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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:44 AM
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Sharpton: Impeach Bush if He Lied!
http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/7/9...

Rev. Al Sharpton became the first Democratic Party presidential candidate to call for President Bush's impeachment on Wednesday, saying that if Bush "knowingly lied" about Iraq's nuclear weapons program he "absolutely should be impeached."

"If they knowingly told information that was not true, there certainly should impeachment hearings," Sharpton told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

The outspoken Democrat continued, "If had knowledge, or the vice president had knowledge, and knowingly brought America to war on false or flawed knowledge and they knew it, they absolutely should be impeached."

...more...

(this is the first time I have ever posted a NewMax link - and it felt icky :( )
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:10 PM
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1. Like you need to take a shower or something?....
Thanks for the post!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:13 PM
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2. in RidX
:)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:25 PM
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3. Big Al...telling it like it is.
He is so right. He's not a "nut." He's just telling it like it is. Too bad, most Murakins can't handle the truth.
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the_sam Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:27 PM
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4. I like Sharpton
Too bad he's unelectable.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 11:36 PM
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5. I like him too
and I can't necessarily agree that he is 'unelectable'. This man is working hard for us! I respect him!

I'd even consider voting for him after DK!

:dem:

GO AL!!! WE NEED YOU AND YOUR VOICE!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:50 AM
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32. I like what he is saying here
and what he says elsewhere. However - that Tawana Brawley case still gives me pause for thought BIG TIME. Innocent people's lives were ruined over that nonsense. It was more than a mistake in judgement - it was a colossal error and very hard to justify any which way you look at it.
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NickDanger Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:50 AM
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16. Are you sure he's unelectable?
Along with the regular Democratic vote, he'd nail the black vote in the southern states--which in many of them makes up roughly 50% of the vote. Sharpton might actually be the most electable Dem out there. And he'd really shake the establishment.
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study_war_no_more Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:58 AM
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18. He carries more and more weight
Although I seen the way he looks at condolezzas bootie (warning Al-watch that little jezable)he is becoming more and more a weight to be reckoned with can't wait for his reaction to Bushes slavery bad speech. He has blown off the african american vote in favor of trading beads in africa and he aint fooling no one in the hood.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:46 AM
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40. Yes, he would and I'd love to see it
but I shudder to think how he would handle any negotiations requiring delicacy and tact. He would surely be better than Bush*, who cannot put together a declarative sentence. Sharpton's motives might be pure, but he lacks the empathy and finesse of a Clinton. :shrug:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 03:48 AM
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41. you can't be serious
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 05:53 AM
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42. I agree. I can't see Sharpton as a serious candidate
but I can see no one, yet, as a serious contender to Bush*. It scares me. We have to come up with someone who can win. I thought Gephardt stood a good chance, as he is a veteran Democrat, but he missed out on an essential vote, the other day, and he is in big trouble. These are truly scary times if I would vote Gephardt, Sharpton or my local dog catcher if I felt he could defeat Bush*! :shrug:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 10:53 PM
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44. Bush can easily be beaten in a legitimate election
If it is a fraudulent election as it was in 2000 and 2002 then he can't be beaten.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-03 01:41 AM
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45. That's an excellent point that surely won't be lost on
anyone on this board. Bush* was never elected, but ``selected,'' in 2000.

However, the majority of Americans, who get their news from network or cable television, believe what they're told. They believe that we ``won'' this war with Iraq, that it was accomplished with little loss of life and that Saddam's WMDs, poised to strike the U.S. at any moment, were actually found. That's what we're up against and why we really need to get the word out. Kucinich, Kerry and Sharpton have been speaking out. All of them need to, and that includes Lieberman. He supported Bush*s war, and, therefore, led those who were asking where these elusive weapons are. I heard him speak Wednesday and he did not even mention it. Just this week, the Republican-led Senate rejected a proposal for an independent, bipartisan commission to investigate the claims Bush* used to justify his illegal and bloody war. I have e-mailed my Democratic senators more times than I can count, asking them to call for an investigation. I, for one, am discouraged. :-(
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 04:40 AM
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39. I like him OK
but he really pissed me off When he shut down I-70 during moring rush hour in 1999. There are better ways to garner support for a worthy cause than pissing off 1/3 of a city.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:00 AM
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6. I've got to give the guy credit, he's not afraid to tell it it like it is
That's the reason I think he's unelectable. Nobody wants to hear the truth, these days, and they tend to turn away from anybody who's attempting to. It's much easier to dismiss Sharpton's words by calling him a ``nut.'' :crazy:

I can understand the reason you feel ``icky,'' but don't. This is a must-read article, whatever the source. They're disseminating this so people will write Sharpton off as a head case. Wouldn't it be nice if it had the opposite effect? :-)
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:21 AM
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8. Telling people the truth is a dangerous business...
To get it to stick you have to do it in a way that doesn't clash too harshly with their previously accepted reality. If you don't do it carefully, they tend to reject it (and you) out of hand, even becoming violent when they feel threatened.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:17 AM
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14. That's what I meant when I said no one takes Sharpton seriously
I'm sure that they had him on that show in an attempt to prove how ridiculous his allegations were. The fact is that others are saying the same thing, but if they were someone that the American public might take seriously and believe, there's no way they would ever make it on to FOX News. Or any other cable news outlet, for that matter. :-(
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study_war_no_more Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:03 AM
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19. Soylent green is people!!!
Do we need another Sept 11th wake up call?
America represents six percent of the worlds population and consumes over fifty percent of the worlds resources.
We can arm ourselves and label the rest of the world illiterate heathen savages and jealous of our freedoms or we can recognise how blessed we are through no virtue of our own and reach out with all we got to heal this wonderful blue marble we all equally spin on. Holding on is what we have to learn.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:04 PM
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33. One important difference between a progressive and a neocon
Is brought up with the latter part of your post.

While Oil and Gold resources might be zero sum games, the creation of wealth is not.

Neocons seem to believe that only the things you possess from others can bring you wealth. But the truth is that moderate wealth spread among a large, dominant middle class created the flowering of America in the mid 20th century. Greed chokes the economy while it poisons the society. The NeoCons whine about sexual permissiveness, but are quite mute about naked greed.

NeoCons want to go back to the gilded age of extreme stratified society.
Them Libruls want to take post WWII America to the next level, and create a livable world for everyone else...


That was what the New Frontier and the Great Society was about. It was derailed, if you remember, by the military industrial complex, as Ike warned us it might. Even Moderates like Eisenhower saw that clearly in the 50's.

Ike would piss on Dubya's shoes, if he were alive today.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:19 AM
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7. Tell 'em like it is Al!
I like Al :)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:26 AM
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:33 AM
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10. You are probably doomed, child
Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 12:40 AM by DemoTex
We are not. However, we respect political savy and intellect where we see it and we see it in AL SHARPTON (Bold=high level of respect and admiration), among many others. Savy?

If not: Get off my sand dune!

On edit: Since you "vote Republican" JohnnyVegas, I punched the "alert" button on you. I cannot wait to see what the new tombstone looks like.

Buh-bye, asshole!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:02 AM
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NickDanger Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:54 AM
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17. Kicking out conservatives makes us as bad as Free Republic.
I welcome opposing viewpoints as long as they are respectfully presented. If my ideas can't prevail in the marketplace of ideas, then I need to change them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:05 AM
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:59 AM
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22. Kicking out conservatives is what has me pay money to this site
the day they stop is the day my money stops. This is about peace of mind with fellow Democrats and progressives not debating ad nauseum the RW tripe that has gotten us into this mess. Is one little refuge from their drivel too much to ask? If you went to debate them on FR you'd get kicked out!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 07:21 PM
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35. Excellent point! n/t
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-03 09:40 PM
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43. LOL!
Everyone's got to have a hobby, right?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 04:47 AM
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26. I'm sorry I missed this
I seem to miss everything! I have no doubt that Al Sharpton brings out strong feelings in people, since he expresses strong feelings, himself. This is not the current American way. We ignore ``the elephant in the living room'' and just pretend everything is just fine. Those who dare to point out that there's something really wrong going on are marginalized or looked on as slightly off-of-center. I have not always agreed with Sharpton, but, in this, he is right on and I admire him for speaking out. He will not be rewarded for it. :-(
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:12 AM
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23. No tombstone.
The person just disappears. No more profile.
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:56 AM
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11. We need this kind of courage
to get the Democratic party on the right path again.
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 01:19 AM
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15. im gaining respect for Sharpton
He is pretty bright while debating. I like him quite a bit more than Jesse Jackson, he doesnt wax poetic, and beat around the bush.....he goes right for the jugular.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:05 AM
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20. Yes I agree.
I used to hate him but, no more. His honesty and Bush Bashing are truly admirable.
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Simeon Salus Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:57 AM
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29. I agree he's making strong vocal arguments
Perhaps because he's less nervous about worrying any conservative constituency, he's been able to come up with all the campaign's best one liners.

Sharpton's pretty agile in public, based on recent appearances. I was particularly impressed with his appearance on Face the Nation last week. I considered for a moment volunteering for his campaign for a month, to see how I felt about it.

Sharpton's an incendiary. He shakes big trees. He's no Jesse Jackson, and Jesse is no Martin Luther King Jr.

That being said, Rev. A has a strong voice, and he's heating up the campaign rhetoric.

Why is it no one talks about the Bob Schieffer interview on Monday morning? I always think it's the best one I see every Sunday. I like that he always has one other journalist to provoke clash.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 03:57 AM
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24. Here's the legal
rationale for Impeachment:

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/howtoimpeach.html

pass it around, it's DU FRESH!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 06:58 AM
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27. Thanks Symbolman, I'm Passin It Along !!!
:bounce: :kick: :bounce:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 04:18 AM
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25. I love Al Sharpton
And I just gave some money to his campaign. The smart SOB has Paypal contributions. Say what you like about Paypal, that's somebody who knows the old credit card might just be maxed and you might just need another way to give online. Good for him!!!
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:47 AM
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31. hey .. thanks for the info. re: paypal contributions!!
I'll send him a few $! I like him too! :)

Other candiates should think of this!!!

:kick:
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 07:02 AM
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28. Damn straight, Al
Always telling it just like it is, without dancing around the edges.
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MostlyBlackCat2 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:38 AM
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30. kick! n/t
:kick:
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:14 PM
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34. Democrats are going to be forced
to act like Democrats as long as someone like Sharpton shows more courage with truth telling. His style is going to help democrats get more african americans, women, gays, and lesbians registered and out voting. So many people are jaded now and don't believe the system works. Powerful speaking helps transform minds.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 07:26 PM
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36. Resign or be impeached!
This is what is being said on the other side of the Atlantic:

Yesterday, in another damaging broadside, Richard Butler, who was executive chairman of the United Nations Special Commission to Iraq from 1997 to 1999, said that anyone who had claimed that there was a link between Niger and Iraq should resign.

Referring to Australian politicians who had made similar claims, only to withdraw them and apologise later, Butler said: 'In the justification for the war, these claims were false and known to be false.

'A Minister who misleads Parliament must accept responsibility for it and resign. Ministers must be held responsible, not public servants.'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,69...
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 04:09 AM
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38. This is an excellent point
I believe that those on this side of the Atlantic should heed this call, especially George W. Bush*. But it's not going to happen. They will continue to treat us to ``spin.'' They lied, we know it. I really hope it's just a matter of time. :shrug:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 07:30 PM
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37. Nah DUrs, you got to arrest these psychotics long before you impeach!!!
I'm proud of ya Sharpton!!!

Very well said and to the point.
Now let us put it into action!!!!

:bounce:
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