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Fish Inspector Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:03 PM
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Sibel Edmonds: Lost In Translation
Not sure this qualifies as 'breaking news' -- but here goes:

"Sibel Edmonds, a translator who worked at the FBI's language division, says the documents weren't translated because the divison was riddled with incompetence and corruption. . . . Take the case of Jan Dickerson, a Turkish translator who worked with Edmonds. The FBI has admitted that when Dickerson was hired the bureau didn't know that she had worked for a Turkish organization being investigated by the FBI's own counter-intelligence unit. . . .

Edmonds says that when she reviewed Dickerson's translations of those tapes, she found that Dickerson had left out information crucial to the FBI's investigation - information that Edmonds says would have revealed that the Turkish intelligence officer had spies working for him inside the U.S. State Department and at the Pentagon. . . .

'We came across at least 17, 18 translations, communications that were extremely important for the ongoing investigations of these individuals,' says Edmonds. 'She had marked it as 'not important to be translated'. . . .

What kind of information did she leave out of her translation?
'Activities to obtain the United States military and intelligence secrets,' says Edmonds. . . .

Does the Sibel Edmonds case fall into any pattern of behavior, pattern of conduct on, on the part of the FBI? . . . ."

CBSNEWS.COM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml

Fish Inspector

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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:18 PM
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1. Thanks for posting this and Welcome Fish Inspector
:hi:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:19 PM
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2. This is a HUGE story.
Nice to see a US corporate news source finally running with it.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:24 PM
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3. I agree, the only thing that ticks me off is
the fact that this story has been kicking around DU for months. She was on 60 minutes briefly. The only media outlet that has explored her story in any depth has been Democracy Now with Amy Goodman. Judas Priest! What does it take to get these stories out! It makes me so depressed!
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lockdown Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 05:35 PM
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4. Interesting that they're now redoing the same story
At least that's what it looks like. This seems to be the same piece CBS did in July 2003, based on an October 2002 interview, but now it's back up with a June 6th 2004 date?

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Sibel_Edmonds
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:15 PM
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15. Hi lockdown!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:00 PM
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5. No doubt the story is being refreshed for use soon enough..
Sibel may be an important link in a story that we all need to hear.



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:04 PM
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12. yes
especially since Ashcroft did his retro classification on her testimony to the commission. People need to get a since of what it's about.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 12:21 AM
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13. mmonk..
precisely
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:35 PM
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6. 999 days after 911
on 66 6(2oughtought4) CBS is going to do the most important 911 story to date ...what gives??? or are they just trying take some wind out of MM's sails.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 06:39 PM
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7. Good, now we need to get Karen Kwiatkowski 's horror stories
from the OSP out in the public spot light.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 08:12 PM
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8. This looks like a re-broadcast of the original for this Sunday 6/6
I hope they give some update on her status as she's in legal limbo.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 08:36 PM
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9. She gave a very important interview about a month ago.
Here's the thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1555133&mesg_id=1555133

And here'e some of what she said

JH: I understand why you can't say anything about this, but there are several books out about the Bush ties to the Saudis and the bin Ladens in particular. And in David Griffin's book, The New Pearl Harbor, there is a very good synopsis of the ISI, which is the Pakistani intelligence service. He shows the direct connections between the CIA, the ISI, and Mohamed Atta. He makes a very convincing case that the Pakistani ISI had been helping to plan 9/11 for a long time.

I don't imagine that you are allowed to say much about that.

SE: You are correct. But I can tell you that the issue, on one side, boils down to money--a lot of money. And it boils down to people and their connections with this money, and that's the portion that, even with this book, has not been mentioned to this day. Because then it starts touching some people in high places.

JH: Can you explain more about what money you are talking about?

SE: The most significant information that we were receiving did not come from counter-terrorism investigations, and I want to emphasize this. It came from counter-intelligence, and certain criminal investigations, and issues that have to do with money laundering operations.

You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points - and they (the intelligence community) are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing "foreign relations" which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental levels. And I keep underlining semi-legit organizations and following the money. When you do that the picture gets grim. It gets really ugly.

JH: Let me read you a short quote from Dr. Griffin's book, quoting from War and Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11 by Michel Chossudovsky and ask you to comment on it. "...The transfer of money to Atta <$325,000>, in conjunction with the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week, is the missing link behind 9/11....The evidence confirms that al-Qaeda is supported by Pakistan's ISI (and it is amply documented that) the ISI owes its existence to the CIA."

SE: I cannot comment on that. But I can tell that once, and if, and when this issue gets to be, under real terms, investigated, you will be seeing certain people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 09:15 PM
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10. WOW is all I can say
WOW I missed this interview

i wish some one would pull the cloak of secrecy away from the Sibel Edmonds story. This lady really has a story to tell
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:00 PM
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11. Thanks for the post.....
good to see it's making the news in the mainstream.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:15 PM
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14. Hi Fish Inspector!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 03:21 AM
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16. Her scheduled 60 Minutes appearance today will be replaced with
Reagan eulogies.

Shades of the "dirty bomber" yarn knocking the 9/11 families off of C-SPAN?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:21 AM
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17. Yep.
On a special 60 Minutes, the late Ronald Reagan is remembered by Mike Wallace, who looks back at two visits with the former president and his devoted Nancy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml


Just as I suspected.
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