LAT: (Cal.) Gov. Wants to Repeal Law Favoring Pet Adoption

[DeepModem Mom]

Governor Wants to Repeal Law Favoring Pet Adoption
The plan to save counties and cities money would make it easier to put stray animals to death.

By Robert Salladay, Times Staff Writer


SACRAMENTO — In his brief political career, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has challenged powerful state unions, prison guards and wealthy American Indian tribes alike. But now he is up against a group with far greater numbers and a louder voice: animal lovers.

Schwarzenegger wants to repeal California's comprehensive law forcing animal shelters to hold stray cats and dogs up to six days before killing them, a budget-cutting move that has enraged pet adoption groups.

As a favor to the state's cash-poor counties and cities, Schwarzenegger has asked the state Legislature to reverse the 1998 law, which makes adoption of wayward pets the first priority of shelters instead of quickly putting them to death. The law is dubbed the Hayden Act, after former Santa Monica state senator and activist Tom Hayden.

"This is an issue that affects the care and protection of tens of thousands of stray animals, and will inflict heartbreak on a lot of owners and people in the animal adoption world," Hayden said Thursday....


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-animals25jun25,1,3609137.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. This says a lot about Arnold.

He would have been smarter if he had worked on sterilization requirements. This way he comes across as very cold and inhumane. Especially when people's pets will be killed before they've had a chance to claim them.

[DeepModem Mom]

3. With 5 beloved shelter cats in our extended family...

I am outraged on my own, and their, behalf. (One special-needs cat, the most loving pet of them all, would have gone down almost immediately if not for a no-kill shelter.)

[dusty64]

16. ahnold IS cold

and inhumane. I think he may have finally opened himself up to reveal the person he truly is, will the media question? Is it possible we may hear about his part in the economic rape of California now?

[DeepModem Mom]

17. This was the top story on the LA Times website this a.m. -- n/t

[demoman123]

44. Not surprising. American values: you can do anything you want to people,

but you can't be mean to doggies and kitties.

[DeepModem Mom]

45. LA Times print edition had Iraq carnage as the top story --

this story was on frontpage, below the fold.

[demoman123]

47. That's because it arouses prurient interest. :) nt

[Mountainman]

54. We should be kind to both animals and people

People who are cruel to animals usually are cruel to people too. So a society that is kind to animals will in some way positively effect the treatment of people.

Of course if you think I'm full of shit then screw you!

[demoman123]

62. :) n/t

[Auntie Bush]

30. "ahnold IS cold" That's to be expected! He's a Republican!

That's one of their requirements to join the party. Must be a cold SOAB****. They probably have to blow up frogs as an initiation to be a party member.

[Solly Mack]

2. Guess I'll start calling him theTerminator of Pets

Pet Killer for short...

[Kinkistyle]

5. I wonder if he'll just dump them all into big ovens

Saves time and money you know.

[Solly Mack]

8. I wouldn't give him any ideas

He might just use them.

[hlthe2b]

24. What a PR disaster: like Hitler, Schwartzenegger is a German-speaking

Austrian! These comparisons after such a cruel suggestion are only natural! While I have little doubt this is going to be rapidly defeated, the damage is going to linger a very long time! So, there you go, Schwartzenegger: stupid is as stupid does!

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. OMIGOD!

You're so right. That one is definitely going to stick. Terminator and Cat Killer. Oh, no wait. Frist is the Cat Killer.

[Solly Mack]

9. Don't forget Shrub and friends liked to torture and kill frogs

while growing up.

[HereSince1628]

18. Und if dis verks vee will sveep the strasas off vagabonts

Dhey "von't be baack" ha-hah.

[Scairp]

4. Oh geez, now he's gonna get it

"The Schwarzenegger administration said repealing the Hayden Act could save local governments up to $14 million. As proposed, shelters would be allowed to kill dogs and cats after holding them just 72 hours, regardless of whether the shelters are open to the public during those three days".

Oh man, he's really stepping into a hornet's nest now. He better leave this one alone and find another way to save the counties money. Three days, whether the shelter is open or not? No way, we are not going to stand for that out here. Remember, this is the state that hunted down and put in prison a man who yanked a woman's little dog out of her car and threw it into traffic after she bumped his vehicle slightly. Not going to make any new friends doing this Arnie.

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. Maybe an answer would be:

That they continue to hold them for 6 days, but if an owner does claim the animal in that time, the animal must be sterilized before they release it?

[napi21]

20. You're right Scairp. I was one of the people who

went after that jerk for killing that little white dog! I live in the east coast, but sent many emails and support for the dogs owner.

I am a volunteer for a national rescue group, and I sent this article to our President immediately! People thought SS was the third rail in politics??? They ain't seen nothin yet! Big Bad Arnold is going to regret opening this can of worms!

[Piperay]

10. That bastard!

Wonder what an animal loving repuke former friend of mine has to say about that, probably oblivious to the whole thing. :argh:

[saracat]

11. Now the Nazi is obvious!

It should be pointed out that pet owners who have lost their pets might be able to sue for destruction of property! What happens with microchip embedded pets are they treated differently?

[displacedtexan]

12. And there's $ to be made in small animal medical research, too.

Here in Maryland, buying a new pet (or adopting) is rather expensive because so many people buy or adopt pets and then turn around and sell them to med researchers (a la Frist and the kitties).

Classified advertising sections in newspapers warn of this horrible situation, and the process for adoption is complicated and costly because of it.

County animal shelters couldn't even operate on the meager budget they have now without the kindness of and donations from you and me!

This stinks! Thanks, Arnold!

[DeepModem Mom]

15. Thanks for making the point about donations to animal shelters...

and their need for financial support from the public. We donate during an annual Christmas fund drive, in appreciation for our pets, and donate in memory, when friends' pets pass on --

[dusty64]

13. "compassionate" my ass.

What a complete enron puppet asshole, I hope this finally breaks the bubble of "st. ahnold". Start the recall!

[gatlingforme]

14. Arnold will have quite the backlash from this. What a moron

to do this --- does he have a heart. Many strays are picked up and then the owner finds out their dog is gone and gets the pet at the shelter.... with a happy ending. What does Arnold think the law was passed for?????? effing MORON....

[pinniped]

19. Disgusting the repukes who come up with this shit.

I hope the peope of CA know what Herr Gropenator is all about now.

[luaneryder]

21. Damn him to the hottest of hells!

This is absolute proof that the man has a lump of ice where his heart should be. Every movie I have with him in it is going into the incinerator today on behalf of all the innocents he is leaving with no hope. Nazi cheese dick!

[meti57b]

22. notice it says it "could" save "up to" $14m. It might not save anything!!!

Contact your State Senators and Assembly Members.

[hlthe2b]

23. I am SO appalled, but also fascinated that he is so STUPID!

as to propose such a thing.... This is one issue that crosses lines and will surely do him in...

May these loving animals have a much longer duration life than the term he serves in office

[DBoon]

25. This ex-stray says "no" to Arnold

He's lost the pitbull vote!

[lumpy]

26. I believe Arnold failed to develope his

brain as per some kind of a quote upon winning a muscle contest, "now I can work on developing my brain".

[Hotler]

27. Arnold, just another compassionate republican.

Arnold was born an ass. Does his wife feel the same way?????

[DeepModem Mom]

28. POSTING ARNOLD CONTACT INFO from dupe thread --

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

To send an Electronic Mail please visit:
http://www.govmail.ca.gov

[napi21]

29. Thanks for the link. I just sent the Gov. an email!

Not a nasty one, just explained if he really likes his career as Gov. he should drop this plan to save money. If he sticks with it, his career will suffer as much as the animals.

[Democat]

38. You can call the local numbers too

District Offices

Fresno Office
2550 Mariposa Mall #3013
Fresno, CA 93721
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]



Los Angeles Office
300 South Spring Street
Suite 16701
Los Angeles, CA 90013
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]



Riverside Office
3737 Main Street #201
Riverside, CA 92501
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]



San Diego Office
1350 Front Street
Suite 6054
San Diego, CA 92101
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]



San Francisco Office
455 Golden Gate Avenue
Suite 14000
San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]



Washington D.C. Office
134 Hall of the States
444 North Capitol Street NW
Washington D.C. 20001
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[Piperay]

55. THANKS

I just sent and E-Mail to the asshole.

[Nevernose]

31. My God. He really DOES hate puppies.

I mean, most of us have seen or made the joke about heartless repukes, kicking puppies and stealing candy from babies, but this is the first time I've actually SEEN it.

[Kadie]

32. Hey Arnie, pick on someone your own size

stop going after the puppies, children, and disabled. Mr. Tough man, who thinks he can save our state a few bucks by going after the ones that need help the most. What a disgrace.

[cmutt]

33. Breaking news: this just in!

Apparently, all of California's numerous other problems have already been solved. We can now address the pressing issues of 'pet adoption'. What.An.Idiot.

[janx]

34. Between the Terminator's wanting more instantaneous incineration

of puppies and Cheney's yelling "fuck off" in the Senate, I'd say that these right-wingers are officially now insane!

What on earth is going on with them?!

[markses]

35. HEY! I got my cat through a California shelter

back when I was living in SF! Motherfucker. Oh, Motherfucker's not my cat's name...although sometimes I do call him that. ;-)

[janx]

36. Three DAYS? What happens when the owners show up?

Seriously, what happens when those who have adopted a dog or cat show up hoping to find Fluffy or Spot--four days later?

[nolabels]

48. I watched one day , in between the cracks of the fence behind the shelter

As the loaded up many open barrels in the back of a kind of beat up flat bed truck with wooden sides that were just tall enough to keep wondering eyes from viewing anything.

http://www.api4animals.org/1318.htm

Rendering: The Invisible Industry

By Debbie Giles

Ask what comes from "factory-farmed animals" and most people will think "food." After all, eggs come from factory-farmed chickens, milk from dairy lot cows, sausages and bacon and pork chops from factory-farmed pigs. But why should we think the use of animals stops at the dinner table?It doesn't, of course. Leather (see "Slaughtered and Skinned") goes into shoes, pelts become furs, and much of what is worn comes from animals. But it doesn't stop there.

With the rendering process, every bit of farmed animals (and sometimes even our dog and cat companions) is used in an astonishing variety of items -- lubricants, polish, soap, cement, ink, lipstick, pharmaceuticals, Jell-O, gummy candies, pet foods and agricultural feed, to name just a few. The rendering industry utilizes a "witch's brew" of animal parts: spinal cords, brains, eyeballs, and intestines, turning whatever's not wanted by the food and clothing industries into the components of a thousand useful products.
(snip)

Leftover Parts

The bulk of the material to be rendered consists of the leftover parts of a slaughtered animal. Because of the way the edible meats are cut from the carcass, the bones remain largely attached to one another.
The first step in the rendering process is to cut these large bodies into smaller, more manageable sizes. This raw material is "screw conveyed" -- dropped onto a huge screw whose sharp edges cuts the chunks into smaller pieces -- to a crusher that reduces the size to 1- or 2-inch pieces. A batch cooker cooks the pieces for 2 to 3 hours at 250-275°. These cooked materials are then put onto a sieve, known as a drain pan, where all excess fat and liquid is drained off, leaving only the solids.

The solids, now known as tankage, are conveyed to the screw press to finish the fat separation process. At this stage, the solids/tankage is known as cracklings, which gets crushed into small enough bits to filter through a 12 mesh screen, eventually becoming the "protein meal" used in livestock feed or pet food.
(snip)

[ElementaryPenguin]

37. Really beginning to despise this arrogant fucker!

Willing to do ANYTHING not to avoid raising taxes of the rich!!

:puke:
:argh:
:mad:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

39. What does ADOLF Schwarten-nazi have against pet....

adoption?

[DeepModem Mom]

40. AS wants to save money by killing shelter animals right away...

not giving them much of a chance to be adopted.

[gatlingforme]

41. you said it!!! I am glad Arnold is a Republican. I would be ashamed

if he was a Dem. x(

[RebelOne]

42. The animal rescue groups on the Internet

have already picked up on it and they are calling for action. I don't think Arnie will get away with this one.

[Cerridwen]

43. Damned good thing . . .

this dog wasn't one of Arnold's victims.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x645340

[meti57b]

46. kick

[Gloria]

49. Schwartzie is more of an animal than any of the poor animals in a

shelter....I hate this despicable pile of steroidally-induced muscle....

I just hate GOP thugs in general....

[Triana]

50. More info and what you can DO - SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE

More info re Hayden Law (CA animals)

**PLEASE CROSS-POST/FORWARD ASAP!**
>
> In his effort to solve the budget crisis, California Governor
> Schwarznegger has taken a hatchet to years of laws enacted to protect
> abused and abandoned animals. The result is the "behind closed doors"
> repeal of the Hayden bill and other pieces of humane legislation,
> passed through the years. Whether an act of omission or commission,
> the result will be a return to the horrible pre-1998 status quo for
> California animal shelters if you don't act TODAY.
>
> The two most disturbing elements of the Governor's budget are the
> return of the animal holding period to only 72 hours for all animals
> (stray and relinquished) and the elimination of the requirement that
> shelters seek veterinary care for animals at the shelter.
>
> Among the other policies that will be repealed if the current budget
> is adopted:
> *The requirement that people convicted of cruelty to animals to pay
> for the costs of the animals' care while the issue of guilt is being
> determined.
> *The requirement that as a condition of probation, people convicted of
> animal cruelty can be prevented from owning animals for three years.
> *The law that made it a duty for shelters to use all currently
> acceptable methods of identification – including microchips – to
> determine the lawful owner of any seized or impounded animals.
> *The State's policy preference for adoption instead of killing
> animals.
> *The requirement that shelters allow qualified animal adoption/rescue
> groups to take responsibility for animals if they pay the required > fee.
> *The requirement that shelters give owner-relinquished animals a
> chance to be adopted.
>
> The extent of the repeal caught everyone by surprise. We have only one
> last chance to have these draconian measures removed from the budget.
> The budget conference committee meets one final time... this weekend.
> They must be convinced to revisit the inclusion of the Hayden
> legislation as part of the budget or at least to only suspend the
> fiscal provisions of the Hayden legislation until the budget crisis
> has passed.
>
> Years of your work and the countless hours of hundreds of volunteers
> can be erased THIS WEEKEND if this repeal is allowed to occur.
>
> Listed below is contact information for the legislators who will be
> meeting this weekend to approve the proposed budget. Please contact
> them as many times as you are able before 5pm Friday, June 25th.
>
> THE FATE OF MILLIONS OF ANIMALS ARE RELYING ON YOUR ACTION. SEND AN
> EMAIL, SEND A FAX AND MAKE A CALL. Tell them NOT TO REPEAL THE HAYDEN
> LAW!
>
> QUESTIONS? Contact Rich Mc Lellan, Animal Legislative Action Network,
> [email protected] OR Jennifer Fearing, United Animal Nations,
> [email protected]
>
> Conference Committee Members
>
> Chesbro, Wes (D) - Chair
> [phone] tel
> [email protected] email
> [phone] fax
>
> Dede Alpert (D)
> [phone] tel
> [email protected] email
> [phone] fax
>
> Ross Johnson (R)
> [phone] tel
> *doesn’t use e-mail
> [phone] fax
>
> Darrell Steinberg (D)
> [phone] tel
> [email protected] email
> [phone] fax
>
> Judy Chu (D)
> [phone] tel
> *doesn’t use e-mail
> [phone] fax
>
> Rick Keene (R)
> [phone] tel
> [email protected] email
> [phone] fax
>
>
> Senate Budget Committee Staff
> Keely Martin Bosler
> Consultant
> [phone] tel
> [email protected] email
> [phone] fax
>
>
> Assembly Budget Committee Staff
> Kasey Schimke
> Consultant
> [phone] tel
> [email protected] email
> [phone]

[DeepModem Mom]

51. Drudge has cute doggy pic and link to"repeal of hold for cuties"!

Drudge: "THE TERMINATOR: Schwarzenegger Wants Strays Killed Faster; Repeal Of 6 Day Hold For Cuties..."

http://www.drudgereport.com

(Drudge link will circulate story farther and wider.)

[progressivebydesign]

53. 3 DAYS? That INCLUDES The days they are CLOSED!!!

So an animal control facility (can't call them shelters, now can we?) is closed for a three day weekend... Your found pet would be put to death. Does Arnold get off on that? What do his children think of this?
Even more egregious is the part about NOT looking for the owners of microchipped pets!!! WTF is the chip for, then?

[shadu]

56. That freaks me out

I honestly do not know what I would do
if that happened to one of my pets.

[thebeaglehaslanded]

52. I sent Guv Do-Do the following message:

"Nazis never respected life--human or otherwise. Therefore, your proposal, though misguided, is not surprising."

What a worthless piece of crap he is!

[NoKillShelterGuy]

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I'm going to go cry now.

[truthisfreedom]

58. DRUDGE REPORT: Ahh-nold backpedals

"UPDATE: Gov. Schwarzenegger says proposal to repeal the law prohibiting the destruction of lost animals for six days was a 'mistake'..."

that's all so far.

[AlGore-08.com]

59. You bet your ass it was a mistake, Herr Gropenfuehrer!

I have been spreading the word all day about the "three days and your dog/cat gets killed, even if the shelter isn't open, immediately for any other kind of animal" and EVERYBODY I spoke to was OUTRAGED.

Yet another reason to NEVER vote for Aaaaaanold.

[Kadie]

61. Governor reverses stand on shelters, reinstates waiting period - Link

Governor reverses stand on shelters, reinstates waiting period

The Associated Press
Last Updated 4:30 pm PDT Friday, June 25, 2004

SACRAMENTO (AP) - Saying he made a mistake months ago that would have made it easier for shelters to kill stray dogs and cats, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Friday he has reinstated the state's six-day waiting period before lost animals could be killed.

As part of his budget proposal that was first drafted in December, the governor had asked the Legislature to repeal a 1998 law that requires the shelters to hold animals up to six days before destroying them. The governor wanted to save money bu cutting the waiting period in half.

But after a nationwide storm of protest, the governor hastily organized a press conference outside his Capitol office and told reporters of his error.

"I realized last night that there was a mistake that I made on the budget," he explained, noting he only had a few weeks to put his proposed budget together between his inauguration in November and when the document went to the printers in December to meet the Jan. 10 deadline for delivery a spending plan to the Legislature.

more... http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/9775803p-10698599c.html

[SemperEadem]

60. I guess the answer is to increase taxes on Californians

in order to keep this program operating.