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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:57 PM
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Film sways voters (F9/11)
Film sways voters
By April Middleton / Salina Journal
July 19th, 2004 12:18 pm

After watching the newest Michael Moore film Saturday, Adam Burchfield said he definitely wont vote for Bush.

Most people who attended the showings this weekend at Central Mall Cinemas, though, said Fahrenheit 9/11 wont likely turn President Bushs strongest supporters against him.

Burchfield, 20, Salina, said his opinion about Bush and the current administration has been teeter-tottering back and forth for quite some time.

Watching Fahrenheit 9/11, though, changed that, he said.

It really influenced me, Burchfield said. I definitely wont vote for Bush now. It really opened my eyes to some things.

The movie implies that the Bush family has close business ties with the bin Laden family and other wealthy Saudis. It suggests President Bush didnt really win the close election in 2000, he said. And parts of the film, he said, make the president look plain clueless.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=90
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:01 PM
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1. Salina, KANSAS?
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 07:04 PM by 56kid
if so Bush is in trouble.

Have you ever been in Salina Kansas?
I have, I used to live near there.
It's not exactly a liberal stronghold. :evilgrin:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:16 PM
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3. wouldn't it be absolutely
awesome if the dimshits lost Kansas (the most politically backward state in the union)?

I can dream, can't I?
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:08 AM
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13. Kansas is not the most politically backwards state in the Union
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 08:09 AM by 56kid
I'd give that place to Louisiana or Colorado or Utah or Arizona or Florida way before Kansas.
I know that's people's impression, but they are mistaken.
Lawrence Kansas is one of the best places in the country & other towns aren't bad either.

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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:42 AM
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15. I heard KS was quite progressive...
...once upon a time before the Pugs started this bullshit "values" debate. I mean, just because Bob Dole is from there doesn't mean they're beyond help.
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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:56 PM
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17. Louisiana is certainly not the most progressive state in the union
but we have two Democratic senators and a Democratic governor. You can't say that for many of the other states in the South.

Oh and by the way, David Duke has lost every election he has been in except for one (as a state senator, and that was in 1988)..
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 03:22 PM
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18. No insult intended
But I lived in New Orleans for about 10 years, and I can say that your Democratic Senator, John Breaux, is a Democrat in words only. He is a disgusting human being in every regard, and he votes with the Republicans more than he does with his own party. He's very similar to Zell Miller of Georgia.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:09 PM
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6. Spent the night there one time while traveling across country
The word "flat" comes to mind. Nice motel pool, though.

Not a liberal oasis, from what I could gather.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 01:02 AM
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9. "FLAT"...
as in Kansans are generally "flatliners"?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:14 PM
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2. His rock solid supporters number about 27 to 37%. This is good for
the 'undecideds' who haven't but will see the documentary.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:33 PM
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4. Implies there are ties? It doesn't imply anything.
It's right up front about the ties.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:45 PM
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5. 85% going in to see F 9/11 aren't voting for Bush and 100%
coming out of the theatre aren't.
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JohnDoe1 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:30 AM
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7. Good
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:59 AM
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8. Hi, JohnDoe1!
Welcome to the DU! May the elections mirror our sentiments. I agree with you.

Glad you're here.

:smoke:
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:49 AM
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10. Kick for the Morning Crew!
Even though the story of how F911 is breaking all records for a documentary is all over the network noose shows, people still need to read about it.

Seriously, if this was a movie about how bu$h walks on water, we'd never hear the end of it.

:argh:
dbt
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:03 AM
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11. The irony being
that Kerry's DLC driven campaign will receive it's most notable ABB boost from a progressive activist, a member of the despised, most marginalized faction of the base.

While Kerry ducks the liberal label, he should bow and kiss Moore's feet.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:38 AM
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12. Moore or the film owners should get a deal with Bravo
or one of the cable networks to broadcast the movie in October, THAT WOULD MAKE AN IMPACT. For me, an F9/11 effect will only be a passing thing, people see the movie, it bangs them over the head but after a few weeks it fades.
Getting the DVD out, distributing copies, getting it broadcast that will really lead to the debate the Mike is hoping for. Although Moore stuck close to "House of Bush/House of Saud" in the movie, "American Dynasty" presents the same conclusions about Bush, Cheney and Oil and that the deals with Enron, Carlyle, Halliburton the Saudi's etc. are more than mere coincidences but a very calculated and single minded drive that America and the GOP can and will stay the most powerful nation on Earth by control the world's supply of energy namely oil. And this has been an on-going obcession since the Kaiser discovered oil reserves in Mosul, Iraq back in 1914.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 10:13 AM
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16. I've had my convictions reinforced in the past few days
by a couple of things.

I picked up a copy of David Corn's "The Lies of George W. Bush", which is now in paperback, and I also ordered the DVD, "Unprecedented" about the 2000 vote in Florida.

I'm reading snippets of "Lies" as I wait for long downloads, and I've just finished the section on the Florida "recounts".

I watched the "Unprecedented" DVD last night while working.

Like Fahrenheit 9-11, there wasn't much new in either the book or the documentary for someone who's been paying attention and reading DU or Buzzflash .

However, all these things together have made me madder than ever and more committed to spreading the word and doing whatever I can to ensure a fair election this time.

The book and documentary are so effective that I find myself stomping into my husband's office to demand not "Why are these people still in the running?" but "Why are these people not in jail?"

And I don't mean just Bush, Cheney, et al. I mean every damned one of them who participated in what looks more and more like a coup.

Not only did they commit the larger crime of stealing the Presidency, but I think these sources (and the many others out there) show that they committed hundreds, if not thousands, of smaller crimes - - saying and doing clearly illegal things to sway that election their way.

How any of them walk the streets free is truly beyond me.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 08:22 AM
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14. The movie doesn't "imply" it CONFIRMS the Saudi ties.
Nothing in this movie has been disputed other than an ambiguous, "it stretches the truth?" NOTHING!!! It's a factual documentary on the crooked, arrogant, resident of the White House.
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