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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:23 PM
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Moore Film Provokes Disney Boycott - Fahrenheit 911
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:27 PM
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1. Michael Eisner can't do anything right
Hopefully, he'll get tossed when they lose their asses from the movie revenues and from the boycott.

Why doesn't the great Eisner go after Jebbie for this property tax extortion scheme?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:46 PM
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9. Eisner will start bending, just a matter of time.
First the dogs, then the clothes and then...Lynnedie England and the dog leash.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:33 PM
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18. yes - isn't it extortion for Jeb to hold tax cuts over Disney's head
this must be illegal
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:27 PM
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2. Like the woman said
its a free country and they can do what they want. But so can we. Too bad Disney, when hundreds of thousands of Liberals boycott your shit and that film makes millions of dollars, you are going to look like fools. hahahahha.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:33 PM
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3. Jeb Bush, brother to the President.
never go against BFEE, is the message here, I guess.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:35 PM
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4. Dreamworks SKG
I'm sure Katzenberg is loving this. Eisner drove Katzenberg out of Disney, but who has the last laugh? Not only is Dreamworks raking in the money from Shrek 2 (the "Disney killer"), but Disney has given up on the massive, guaranteed profits from Moore's film.

Eisner was already on thin ice with the shareholders; he's going to be crucified before the year is through.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:53 PM
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34. Also, SKG are BIGTIME Democrats too. By the way....
Edited on Tue May-25-04 09:54 PM by PROGRESSIVE1
I go out of my way to avoid buying anything Disney in the first place.

Hopefully Eisner will get the boot soon and then Disney can to return to a normal existance.

:kick:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:36 PM
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5. Protest in front of their stores in malls
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:37 PM
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6. Between a political rock and a financial hard place!!
Disney weighs the financial boycott from liberals with the tax breaks offered by Jeb Bush...

Disney spokeswoman Zenia Mucha says its a free country and Disney can chose not to show Moore's film.

Yes, and the power of Jeb Bush, brother to the target of this great movie, ala 'the Disney tax credits for its theme park', certainly must outweigh the financial loss of liberal's boycott.
My question is this:
As popular as this movie was at Cannes, will Florida's Disney Theme Park be the only place of concern? Or Is there a global boycott on the horizon.
Foreigners despise G Bush even more than this divided America.

This shoudl be interesting.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:05 PM
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22. Interesting questions
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:15 PM
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30. Speaking for this foreigner...
I was planning to take my children, their spouses and my 5 grandchildren to Disneyland in the fall but..........no longer. Disney can bite me!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:40 PM
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7. Fundies boycotted Disney because they granted benefits to same-sex couples
The company is not all bad.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:08 PM
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15. mwa ha ha, makes the boycott hurt worse!!!
the fundies have abandoned disney and it's hurting. they've made their own biblically themed animation studios and are perfectly happy without disney now.

and now disney abandons the liberals that were to support them through this?

hahahahaha

die disney, die! crucify eisner! crucify him! hahahahaha!

let's see how fun it is to be abandoned by BOTH right AND left! ah hahahahaha! die! may we destroy at least one media conglomerate before i die! mwa ha ha haha! die! 1 going down in the crosshairs - 5 more to go! mwa ha ha ha ha!
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:45 PM
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8. The REAL reason Disney won't distribute F-9/11
The publicly stated reason for Disney not releasing the movie is because Eisner is afraid he'll lose the tax breaks he gets from the state of Florida (Governor Jeb Bush) regarding the Disney properties their.

But the real concern, which has only been reported by Amy Goodman on her Democracy Now program, is the economic viability of Euro-Disney. Euro-Disney is not doing well and has not done well. In fact, it has done so poorly that in the past Euro-Disney was given a massive helping hand (influx of cash) by the Bush family friends known as the Saudi Royal Family

Wouldn't want to upset a potential bailout by distributing a movie that points a finger at your funders, now would you?

http://thereitis.org/printarticle225.html
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:48 PM
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10. Boycott Disney pettition on Democrats.com
Good for Dem.com
25,343 people have signed the petition so far.




http://democrats.com/elandslide/petition.cfm?campaign=d...
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:54 PM
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11. I signed it.
And will totally boycott everything they do until...

1) F 911 is release widely
2) Michael Eisner is fired

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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:03 PM
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13. Doing is better than signing! Don't betray yourself and your country
Find the Disney products and boycott them and stick to it. I'm sure this is what the Bible means as a path to Heaven and NOT following the hate teachings of Falwell, Robertson, Gramham who spread the word of hate.

Such a little sacrifice for your country!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:10 PM
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27. 25,344, at least
I just signed the petition.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 04:55 PM
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12. Lets call it what it is-- Jeb blackmailed Disney n/t
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:13 PM
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28. Either that, or...
Disney Euro's financial straits and backing by the Saudis is the real issue. I wouldn't trust a word coming out of Eisner's mouth any more than I'd trust a word coming out of Dubya's, Dickie's, Condi's, Rummy's, or Wolfie's mouths.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:04 PM
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14. I won't be taking my family to Disney World or Disney Land or any Disney
Edited on Tue May-25-04 05:04 PM by yellowcanine
movies. Of course I wasn't going to anyway so I guess it doesn't really count.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:15 PM
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29. I love Disney (Walt and Roy, that is)...
And I have a child on the way. And I look forward to bringing my young boy to Disneyland/Disneyworld someday. But *NOT* until Roy Disney wins his battle against Eisner, and Eisner and his cronies are long gone.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:12 PM
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31. We took our children to Disneyland when they were small...
it was wonderful. Once Eisner is out and Fahrenheit 911 has a distributor I will take my family to Disneyland, won't go to Disneyworld as long as Jeb bush is governor.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:10 PM
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16. We should be boycotting Jeb, since Disney doesn't have much choice
If the tax break stuff is true, that would mean much more in losses than the $120+ million could recoup.
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:34 PM
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32. Disney does have a choice...
and how are people supposed to boycott Jeb Bush?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:58 PM
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35. You boycott all things Florida. From orange juice to Orlando.
I refuse to buy anything if I know it came from Florida. I will continue boycotting like that until jebbie is gone. Besides, CALIFORNIA orange juice is FAR better.
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stinkeefresh Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:18 PM
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17. full disclosure- I work for the Mouse
and yes, they are astonishingly socially liberal in regards to thier employees. Personally, I think that not distributing the film is a poor choice, but I am glad that they're not taking the position we have heard so often from so many censors in the last couple years:

"it is inappropriate to air Nightline/Doonesbury/a school kid's poem/etc. at a time when we must all be suppoprting our fearless leader blah blah blah go bush blah blah time of war etc."

By NOT taking that route, and instead leaking that it's about Jeb and tax breaks, Disney has at least helped illustrate how fucked up the BFEE is and how everyone KNOWS that vindictive actions are the likely result.

What they are certainly not saying is "we at Disney support the Bush administration". They've made it clear that it isn't that.

Small consolation.
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 06:29 PM
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21. Good point-Disney should reiterate the statement with emphasis
on the BFEE.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:41 PM
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26. Me too-going on 15 years now
most of the people on the creative end of things in this company are liberal. Eisner and his cronies, though, are a breed apart. His instincts for the past several years have all been horribly wrong-he seems to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at every turn. Who pays the price? The creative people and hourly workers, of course-and those are the people who will suffer from this boycott. Go to Roy Disney's site: www.savedisney.com to learn more about the effort to unseat Eisner.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:53 PM
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19. I just signed the boycott petition.
I have to say when I see pictures of Michael Moore I practically get teary-eyed over how much he has done to bring our voice back. He was there with Stupid White Men before Howard Dean, before Crossfire, before the lefty websites really got started.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 05:53 PM
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20. List of Disney stuff to boycott
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:23 PM
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23. Won't work
Edited on Tue May-25-04 07:36 PM by Piperay
when the kids are demanding (waaa waaa) to go to Disneyland parents will take them no matter what. :shrug:
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:31 PM
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24. Disney is out of the picture now
Honestly, I don't think boycotting Disney is really appropriate at this point. Eisner told Harvey Weinstien over a year ago that Disney wouldn't distribute it, but Weinstien provided $6 million of Miramax's money (which is ultimately Disney's money) for F 9/11 to get completed as quickly as possible. Harvey said he thought he could change Eisners mind. Well, he didn't and Eisner let Weinstien buy the distribution rights back from Disney with $6 million of his own money. Now Harvey's free to strike a distribution deal with anyone he wants (who knows, maybe Dreamworks).

If Eisner REALLY wanted to screw them over, he could have held out for the whole thing to go through arbitration, which would have taken months and F 9/11 might not have been released in the US until after the election, or too late to make a difference.

With F 9/11 winning the Palme D'Or at Cannes, distributors will be lined up to make a deal. There's no reason it can't be released the July 4th weekend, as originally planned.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 07:34 PM
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25. No, Disney's NOT out of the picture. The latest:
From the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/25/movies/25MOOR.html

LOS ANGELES, May 24 Tense relations between Disney and Miramax are complicating a deal to find a distributor for Michael Moore's anti-Bush documentary movie "Fahrenheit 9/11," which is still without American representation two days after winning the Palme d'Or at the Cannes International Film Festival.

more...
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:48 PM
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33. We all need to call. Calimary where are you?
Edited on Tue May-25-04 09:50 PM by anarchy1999
Ring the phones off the wall!!!!!!!!!

on edit: There will be no buying of any Disney product in my home nor will I support them in any way. Disney is going down, see ya mikey.
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