. It was beautiful to see colmes finally grow a pair and put the smack down on her.

[True_Blue]

61. I like knowing how my favorite stars think

and so does the majority of Americans. Fans usually like to know every little detail about their favorite stars.

[Spiffarino]

62. I hope ClearChannel, etc., really turns up the heat

That'll take care of the publicity, and that means more money for our side!

Republicans. Always looking out for our marketing needs. :*