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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:08 PM
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G.I.'s Prison Abuse More Widespread, Says Army Survey
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/26/politics/26ABUS.html?...

WASHINGTON, May 25 An Army summary of deaths and mistreatment involving prisoners in American custody in Iraq and Afghanistan shows a widespread pattern of abuse involving more military units than previously known.

The cases from Iraq date back to April 15, 2003, a few days after Saddam Hussein's statue was toppled in a Baghdad square, and they extend up to last month, when a prisoner detained by Navy commandos died in a suspected case of homicide blamed on "blunt force trauma to the torso and positional asphyxia."

Among previously unknown incidents are the abuse of detainees by Army interrogators from a National Guard unit attached to the Third Infantry Division, who are described in a document obtained by The New York Times to have "forced into asphyxiation numerous detainees in an attempt to obtain information" over a 10-week period last spring.

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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:09 PM
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1. Quick! Look over there! Terror!
I guess this is the story we aren't supposed to be noticing tonight.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:10 PM
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2. Shocked, I tell you, I am SHOCKED! NOT
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:23 PM
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3. I bet the bush cabal are going nuts...
trying to find out who is leaking this flow of material to the press. They can't stop it! The tipping point we all talked about has not only been reached it passed, big time.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:31 PM
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4. this is systemic
not isolated.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:55 PM
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5. I think the CIA is doing the 'leaking'
Between the Plame incident and the attempts to blame the CIA for everything that was not the Clenis's fault......I'll bet they're REALLY PISSED and want to erradicate these American Taliban neo-cons.

They are some REALLY smart people.....NASA is probobly the only gov't group that could compete with them in sheer brainpower

My $$$ is on the CIA winning their own little 'war on terror*'.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:01 PM
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6. Mine, too. They're the ones who've up-ended Chalabi.
And everything THAT means...

You piss off the CIA at your peril. Shows just how completely and colossally stupid bush junior is - that he wouldn't at least have absorbed SOMETHING of that lesson from life with his father.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:08 PM
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7. I Agree about the CIA
But I think it is also the Army people themselves.

They did not want this war, they hate Rumsfeld & Co., & they know it goes all the way to the top.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:26 PM
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8. Perhaps the Army is leaking to CIA aquaintances
in order to get the story out -soooo effectively. Multiple news outlets, great timing. Methinks this is orchestrated.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:41 PM
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9. hmm. but we're not as bad as Saddam Hussein!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 07:22 AM
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10. Oh, so that's why we're banning cameras now.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:34 AM
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11. But, but, but... we're gonna bulldoze Abu Ghraib.
Everything's better now. It's all buried in rubble.

:eyes:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 07:47 AM
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12. This story is quite shocking/depressing
Edited on Thu May-27-04 07:48 AM by gristy

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