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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:43 PM
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US guards filmed beatings at terror camp
Edited on Sat May-15-04 10:45 PM by JoFerret
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,69...

Dozens of videotapes of American guards allegedly engaged in brutal attacks on Guantanamo Bay detainees have been stored and catalogued at the camp, an investigation by The Observer has revealed.
The disclosures, made in an interview with Tarek Dergoul, the fifth British prisoner freed last March, who has been too traumatised to speak until now, prompted demands last night by senior politicians on both sides of the Atlantic to make the videos available immediately.

They say that if the contents are as shocking as Dergoul claims, they will provide final proof that brutality against detainees has become an institutionalised feature of America's war on terror.

In the wake of the furore over the abuses photographed at Abu Ghraib jail in Iraq, US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has continued to insist they were the work of a few rogue soldiers, and not a systemic problem.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:53 PM
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1. I Can Hear The Republicans Singing Now, "On The Good Ship Lollipop"
eom
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:13 AM
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9. The ship is sinking...
:kick:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 10:54 PM
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2. The plot
sickens. :mad:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:02 PM
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3. But according to Rummie
they only have 'terrorists' at Gitmo, so it's okay to do whatever they want to them. Not.

Just more proof of what a great job Rummie is doing.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:24 PM
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4. It's unravelling
.
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CheshireCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:47 PM
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5. audio tapes were the final nail in Nixon's coffin
Will video tape help to bring down the Bush Misadministration?

We can certainly hope!
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:11 AM
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7. It has to be pictures that will wake the sleeping because
they won't hear, can't hear, or don't read the words. They mostly listen to Rush and faux for their news... :eyes:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:07 AM
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6. why would they video tape the beatings?
and catalogued and stored? It seems funny to do this if they thought they were doing something wrong. It would make sense if they were ordered to do this and then taped them for proof to their superiors. But then, why didn't anyone order them to destroy these tapes when all this broke? That air feels bad and all my nerves and senses are straining to make sense of things.

Today at the local tank n' tummy we heard a lady who was filling up her big lincoln continental complaining about the price of gas. My husband and I just laughed at her as we walked out.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:12 AM
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8. Gone
Don't be surprised if these Videos no longer exist.

The Govt. and Congress do not want anymore evidence surfacing of system wide torture. The colonization of Iraq and other ME countries is on the agenda of both Repubs and Dems.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:31 AM
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10. More bad apples and frat pranks...
Nothing to see here folks...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:52 AM
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11. We will arguments that these can't be released
Because it would violate the prisoner's Geneva Convention rights (even though Rummy et al specifically said they have no Geneva Convention rights).
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 03:27 AM
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12. Remember..
the Nazis in WWII were very meticulous in keeping records and movies of their atrocities. Seems to go with the territory.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:16 AM
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13. The British detainees
are beginning todetail their capture and detention in detail.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 10:00 AM
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14. duplicate
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