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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:41 PM Original message |
Jail Threat for Using Racist Word - Word="Paki", as used by Cheney... |
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rooboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. But here in Australia... |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. In the UK it always has racial overtones..... |
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rooboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I would take issue with one thing you wrote... |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 11:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. ROFL!!! I remember seeing a cartoon about him.... |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 01:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Rooboy... |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 01:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Good point......... |
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Mal (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Nah, you're wrong |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Well..... |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Censorship of "hate speech" is as bad as censorship of criticism of govt. |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 09:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Errrr..........what? |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 10:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That's right Pert, in the US people have the right to say stupid stuff. |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 11:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You can be arrested for threatening or abusive behaviour in the UK... |
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Ozirus (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 01:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Racist slurs threatening? |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 01:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. So......you'd feel comfortable with people shouting abuse at you? |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Well, with all our faults, I'm glad I'm HERE, then... |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:48 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I'm glad you are there too then |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Spen, I wouldn't call someone a "Paki" HERE... |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 05:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
90. Absolute bollocks |
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demdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. So they can tell you what you can and can't say? Bullshit..... |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. So can yours |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 03:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. 6000000 |
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demdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. And milk drinking |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 04:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
89. Well |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. re "Racist slurs threatening" |
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demdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Yes, we will all see the tape of the dead idot racist on TV. |
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zizzer (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 07:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
92. Um... |
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Democat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 01:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Free speech is sometimes attacked by the far left |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think it was Cheney. n/t |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-12-03 08:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Cheney definitely said it. |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:19 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I agree, Stick and Stone may Break my Bones, but names will ..... |
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short bus president (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 06:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Bush definitely did, too |
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Kamika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. So what should we call them? |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 05:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. How about |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You're joking right? |
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Kamika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 03:46 AM Response to Reply #29 |
88. but what does it matter |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 06:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. People. Men. Women. Children. |
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GregW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
20. Oh, puhlease! It's no more offensive than Yanks, Kiwis, Aussies, or Poms |
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protect freedom impeach bush now (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 03:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Pakistanis consider use in Great Britain, to be offensive |
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waggawagga (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 05:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Hahaha |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 06:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. educate yourself, waggawagga...link to an American Dictionary |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
53. I'm afraid it is...... |
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Undemcided (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Hardly offensive |
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protect freedom impeach bush now (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
32. Bush used the racist term - "Pakis" on Monday JAN 7, 2002 |
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protect freedom impeach bush now (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
33. Cheney on MTP 16 Sept 2001 used "Paks" |
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susu369 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Yes, old news - Cheney saying "Paks" on MTP |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. The "dominant culture" |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Pleqase explain what you mean |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. here's a definition from an american dictionary (link) OFFENSIVE |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. bush*: "I'll be doing a little SPADE WORK for the '04 campaign..." |
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MiltonLeBerle (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 06:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I haven't heard the term before- |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. yes, a history of racism in America...here is a link to OFFENSIVE |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:53 AM Response to Reply #45 |
70. i'm with you |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
76. Do you remember a couple of years ago |
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demdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. An insult to all selfrespecting shovels. |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. 10 ways to fight this hatred and Promote Tolerance at DU (link) |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
72. thank you for that link! |
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DeathvadeR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. So whats next? Thinking bad thoughts a crime? |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
73. i assume |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:18 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. Minority Report, Shirley? |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
49. SOME FOLLOW UP INFORMATION..... |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
50. I cannot believe that NOBODY is supporting this..... |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I STAND UP to racially abusive people...I tried...but |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I take your point and welcome support but I don't think... |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 10:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. its a VERY offensive term, according to an american dictionary |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Good points, well made...but overly behaviourist? |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Sorry, pressed the post button too early |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Hmm, tough issue. |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:04 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. open-minded people would look the word up in a dictionary |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:34 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Please discuss without abusing people |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:39 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. read this article (link)...it's about people who insist on using PAKI |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Can't Agree, but that's what makes the world go round |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-13-03 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
58. EVERY dictionary entry I can find says it's racist....Explain why it isn't |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:04 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. The Autralian Macquarie Dictionary |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. here's an American Dictionary: OFFENSIVE, and it's nice that |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:22 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Errrr........not providing a definition doensn't = not offensive |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:34 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. from your link: Not Even Stupidity Excuses Bush's 'Pakis' Slur |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Hmmm, a capital mistake |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:14 AM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Don't worry, I try to keep it reasonable and flame-free..... |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:01 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Nah, You've done OK Pert_UK |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yeah.....my apologies for the unwarranted attacks that my post generated |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:40 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. I feel like i'm in a bad sci fi movie. |
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diamond14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:47 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. read this article (link)...it's about people who insist on using PAKI |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:56 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Umm, yes. |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:06 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. I actually disagree with some of this... |
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muffit (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:11 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Yes, I have read the article |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 12:59 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. You've missed my point... |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. No, i agree with you. |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 01:07 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Still not good enough - I want the 0.1% too! |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. And I meant to add, Welcome to DU! |
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Umbram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:34 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Thanks!!! |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 02:55 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I can post this again, as it's still relevant! |
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piece sine (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 07:32 AM Response to Reply #87 |
91. OK....Yanks! Yankees! |
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Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-14-03 07:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. No. The Brits aren't applying censorship when it suits their purposes... |
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