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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:37 AM
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Tenet Subject of "Devasting" Senate Intelligence Committee Report
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics /

'DEVESTATING' SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE REPORT:
Linda Douglass reports that according to two senior
sources familiar with the Senate Intelligence
Committee's report on pre-war intelligence failures
yet to be released, findings are "devastating" for
Tenet. Democratic sources confirm Tenet was losing
support among Democrats because of the conclusions
reached by this report. One Republican source
predicted Wednesday Tenet might resign before it is
released. The report is currently being declassified
by the CIA and is expected to be made public on June
17.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:40 AM
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1. It may be a CYA move by Tenet.
But I bet he writes a pretty damning expose book about the OSP goons and their close and personal relationship with Chalabi for years.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:40 AM
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2. just found this story on Fortune
(whole story can be obtained through paid subscription)

but the blurb definitely points out that Tenet was wooed by Woolsey - a PNACer and neo-con - may be a part of the puzzle?

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/articles/0,15114,490641,...

How George Tenet Brought the CIA Back From the Dead
Amid controversy and two wars, he's led a classic turnaround by running the Agency like a business.
By Bill Powell

Two men who would later each run the world's premier foreign

intelligence service sat down to lunch at a tony Italian restaurant in Washington, D.C. It was late 1992, and Jim Woolsey, then head of the executive committee at the Smithsonian, was looking for a general counsel. He had called George Tenet, staff director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. Tenet, Woolsey says, listened to his pitch and asked smart questions. Woolsey was encouraged; maybe he'd found his man. Only at lunch's end, after Woolsey had paid the bill, did Tenet deliver the punch line: "But, Jim, there's one problem with the general counsel's job: I'm not a lawyer."

God knows it helps, if you're the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, to be a little cunning. It also helps, in these days of Iraq and al Qaedanot to mention North Korea and Iranto have a sense of humor. George Tenet, 50, has now held one of the most difficult jobs in the world for six years, making him the third-longest-serving director of Central Intelligence (DCI) in the Agency's 56-year history. And the period during which he has presided is one in which the word "tumultuous" hardly does justice.

When Tenet became acting director in 1996, he was the CIA's seventh boss in five years. Budgets had been slashed brutally, and the cutting would continue (needless to say, the CIA's budget is classified). President Clinton was not a particular admirer of the Agency, and the coin of the realm in Washingtonface time with the Presidentbarely existed for the DCI. (When a crackpot flew a light plane into the White House in 1994, the then-famous joke in Washington was that it was Jim Woolsey trying to get a meeting with Clinton. This was a time, mind you, when people joked about planes flying into buildings.) Agency morale had plummeted, nowhere more so than in the fabled directorate of operationsthe "DO," as the spooks call ithome to the undercover spies who do the Agency's most basic and important... Continue

...more if you have a subscription...
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:54 AM
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13. Yeah, they've done a swell job
...second only to the civilian leadership at the Pentagon.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 02:49 PM
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36. I didn't need a subscription to read the story.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:40 AM
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3. what's more "personal" than that?
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:41 AM
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4. Tenet falls on his sword for the "Imperial" Bush.
Retiring for "personal reasons" is like an old Soviet apparatchik retiring for "health reasons".

It stinks like a steamer in the cat's litterbox.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:05 PM
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22. yup! n/t
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:43 AM
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5. Then these words need to be remembered:
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 11:44 AM by EarlG
"...according to two senior sources familiar with the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on pre-war intelligence failures yet to be released, findings are "devastating" for Tenet."

"He's done a superb job on behalf of the American people... George Tenet is the kind of public servant you like to work with. He's strong. He's resolute. He served his nation as the director for seven years. He has been a strong and able leader at the agency. He's been a strong leader in the war on terror. And I will miss him."

-- George W. Bush, June 3, 2004
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:50 AM
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7. see post #2
and again I ask:

What makes this all make sense?

Why would Tenet fall on his sword?

Why would Tenet not get shit-canned after 9/11 failures?

Why would DimBulb continue to praise and reward him?

Because he is a neo-con too.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:09 PM
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26. "Why would DimBulb continue to praise and reward him?"
Because this is how these things are done. Bush will leave the smears up to his surrogates.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:51 AM
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9. Time Will Tell
If Tenet has indeed done a superb job on behalf of the American people.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's been leaking on Shrub left and right. If he has, we owe him at least some thanks.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:06 PM
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23. You'd think someone could have at least written him a speech.
This was all said with the earphone prompter.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:48 AM
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6. A "devestating report" by the GOP-dominated committee....
...looks like they were looking for a scapegoat who was considered to be an enemy to the FratBoy's Reich.
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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:50 AM
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8. Maybe
Maybe you should wait for the report to come out before you make snap decisions about it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:11 PM
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27. Deleted message
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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:33 PM
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31. LOL
Haha, OK, OK, Mr. 1000 Posts, I'll keep my little trap shut. Sorry for offending you. Terribly sorry. There's nothing more I want in life than to offend some guy who spends all day on Internet messageboards. Really. I hope you can forgive me one day.

Sorry.

Sorry sorry sorry.

I hope your feelings weren't hurt.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:52 AM
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11. Yep, my take too...
this is the indicator to me that this is an attempt to stop everything at Tenet: "One Republican source
predicted ...". I don't think it will work though because the CIA is not going to take the fall for this, no way!
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:52 AM
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10. Another link?
This one isn't working.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:55 AM
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14. Works for me....
Here's the first paragraph of Smirky's transcript:

I met with George last night in the White House. I had a good visit with him. He told me he was resigning for personal reasons. I told him I'm sorry he's leaving. He's done a superb job on behalf of the American people. I accepted his letter.

I bet FDR and Churchill never made a speech in their lives that used so few simplistic words in such short sentences. :eyes:
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:59 AM
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16. You left out all the 'uhhhhhhhhs' and 'ummmmmms'
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 11:59 AM by Dover
They stretched it out a bit....and show his deep lingering thought. LOL!
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:02 PM
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18. No, I didn't leave it out...
The ABC transcribers did! Why do they always clean up his garbledy-goop slurring nightmare to any English teacher utterances?

That paragraph reminds me of See Dick run. See Jane jump. Sick.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:04 PM
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21. LOL! Well Dick is certainly running!
I think Dick and Jane must have been fundamentalists!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:00 PM
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17. it reads like and old "Dick and Jane" book
He said ....

I said....

Gawd Bless 'Merca.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:04 PM
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19. LOL!
I didn't see your response when I posted mine to Dover...

It's EXACTLY like the old English primer for what? first graders????
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:13 PM
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28. kindergarten perhaps?
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:38 PM
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33. Does he think he's the Pope and can "bless" people?
More from transcript:

He's strong, he's resolute. He's served his nation as the director for seven years. He has been a strong and able leader at the agency. He's been a strong leader in the war on terror. And I will miss him.

I send my blessings to George and his family.


"What a funny Baby!"

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:53 PM
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34. Not the Pope, but GAWD himself
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02599b.htm

The custom of giving blessings goes back to the very earliest times. In the morning of Creation, on the completion of each day's work, God blessed the living creatures that came from His hands, bidding them increase and multiply and fill the earth (Gen. i-ii). When Noe emerged from the Ark, he received God's benediction (Gen., ix, 1), and this heritage he transmitted through his sons, Sem and Japheth, to posterity. The pages of the Old Testament testify abundantly to the great extent to which the practice of blessing prevailed in the patriarchal ages. The head of each tribe and family seemed to be privileged to bestow it with a special unction and fruitfulness, and the priests at the express direction of God were wont to administer it to the people. "Thus shall you bless the children of Israel. . . and the Lord will turn His countenance and give them peace" (Num., vi, 23-26). That great value was attributed to blessings is seen from the strategy adopted by Rebecca to secure Jacob's blessing for her favourite son. In general estimation it was regarded as a mark of Divine complacency and as a sure way to secure God's benevolence, peace, and protection. The New Dispensation saw the adoption of this rite by Our Divine Lord and His Apostles, and so, elevated, ennobled, and consecrated by such high and holy usage, it came at a very early stage in the Church's history to assume definite and concrete shape as the chief among her sacramentals.

and here is who can "confer blessings":

Since, then, blessings, in the sense in which they are being considered, are entirely of ecclesiastical institution, the Church has the power to determine who shall have the right and duty to confer them. This she has done by entrusting their administration to those who are in sacerdotal orders. The solitary case in which one inferior to a priest is empowered to bless, is where the deacon blesses the paschal candle in the ceremonies of Holy Saturday. This exception is more apparent than real. For in the instance referred to the deacon acts by way of a deputy and, moreover, employs the grains of incense already blessed by the celebrant. Priests, then, are the ordinary ministers of blessings, and this is only in the fitness of things since they are ordained, as the words of the Pontifical run: "ut qucumque benedixerint benedicantur, et quacumque consecraverint consecrentur" (That what-ever they bless may be blessed, and whatever they consecrate shall be consecrated). When, therefore, laymen and women are represented as blessing others it is to be understood that this is an act of will on their part, a wish or desire for another's spiritual or temporal prosperity, an appeal to God which has nothing to recommend if but the merits of personal sanctity. The ordinary greetings and salutations that take places between Christians and Catholics, leavened by mutual wishes for a share of heavenly grace, must not be confounded with liturgical blessings. St. Gregory first definitely taught that the angels are divided into hierarchies or orders, each having its own role to play in the economy of creation. Similarly the Church recognizes different orders or grades among her ministers, assigning to some higher functions than to others. The working out of this idea is seen in the case of conferring blessings. For while it is true that a priest can ordinarily give them, some blessings are reserved to the Supreme Pontiff, some to bishops, and some to parish priests and religious. The first class is not large. The pope reserves to himself the right to bless the pallium for archbishops, Agnus-Deis, the Golden Rose, the Royal Sword, and also to give that benediction of persons to which an indulgence of some days is attached. He may, and in the case of the last mentioned often does, depute others to give these. To bishops belongs the privilege of blessing abbots at their installation, priests at their ordination, and virgins at their consecration; of blessing churches, cemeteries, oratories, and all articles for use in connection with the altar, such as chalices, vestments, and clothe, military standards, soldiers, arms, and swords; and of imparting all blessings far which Holy Oils are required. Some of these may, on delegation, be performed by inferiors. Of the blessings which priests are generally empowered to grant, some are restricted to those who have external jurisdiction, like rectors or parish priests, and others are the exclusive prerogative of persons belonging to a religious order. There is a rule, too, by which an inferior cannot bless a superior or even exercise the ordinary powers in his presence. The priest, for instance, who says Mass at which a bishop presides is not to give the final blessing without permission from the prelate. For this curious custom authors cite a text from the Epistle to the Hebrews: "And without all contradiction that which is less is blessed by that which is greater" (vii, 7). It would seem an overstraining of the passage to say that it affords an argument for maintaining that an inferior minister cannot bless one who is his superior in rank or dignity, for the text either merely ennunciates an incident of common usage, or means that the inferior by the fact that he blesses is the greater, since he acts as the representative of God.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 01:13 PM
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35. Do they still have Dick Jane and Spot?
I had those books in first grade in 1950.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:53 AM
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12. Tenet takes the fall for Bush administration ignorance.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 11:56 AM
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15. Gore "recommended" that Tenet resign in his recent speech
Edited on Thu Jun-03-04 12:03 PM by Dover
Gore said Tenet was his personal friend, a good person, and that it was regretable to have to make such a recommendation.

I have a feeling this info has been known in the inner circles for a little while now. Better to resign than get the big BOOT.
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:04 PM
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20. so what about the others Gore recommended resign?
When are they going to resign?
When?
When?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:09 PM
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25. ....patience.
Very very soon if they want to avoid the political guillotine!
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:29 PM
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30. They deserve a very real guillotine.
The traitors in this administration must be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law if America is to ever recover from the destruction that this group has brought us. That should include capital crimes that have been committed and I can think of no more appropriate capital punishment than public guillotining. That would certainly send a message to any prospective power eliteists that The People are in charge.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:15 PM
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29. They might resign...
It seems as though lately, Bush has been flip flopping to do what the Dems say they would do.

He is trying to follow Kerry's plan in Iraq. He wants the Nader supporters to say there is no difference between him and Kerry so that they will stick with Nader.

There is a BIG difference between them. If Kerry hadn't laid out his plan, Bush wouldn't be following it. If it wasn't an election year, Bush would be off, going about his business of being Bush. Now he has decided to be Kerry until after the election.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:34 PM
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32. Maybe they will be charged with high crimes and misdeanors!!!
I hope. I hope. I hope.

:bounce:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:07 PM
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24. Gore "recommended" that Tenet resign in his recent speech
Gore said Tenet was his personal friend, a good person, and that it was regretable to have to make such a recommendation.

I have a feeling this info has been known in the inner circles for a little while now. Better to resign than get the big BOOT.<<

I didn't think anyone took Gore seriously.... I hope this doesn't spread.. wink wink... if it does... I hope it spreads "upward".

Then again... maybe some people are starting to realize where these guys are headed.... over the brink perhaps?? How much is a "fair" amount anyway??

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 02:51 PM
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37. From WillPitt's GD thread via Truthout
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

An ancillary reason, continued McGovern, is the Pat Roberts report coming out of the Senate Intelligence Committee next week. The report excoriates Tenet and the entire intelligence community for the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. You need to remember that Roberts is the archetypal GOP stalwart. The whole name of the game now is to blame the intelligence community and protect the White House.
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