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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:49 PM
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Iraqi Says He Is Prisoner in Photo
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/cgi/NGoto/58865676?-1377

Posted on Sat, May. 15, 2004

Iraqi Says He Is Prisoner in Photo

SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI

Associated Press



BAGHDAD, Iraq - Saddam Saleh says his U.S. torturers told him he was one of the hooded Iraqi prisoners shown in a picture standing in a row as a grinning female soldier pointed at their genitals. "This is your picture," one of the guards taunted him, displaying the now infamous photo. "You are the fattest one here and that must be you."

Saleh, 29, says he plans to attend Wednesday's court-martial of Army Spc. Jeremy Sivits - the first soldier to stand trial in the alleged abuse of Iraqi inmates at Abu Ghraib prison.

Saleh, who was released March 28 after four months in Abu Ghraib, is the second Iraqi to come forward and identify himself in one of the photographs that triggered international outrage at the U.S. treatment of captives. The first was Haidar Sabbar Abed, who believes he was in a couple of the pictures.

Saleh, who speaks some English, said he remembered the names of his tormentors and plans to file lawsuits against them. The Army has already charged two of them, Cpl. Charles A. Graner and Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick II.

Besides Graner and Frederick, Saleh recalls others only by partial names or nicknames: a sergeant named Schneider, another named Pearl, and "Nicolai" - one of the intelligence officers who he says directed the torture in Cellblock I/A, where he spent all but one month of his time in Abu Ghraib.

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:53 PM
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1. hope the Iraqi's sue the pants off the army
that would be a good use of my tax $$ IMO
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:54 PM
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2. I hope that he gets justice
I don't know what the odds are.



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:06 PM
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4. Very appropriate 'toon, boobooday. Good one. n/t
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:58 PM
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3. "Nicolai"
That almost sounds Russian.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:11 PM
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5. Didn't someone say they heard Russian in the Berg video?
Edited on Sat May-15-04 04:11 PM by thecrow
I'm sure someone said they heard Russin spoken by one of the kiilers in the Berg video...?
Nicolai?? perhaps??? :wtf:
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:38 PM
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6. This statement says it all....
"I was tortured under Saddam, but the torture was much more preferable to this because they didn't strip off my clothes and make me naked," he said, pointing to scars on his neck.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:26 PM
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7. And also this:
"I would have preferred they put a bullet between my eyes than strip naked with other men."
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 12:48 AM
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8. "Steven who had a goatee and was in charge of the torture"
"There was an intelligence officer named Steven who had a goatee and was in charge of the torture. He would tell the torturers, 'this guy had enough or that guy should be tortured more,'" Saleh said.

After the inmates were "softened up" by torture, the interrogations began.

"One of the interrogators was a guy by the name of Carlos and there were Mrs. Liz and Staff Sgt. Chris," a woman, he said.



Perhaps Steven Stefanowicz (Stephanowicz)?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:07 AM
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10. geez!
the weird thing about imagining horrible things for satire is, reality seems to intervene and make it come true.

the flick we shot the other day had a so-called "civilian contractor" with a goatee directing the torture as well!

http://www.terminalproduct.com/torture.rm

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 01:01 AM
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9. He has already claimed five names
Bush and Rummy said there were seven bad apples. So, did this guy have the misfortune of meeting five sevenths of the military's bad apples? Or, more likely, there were way more than seven guards involved in the torture and abuse.
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