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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:09 AM
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U.S. Acknowledges Violating International Law by Holding Prisoner...
Is this why Tenet resigned?

Note the bottom of the article and what was "embargoed" until today.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBB9BHUKVD.html


U.S. Acknowledges Violating International Law by Holding Prisoner in Secret

By Matt Kelley Associated Press Writer
Published: Jun 17, 2004

WASHINGTON (AP) - At the request of CIA Director George Tenet, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld ordered the military to secretly hold a suspected terrorist in Iraq, a Pentagon spokesman said.

The suspected terrorist has been held since October without being given an identification number and without the International Committee of the Red Cross being notified, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said. Both conditions violate the Geneva Accords on treatment of prisoners of war.

Rumsfeld ordered the Joint Chiefs of Staff to have the prisoner secretly detained on the day last October, when Tenet made the request, Whitman said.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:14 AM
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1. So Rummy gave the actual order but Tenet resigned? I am glad that the
Bushies put such a high premium on personal responsibility. Such a refreshing change and a sign that the adults are in charge once again.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:15 AM
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2. So - *when* is Rummy leaving?
Better yet, when will be get tossed in the clink for violating International law? He's a war criminal. He needs to go.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:25 AM
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3. It was Bush order.....Tenet......finally gave up on lying for them
I have been in this situtation at work. You see all kinds of digusting stuff....but it is considered the norm....when you question it....you are chastised......so finally...you have had enough of the deception and lies and you quit.....

They made him take the fall at the 9/11 commission.....which was them...not him.....they are doing it again....

This is bush, cheny, rumsfeld, ashcroft, rice, etc.
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 11:58 AM
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4. Let me guess....
Tenet ordered it Rumsfeld was just the unwitting victim....thus teflon Rummy isn't at fault. He is doing a smashing job!

On the other hand, that damn Tenet. We got rid of Tenet because he was the bad bad apple.

Why is it I believe that there is probably documentation about Rumsfeld role and not Tenet? Just a hunch.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:09 PM
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9. I think I have a pice of when that plan was worked out...
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:02 PM
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5. btw.....what
in the hell does this mean: FOLLOWING 2 GRAFS EMBARGOED until noon EDT Thursday

What is a GRAF? I do not understand. Can anyone enlighten me?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:18 PM
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6. That's probably the condition accepted by the reporter in exchange ...
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 12:19 PM by TahitiNut
... for the early information obtained from HRF, whose report on this was released today. It's not unusual ofr any organization preparing to release a report and a press release to embargo early information given to the print media. (The print media has a longer time-to-publish than other media.)

The Human Rights First report is at http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/media/2004_alerts/0617....


Footnote: A 'GRAF' is a paragraph. I think those embedded notes got transcribed to the web by a clueless transcriber.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 12:27 PM
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7. The "Tenet request" is a total red herring!
Ferkrissakes! The US maintains a whole network of secret detention facilities! There are an acknowledged 7-8 prisons in Afghanistan whose locations are kept secret! There's not a single prisoner in such camps that the ICRC can visit, since the ICRC isn't told even where they are let alone who's imprisoned! We're not talking about just one prisoner, here. We're talking about whole prisons! F*cking D'OH!?!
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 01:14 PM
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8. If Tenet made the request and Rumsfeld filled it, then ...
both are guilty. Rumsfeld should be fired, then both should be prosecuted.
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