White House Asks Media to 'Show Respect' to Bush Twins

[Eye and Monkey]

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-campaign-bush-daughters.html

Filed at 3:43 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House asked the media on Monday to ``show respect'' for President Bush's twin daughters as they emerge from private life as students to work for their father's re-election campaign.

There has sometimes been tension between Bush and the media over coverage of his daughters, Jenna and Barbara, especially when both of them had run-ins with the law over alcohol three years ago.

In an incident in Austin, Texas, in 2001, Barbara was sentenced to perform community service and attend an alcohol awareness class, while Jenna, who had been found with a false ID, was fine $600 and lost her driver's license for 30 days.

(The twins) will do an interview and photo spread for Vogue magazine and then work at Bush's campaign headquarters in the Washington suburbs.

MORE - not much

[CO Liberal]

1. I'm Surprised

I expected the twins to show up in a "Girls Gone Wild" video.

:-)

[saigon68]

19. A COUPLE OF TRASHY DRUNKS

SO WHAT'S UP THERE?

[arwalden]

31. Drunk Floozies Legs Wide Open... I Saw The Photos

No class at all.

[crossroads]

49. They're off the chain!

Wonder which one screws up first? Hoping they embarrass those phony Bush "family values"... I'm so bad... hehe
:shrug:

[gatlingforme]

81. Yes, Girls Gone Wild video is perfect for the Bush Drunks

We should respect them PLEASE!!!!!!

[Stuckinthebush]

2. Wait a minute...

I was the first to say, "hands off!" when they were private citizens, but they are actively working on Daddy's campaign now. I'm sure he will trot them out when necessary. Are they untouchable now?

Good question.

[izzie]

13. As always Bush wants it his way. They should be treated as any worker now.

Or so I think.

[Just Me]

22. They get the same respect the Bushie's have given: N-O-N-E! n/t

[murielm99]

42. No, they are not untouchable now.

I said the same thing when they were college students, with private lives. But now, they are over 21, and performing in a public capacity.

I say they are fair game.

[lowreed]

46. If not fair game at least gamey :)

[Birthmark]

45. Yup.

I was there to say "off limits" as well, but if they are going on the campaign trail to say what a great dad they have, then it's fair to ask why they were getting drunk and arrested. The moment they step in front of a microphone they are fair game.

[joeunderdog]

62. We'll treat them with the same red carpet afforded Hillary.

They are choosing to be factors in this race, not us. But it cuts both ways.

If they want to stay out of the fray, I say let them be. Wanna work for Dad?--welcome aboard.

[calimary]

70. You bet. If they're coming out from hiding, they've "graduated" from

college, and they're of adult age, then all's fair. Certain elements in the media were MOST unkind to Chelsea ("White House dog," anyone?) and I'm sure it was really miserable for her. These little dilletantes have been coddled and covered for, and they don't have HALF the brainpower, commitment or work ethic that she does. If they choose to stick their heads up out of the foxhole, then all bets are off.

Although... I must admit if they're trashed too much, that MAY build some sympathy for their parents, specifically their dad (and watch him hide behind their skirts like the brave-heart he is), then I'd be against it. I don't want ANYTHING to build sympathy for this schmuck. NOT ANYTHING!!!!!

[Lindacooks]

74. Exactly.

And we'll treat them the same way Repukes treated Chelsea. Turnabout is fair play.

[redqueen]

3. Just like they respected Chelsea

Fair is fair, after all.

[Judi Lynn]

10. Truly. My thoughts, as well.

Why don't they ask Rush Limbaugh for his educated opinion on the matter of just how much liberty people in public life should take with the President's daughters?

Maybe they might try to recollect the kinds of things which were said about Amy Carter, as well.

Republicans have so much to be proud of.

[caledesi]

15. Yeah, just like they showed such respect for Chelsea beginning

by the OxyRush calling her the "White House Dog"...digusting.

I do believe president's kids should be off limits, but if the kids are producing fake IDs and getting drunk as hell...well

You just KNOW that if Chelsea pulled this shit, it would be all over the news 24/7, so I don't particularly like being "barked" at and told the twins are off limits. That's what I really object to.

[UpInArms]

12. how about this lovely piece by John Derbyshire?

http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml

excerpt:

Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past — I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble — recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an "enemy of the people". The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, "clan liability". In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished "to the ninth degree": that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great- great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great- great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender's home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet — "let God sort 'em out".)

We don't, of course, institutionalize such principles in our society, and a good thing too. Our humanity and forbearance, however, has a cost. The cost is, that the vile genetic inheritance of Bill and Hillary Clinton may live on to plague us in the future. It isn't over, folks. Dr. Nancy Snyderman, a "friend of the family" (how much money did she give them?) is quoted as saying that Chelsea shows every sign of following her parents into politics. "She's been bred for it," avers Dr. Snyderman. Be afraid: be very afraid.

Such respect!

[salin]

20. Wow is that a nasty (uncalled for) Rant.

[JoFerret]

28. Mind you...switch the names to Bushies

....and it seems fairly rational. Or at least understandable even if in poor taste.

[Just Me]

30. Derbyshire is probably Weyrich the neo-Nazi's best friend.

Seriously, the folks at "National Review" are pretty freakin' weird.

[crossroads]

50. I say this 'respect' should be mirrored back to the twins!!!

:kick:

[daleo]

68. Even by the low gutter standards of right wing ranters

This is contemptible.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

69. My suggestion for a chain e-mail

Spam them to death! Begin e-mail:

Look at this outrageous POS some scumbag blogger posted about the Bush twins:

Jenna and Barbara are Bushes. They bear the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past — I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble — recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an "enemy of the people". The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, "clan liability". In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished "to the ninth degree": that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great- great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great- great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender's home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet — "let God sort 'em out".)

We don't, of course, institutionalize such principles in our society, and a good thing too. Our humanity and forbearance, however, has a cost. The cost is, that the vile genetic inheritance of George and Laura Bush may live on to plague us in the future. It isn't over, folks. Karl Rove is quoted as saying that both twins show every sign of following their parents into politics. "They've been bred for it," avers Mr. Rove. Be afraid: be very afraid.

Fuming yet? Wait, the best is yet to come...


















The above quote was not about the Bushes, but rather about the Clintons. I just altered some names to ascertain just how righteous you Republicans really are. To date, I know of no such vicious attack on W's daughters. Here is the TRUE quote, which is by John Derbyshire of National Review and can be found at http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml :

Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past — I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble — recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an "enemy of the people". The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, "clan liability". In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished "to the ninth degree": that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great- great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great- great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender's home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet — "let God sort 'em out".)

We don't, of course, institutionalize such principles in our society, and a good thing too. Our humanity and forbearance, however, has a cost. The cost is, that the vile genetic inheritance of Bill and Hillary Clinton may live on to plague us in the future. It isn't over, folks. Dr. Nancy Snyderman, a "friend of the family" (how much money did she give them?) is quoted as saying that Chelsea shows every sign of following her parents into politics. "She's been bred for it," avers Dr. Snyderman. Be afraid: be very afraid.

And don't get me started on Rush Limbaugh and "White House dog".

End e-mail.

[calimary]

72. Oh yeah, I remember this bastard.

Thought he was so funny, so painfully, excruciatingly witty, he did. He refused to apologize despite a storm of protests and objections and complaints that the National Review Online got for this. What a schmuck! How would he like it if some nut called for HIS son or daughter to be killed for the sake of stopping his blood line? HORRIBLE excuse for a human being here. He should sizzle and spit on the Devil's own rotisserie.

[umtalal]

66. Yes, the bastards have forgotten about Chelsea n/t

[Loonman]

4. Photo spread for Vogue?

I admit Barb is kinda cute, but really.......

[Trajan]

5. IF Bush sends them out to do political work ...

Then they are fair game in the media ...

"R E S P E C T" .... Let's see some for a change, eh Georgie ???

I say: Let the twins prepare for their life's work, which shouldnt have anything to do with politics ...

[tom_paine]

6. Or else you'll get an envelope of anthrax like the last guys!

My guess is that the "liberal media" will listen as they always do to their Imperial Master.

They whys no longer matter. No more excuses from our pathetically craven and cowardly excuses for journalists.

The only thing that matters in the disgraceful shape of the Formely Free American Press of the Old Republic.

[gulfcoastliberal]

29. I was Going to Say

the National Enquirer lost their shiny new Florida HQ after daring to publish a bit of the Bush twins' antics. Funny coincidence huh? That CIA anthrax is some nasty stuff.

[Coventina]

7. Hey! Rove said Wilson's wife was "fair game"

Fuck them and their double standards.

[TahitiNut]

48. "Fuck them"?? No thanks.

As a fraternity brother once said to me, "I wouldn't fuck 'em even with your dick."

If I kicked 'em out of bed I'd have to wash the carpet, too. :puke:

[phantom power]

8. I wish some prominent Dem would go on record

with a statement like "of course we fully intend to respect the Bush daughters, even though the previous president's daughter did not receive such fair treatment from republicans".

Byrd would be a good candidate.

[caledesi]

21. Oh e j e, I like that! Byrd is perfect. nt

[Just Me]

36. Very, true. NWS his evolution, boy o', have they taken his past,...

,...and ripped him apart (probably because he didn't stay stagnant and stinky like the rest of the good ole' boys). And THAT really pisses me off because the man CHANGED, he GREW and became an advocate for humanity!!!

Whereas, his "persecutors" continue to demonstrate common human evil,...and project the evil,...indiscriminately. Ooooooo,...the crucifiers MUST GO!!!

[crossroads]

52. Yeah, and it needs to be a woman!

It would look crass if a man did it! Nancy, this looks like a job for you! Notice Karen Hughes bites/bitches about Dems, and a man can't attack her back (for obvious reasons!) Kerry needs a good female attack dog!!!
:kick:

[goclark]

55. Carol Mosley Braun

She is very feminine but can get her thoughts across in such a smooth way. Since she was in the campaign,she could come from that prospective.
She can be a real tough cookie!

Oh my, I forgot about ANN RICHARDS, she could throw some Texas talk around and let them really have it!

[crossroads]

71. I agree, great choices!

I forgot about her! Ann richard doesn't hold her tongue and I am sure would love that job!!! LOL...
:thumbsup:

[rocktivity]

9. They're over 21 and college grads--they're street legal now

They're old enough to take care of themselves. And if they don't screw up, they have nothing to fear, right? If they hadn't brazenly sauntered into public drinking places with fake IDs and taxpayer-supported Secret Service agents in tow instead of doing their underage drinking in private like the rest of us, they would have been "respected" then.

:headbang:
rocknation

[DinahMoeHum]

11. . . .and they're on the campaign trail for their dad.

They're legally adults by any standard. They're fair game, like the rest of us.


:kick:

[tandot]

14. If they work on his campaign... they are fair game

Sorry, but if you throw yourself into public to promote your incompetent father you'll have to deal with the consequences.

[DrDan]

16. remember this? -

"On his TV show, early in the Clinton administration, Limbaugh put up a picture of Socks, the White House cat, and asked, "Did you know there's a White House dog?" Then he put up a picture of Chelsea Clinton, who was 13 years old at the time and as far as I know had never done any harm to anyone."

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/1995/05/ivins.html

I'd say that makes them fair game

[TheWizardOfMudd]

17. Limbaugh called Chelsea a "dog"

I didn't hear Bush, or any republicans for that matter, publicly call for Limbaugh to show some respect to Bill & Hillary's daughter.

So just go fuck yourself George and your two slut alcoholic daughters, too.

[July]

82. And McCain, too. n.t

[caledesi]

Did they respect Vanessa Kerry while she was at Cannes?

Big resounding NO! Had to criticize her clothing etc. Make these people stop!

[MaineDem]

34. I think it was Alexandra

But your point is valid, regardless.

[cally]

18. They are using their celebrity for a photo spread

and working on their father's campaign. I always thought they deserved a private life, but I think the photo spread makes them fair game.

[Stephanie]

25. FAIR GAME

BushCO has no such scruples about OTHER people's wives and daughters, WE have no obligation to cover-up for George and Laura's bad parenting.

Repeat after me, quoting Rove:

FAIR GAME

[lancdem]

23. Then why are they doing an interview/photo spread

with Vogue? If you seek publicity, you can't have it both ways.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. If they can't stand the heat, STAY OUTTA THE FUCKING KITCHEN!

[damnraddem]

26. Why? What have they ever done to earn respect?

They shouldn't be dissed simply because they're Dubya's daughters -- but they have earned a bit of disrespect based all on their own efforts.

[dweller]

27. ummmokay...sure thing

when they start showing a little SELF RESPECT maybe i will.

:eyes:
dp

[NashVegas]

32. Can't Wait to See Their Vogue Shoot

that's coming up this summer.

Sorry, George, I have a hard time respecting people who chase celebrity-hood with no visible talents.

[Eye and Monkey]

33. "who chase celebrity-hood" - will the Twins be wearing hoods?

[Berserker]

38. Why don't they

sign up for daddys war? They keep saying We need more troops here are two that come from a good warrior blood line. Id love to see them on the front lines!

[Eye and Monkey]

41. I'd like to be the Vogue photographer- "Here, slip this over your head -"

"Really, girls, it'll be a real gas!"

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

80. Can't wait to see their Playboy spread

On second thought...

[henslee]

35. = "if you get to 2nd base on 1st date its under the blouse, over the bra."

bwahhhhhh!!!!!!

[Disturbed]

37. Logic

Anyone who puts themselves in the public limelight is fair game. In this case it would behoove the Dems to steer clear.
Maligning them will only help Bushco because it will make the attacker seem mean spirited and garner sympathy for them. Seems that the WH spin Doc is inviting attacks to help the Bushco scampain.

Ignoring them would be the best approach.

[crossroads]

54. Valid point!

Methinks they rather enjoy the attention, so ignoring them could be the best thing to do. If Kerry had a female attack dog (like Hughes), it might be ok to criticize the twins!
:kick:

[boobooday]

39. Pay no attention to the tramps!

No matter how drunk they get!

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[Malva Zebrina]

40. I do not honor anything this village idiot asks

He is the same guy that has used every dirty trick in the book and ,more to destroy the lives of many innocent people and Valerie Plame is the one that stands out the most in my mind, since this is a felony that has yet to be investigated after all this time. Now--he wants people to not trespass upon his sweet dumb daughters? They are working to have their fascist father elected. They are supporting the fascism of their stupid father. They could have refused and gone off to Europe on vacation--there they are and as such are fair game.

[Nlighten1]

43. "Show respect" or get an anthrax laced letter!

[Ilsa]

44. I vote they are "fair game" now as well. n/t

[leetrisck]

47. Agree, but george & laura are pimping

their daughters - what a disgrace!

[Name removed]

51. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Sandpiper]

53. Sorry Georgie, hands off is fine if they're trying to be private citizens

But now that they are voluntarily becoming public figures, the kid gloves are coming off.

[hyphenate]

56. Sorry, no letup from my end

:nopity: :beer: :evilgrin:

[stickdog]

57. Does this mean we can't mention their nicknames?

Skanky and Scaly?

[goclark]

58. No R E S P E C T

I don't and won't have any respect for those vulgar twins. They have no respect for their own parents and their parents are constantly bailing them out of trouble.

They also have shown NO respect for our country. Representing us in Europe with jeans and tee shirts. If Chelsea had done that they would have been mean.

I am sick of Rethugs telling me how to behave. I am well aware of how to behave,they need to stroll down their own memory land.
The nerve of them.

[PatGund]

59. In a word....

...no. Show them the same level of respect that the media showed (and continue to show), Chelsea Clinton. Which is to say, none.

And, now that they're out of school and working on their sire's reselection campaign, they're as fair game as any other person working on that campaign.

[drb]

60. What we really need is a Photoshop contest - ala Fark!

Difficulty: The Bush twins and the Games at Abu Gahrib!

[0007]

61. cough cough - gotta be kidding me!

[FlemingsGhost]

63. Barbara and Jenna who?

I refuse to give "celebrity" status to the Bush twins. Nope. Ignoring them, like I do their dad is my plan. If I wanted to debate the philosophical and cultural "significance" of a starved-for-attention, wealthy, drunken, slutty brat, I'd discuss Paris Hilton.

[Lou_C]

64. I will give them the same respect as Chelsea received..They are Dogs

I meant Drunks.

[Retrograde]

65. Respect must be earned

They're adults. They can be either private citizens, or active participants in their progenitor's campaign. If they choose the latter course, they become public figures IMHO: what treatment they receive should depend on how they act.

I would have liked someone to send me to Europe after my college graduation, and get me a job (unless the two are working on the campaign for free - nice not to have to worry about putting food on their families :)

linda

[Pachamama]

67. They are 21 & their Father is a War Criminal-I'll "respect" them when they

...speak out against their father for the criminal he is...

Since its pretty obvious that they "inherited" Dad's intellect, I highly doubt we'll ever see that, so I say it's open season on the girls....Sorry, but look what they have done to Chelsea Clinton & recently Alexandra Kerry...

Besides, the "Bobsey Twins" have done their own Poor PR with their behaviour - if they do things that are questionable, they should be questioned...

[Imperialism Inc.]

73. So I guess calling them drunken skanky whores is out then?

So sad. Another blow to truth in media.

[thebaghwan]

75. Hey! These bitches are fair game if they are working for Dad's reelection

n/t

[pacifictiger]

76. can't have it both ways daddy

either you're in politics, or you're not.
Once they begin actively participating with the election team, they become fair game.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

77. They deserve just as much respect as Chelsea got.

[Vogon_Glory]

78. Bushies Would Have Us Do As They Say, Not As They did

So the Bush Leaguers would have us treat the Bush daughters with respect? Asking for such a courtesy would command more respect if the Bushies hadn't given their silent assent to the torrents of abuse heaped on Chelsea Clinton.

[BiggJawn]

79. They're 21-y-o floozies..They need to show ME "respect"...

"respect"....Yeah, just like what Chelsea got, right?

Fuck You, Scotty McClellan...

[Wickerman]

83. While he shows no respect to our sons and daughters

by putting them in harm's way in his unjust and immoral war, he may not ask for me to respect the privacy of his two adult daughters.

Fuck him and fuck them.

[Kikosexy2]

85. in the words of ...

Karl Rove--they are "fair game"! Go ahead let's trash the slutty Barbie Twins! You think the Repubes are not gonna trash Kerry's kids?? Bash The Bimbo Bushies--full steam ahead!!!

[OKNancy]

84. It's threads like this that make me want to leave DU

I won't, but some of you should be ashamed.