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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:39 PM
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Sergeant disciplined for speaking of abuse
Edited on Tue May-25-04 05:41 PM by JoFerret
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=ap/germa...

BERLIN - A U.S. Army sergeant who gave an insider's view of Abu Ghraib prison to the media has lost his security clearance and has been disciplined by the military for speaking out, he told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Sgt. Samuel Provance said that although soldiers he served with in Iraq were treating him as a pariah, he would not change a thing if given a second chance.

"My soldiers who were at Abu Ghraib are so scared now they're not even talking to me anymore I'm like a villain....

"I knew what was being reported was not true."

....
Unlike early reports suggesting the abuses were failings by individual soldiers, Provance told the AP and other media outlets that interrogators at the prison viewed sleep deprivation, stripping inmates naked and threatening them with dogs as normal ways of dealing with "the enemy."

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:45 PM
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1. You'll live with a clear conscience, Sergeant...
That's more than your superiors and that soulless ghoul Rumsfeld can say.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:50 PM
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2. whatchu talkin about...
Rummy hasn't got a conscience, it's hard to have one when you don't have a soul...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:21 PM
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6. OT: but those are cute sockpuppets
:)
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:00 PM
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13. They are in fact Sifl and Olly...
Edited on Tue May-25-04 10:01 PM by Siflnolly
of the sadly canceled "Sifl and Olly Show" fame

http://www.sifl-n-olly.com/
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:17 PM
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3. more of the... the actions weren't the problem... the getting
caught due to people talking were the problem... ban cameras and cellphone cameras!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:19 PM
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4. exactly....the guy puts his life and career on the line to tell the truth
so far he's lost his career... :(
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:20 PM
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5. Atty.Gen. Ashcroft picked documented prisoner abusers to lead Prisons
Edited on Tue May-25-04 07:21 PM by DEMVET-USMC
in Iraq. He picked McCotter and Sullivan himself to head up prison Affairs in Iraq. McCotter was forced to resign as head of Corrections in Utah for prisoner abuse resulting in death. Then he creates his own Private Prison Company wich is strongly critisized in statement by THE JUSTICE DEPT. no less one month prior to Ashcoft choosing him to head up Prison Affairs in Iraq. He chose Abu Ghraib as the best site to imprison people in Iraq and trained many who ended up manning that prison. "The Nation" has a great article it published regarding all this. I`m sorry I don`t know the link. Anyone who does please help out and provide it. ...Oscar
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elizsan Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:46 PM
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7. McCotter
Couldn't find the Nation one, but here's a fairly comprehensive report of this jerk: http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking2/Exporting.ht...
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:16 PM
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9. That is the article published by "The Nation Magazine" ! Great link
Edited on Tue May-25-04 08:17 PM by DEMVET-USMC
provided by " elizsan ". < http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking2/Exporting.ht... >. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH ! ...Oscar
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:34 PM
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11. Thanks for the link and welcome to DU
Stick around, this is an interesting website to be sure. You seem to know what you are doing and I appreciate having you here. ...Oscar
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:06 PM
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8. Astonishing
...the sickness and hypocrisy of this man. He covers naked statues and then.....
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DEMVET-USMC Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:23 PM
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10. AND HE CALL HIMSELF A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN, as does BUSH
These people make me so angry with thier pious selfrighteousness I just spit at thier faces in newspapers and such. It`s an involuntary response. I do have to clean it off to continue reading. ...Oscar
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:00 PM
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12. Balzy guy here. These people who fought the bastards
need to be recognized and recompensed when this is all over.

People like Sgt. Provance give me hope.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 08:13 AM
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14. Kick
:kick:
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