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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:15 PM
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Bush approval rating hits new low, Iraq support falling away: poll
I am happy to say this is *not* a duplicate post. This is the new Newsweek poll, 2 hours old. How does 42% approve/52% disapprove sound?
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Bush approval rating hits new low, Iraq support falling away: poll

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Public approval for US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) has hit a new low, as Americans show increasing disapproval over his administration's occupation of Iraq (news - web sites), a poll revealed.

The American president's overall job approval rating has fallen to 42 percent, down from a 49 percent rating recorded in an April 8-9 Newsweek poll.


For the first time since Bush took office in January 2001, a majority of Americans surveyed by Newsweek (52 percent) disapprove of him.


The Republican president's approval rating on Iraq has hit a record low, as well, plummeting to 35 percent from 44 percent in the April poll.
........end excerpt...........
Link from Yahoo
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:17 PM
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1. 42%
Ive been waiting for this Newsweek poll...
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:18 PM
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2. Wellll...........
my approval for * has always been lower than this!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:31 PM
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8. Approval? From me it has always been negative 100%, since day one. n/t
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:22 PM
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15. Right after 9/11, I had hope....

...hope that reality would snap George from the silliness that had been his life until then. I really wanted him to do good and to use the good will we had around the world.

Once the talk of going into Iraq started, I knew those hopes were in vain.

So I can't say that I didn't want Bush to succeed at one point.

Now, I want his political life, along with all of his neocon cronies stomped into a pulp and left to lay in the mud.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:38 PM
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23. I want all of their DNA destroyed and sterilized
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:19 PM
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3. WOW....
Great news. That's right in line with the new Zogby poll. He's in a complete freefall all across the board. Now my worry is just how far these criminals are going to go to stem the tide.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:24 PM
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5. What sort of horrors should we expect from the politco-geniuses?
I know, he is going to change course and "run toward the center" ha ha ha.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:30 PM
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20. we could expect that Laura might buy a decent bra


and concentrate of other things other than her botoxed face, her helmeted hair, and her bad oriental eye lifts.

and stop trying to sew her own clothing. She is privvy to millions of dollars. She can afford to try to look better than this. Eeeee gad She is horribly inept at the sewing machine and should really spend some money and time on a designer that is going to tell her the truth How bad can it get?

Laura, you are a middle aged woman, heading in age toward your sixties. You are NOT aging gracefully. You do NOT have the svelt figure of your youth and so stop trying to pretend you do. You are an embarrassment to this country with this dress.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:40 PM
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24. I doubt that she has done any sewing in ages.
Her mind couldn't handle the work.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:21 PM
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36. She's an embarrassment no matter what she wears.
She seems too xanaxed out to worry about her frumpy clothes.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:24 PM
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4. And the media is finally starting to actually report REAL stories....
Coincidence??

I think not.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:25 PM
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6. I would LOVE to hear Bill "AEI" Schnieder
say that Smirk is a 'popular wartime president'.

Go on, say it you shill!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:26 PM
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7. For some reason, I'm not surprised.
Gee, I wonder why.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:43 PM
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9. Bush approval ratings THIRTY-FIVE PERCENT?!?
Edited on Sat May-15-04 03:48 PM by mouse7
I need some historical context to this. Is this lower than Nixon at the time of his resignation?

(On edit) I found the answer myself...

"....In contrast to the Watergate scandal when President Nixon's approval ratings dipped to an abysmal 24% as impeachment moved forward..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/clinton_under_fire/la...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:55 PM
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11. Iraq approval, not overall. Right?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:13 PM
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14. You're right.
It's Iraq approval.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:41 PM
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25. Well, if * keeps clinging to Iraq ...

more of this Iraq discontent should rub off on the more general ratings.

And I think *'s too dogmatic to change his mind about or general strategy in Iraq: he shows no ability to absorb uncomfortable facts, and he's not about to admit he was wrong about anything. My bet: we'll get some happy sounding noises, suggesting a change of direction/method, but there will be no real follow-up; the Iraq story will get worse.
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:23 PM
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16. Give it a couple of weeks
It's trending downward. The question is how far down can it go? I really do not think that 24% is out of the question
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javadu Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:49 PM
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10. I Knew That I Should Have Waited Until After the Election To . . .
cancel my cable. I would love to be watching Fox News right now. I bet the Fox All Stars are having a crying and screaming fit over these news polls.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:00 PM
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39. Actually, according to Faux News, Bush is still ahead of Kerry,
but they did speak of his overall approval falling and all the "bad" news lately. Then they joyfully moved on to a long winded, head shaking, grinning, discussion of "WHY" Kerry's numbers were not moving up fast enough and that if Kerry cant move forward after the events of the last couple of weeks, then this proves he has no campaign and no identification with the public.

it was disgusting.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:20 PM
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42. Talk about whistling past the graveyard
The most recent Faux poll did have Bush leading Kerry by 3, but that was before Bush began dropping into the mid-to-low 40s. Head-to-head matchups now have Kerry tied or leading.

Faux needs to brush up on some campaign history. Challengers, even ones who end up winning, are rarely in front at this point, or even tied. Kerry is in phenomenal shape.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #39
48. Fox lackey, Juan Williams eagerly explained the many short comings of
the Kerry campaign.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:55 PM
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12. The media conglomerates
who have taken over this country do business or attempt to do business in Europe and Asia as well. They are bound to be noticing by now that * is not good for business. And four more years of this will render the U.S. the "evil empire" which must be destroyed by the 180 or so countries in the world who oppose its hegemonistic policies.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 03:59 PM
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13. SINKING!! FREE FALL!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:23 PM
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17. What will the Apologists say now?
Remember when, in April, the bloodiest month of this wretched war, citing polls in which Bush had yet to begin his slump, Conserva-types were engaging in mutual masturbation, exclaiming that Americans stick by their war time presidents, come hell, high water, or torture???

That was the longest sentence ever, eh? But you get the gist...

Suck it up, Apologists. Sometimes it just takes a little while for it to sink in with Americans, ya know?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:32 PM
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21. What will they say, and better yet, what will they DO?
The Hard Core will keep on Denying.

The Basement Gang throwing darts on the wall to decide which where to go next? They are flummoxed and dangerous. They want to win so Bad they can taste it.

I venture to say they will attempt larger Lies. Its the only arrow left in their quiver. They already tried small lies to no avail.

I think the next step is more and Larger NEG LIES.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:27 PM
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18. Bush's new anthem:
Bruce Springsteen's "I'm goin' Down, Down, Down, Down, Down ... I'm goin' Down, Down, Down, Down, Down."

Gratuitous Clenis joke: That song would've worked for Monica, too. ;) Ah, those were the days when BJs were the worst crisis in this country.

Oh, man, if I see a mainstream poll with Dumbass under 40 I am going to break out the champagne (and I mean the good stuff).

:party: :toast: :beer: :headbang: :kick:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:27 PM
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19. The rumble is becoming a roar
The voices of dissent, the voices of clarity, the voices who tried to convince the bush supporters of his incompetence, we've been drowned out for years.

Finally they're listening, and adding their voices, too. Once numbers start to slide like this, they take on a life of their own. Kind of that snowball effect.

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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:44 PM
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26. Regime Change is Vital
But regime change is not enough.

Kerry is lots better, but we need to somehow get him moved more toward peace, away from these huge defense budgets, away from Iraq (he says he would stay), etc. etc. etc.

He has no health care reform, no electronic voting reform, no NAFTA/WTO reform to suit me -- these are major issues, and I'm not seeing enough differentiation.

Sure, we might actually not blow the world up with Kerry as Pres. But, we have big problems, many of them made quite awful by Bush, and we need to not just "stay the course" dammit, but start making real progress.

Bush has been jacking up the defense budget 15% per year (just as PNAC plotted out before he got into office), PLUS the huge add-ons for Afghanistan, Iraq, and god knows what's next.

Unless a president and congress not only reverse that 15% per year, but start ratcheting it downward, we don't have the money to do anything about anything else.

It is the giant elephant in the living room.

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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:35 PM
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22. But I thought everybody liked W*?
That's what the media whores keep saying. He's so likable.

Maybe we are near the end of this nightmare!
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:46 PM
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27. Forgive me in advance, but
I'm new to DU--why do some folks use an asterisk to designate Bush's name? Is it like baseball stats when the stat itself is questionable? Like Bush's presidency is questionable, as in illegitimate? Just asking.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:54 PM
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28. Cause he was outvoted and still became Prez
Edited on Sat May-15-04 04:55 PM by BeyondGeography
Outvoted nationally and in Florida, which supposedly put him over the top. So, you nailed it: Illegitimate.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:55 PM
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29. it is like baseball stats when the stat itself is questionable
We don't consider him as having been elected. There are a few other meanings floating about. Personally, I sometimes feel revulsion when I have to type his name and type the * instead.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:01 PM
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31. Got it.


Thanks.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:09 PM
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32. It's the icon Doonsbury uses
for Dubya (like Reagan's cowboy hat) It's an asterisk because one of the supreme court justices said after the ruling in *'s favor that he would forever be known as the President with an asterisk at the end of his name (* not elected by the people of America).
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:15 PM
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33. I'll spell out the other meaning of *
as I don't mind being crude. In a Kurt Vonnegut book (anyone remember which one? Slaughterhouse 5 or ??) the "*" is used as a symbol for the anal opening. Fitting, eh?
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:19 PM
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35. Breakfast of Champions....
I just Googled it.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:00 PM
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30. Another Yahoo story on the poll, this one from AP
Read on about the great sucking....
AP yahoo

Bush Job Approval Dips With Iraq Problems

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

PHOENIX - President Bush (news - web sites)'s job approval ratings are hitting the lowest levels of his tenure as problems in Iraq (news - web sites) crowd out other issues for voters, public opinion specialists say.

A Newsweek poll released Saturday put Bush's overall job approval at 42 percent, the lowest yet in that poll. Other recent survey have rated Bush in the mid-40s.


"Iraq is sucking the life out of other issue deliberations among the voters in the campaign," said political scientist Douglas Strand of the University of California-Berkeley.


Strand and Merrill Shanks, also a political scientist at the school, have conducted public opinion research on how various issues are affecting the campaign.
........end excerpt.........
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:19 PM
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34. Well, we have been waiting a long time for the numbers to come down
now we need to see what they intend to do about it. I don't put anything past this administration, and if they start to feel desperate, well, who knows what direction they will head next.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:39 PM
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37. They base there existence on winning and only winning, Rove and Bush
could give a shit about this country. Expect the lie machine to be in full force, could be more beheadings of Americans with liberal parents? At any rate, more and more people that are right of center are now agreeing with me that Bush co. is a cabel of lies and no bid contracts to the rich.
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elf Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:35 PM
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40. watch this
Patrick Seale: An Iraq exit strategy for the United States

The sadistic torture of Iraqi prisoners by their American guards, followed by the revenge beheading of an American hostage, has caused the whole world to cry out in anger and revulsion at such gross inhumanity. The debasing images provoke nausea and tears, and a sense of disbelief. How could such crimes have been committed?...........

.............As a result, the world finds itself in a sort of moral limbo, without norms or standards, in which the most outrageous acts go unpunished. This is the devastating legacy of President George W Bush's administration.

go on reading..............

http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/Region2.asp?ArticleID...


..........and they go down, down and deeper, THE INTERNET is a blessing!
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narcjen Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:05 PM
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41. Wait til Kerry picks his running mate

it won't be long before bush sinks into the 30's.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:23 PM
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43. Not only that Joe Wilson's book will be hitting it big before too long now
and then Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 911 will be out and then watch junior's number plummet into the middle 20's.
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narcjen Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:41 PM
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44. hehe

I'd say the Berg killing backfired on him big.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:32 PM
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45. Totally irrelevent., Just like the polls that had the reverse numbers.
This race is going to so close that turnout is going to win it. Want to get chimp out? Stop worring about polls and bring ten dems to the polls with you on election day.
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:34 PM
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46. Why on earth don't the Democrats attack Bush?
Bush is vulnerable on Iraq, but the Democrats aren't hitting him hard enough.

My California Sen DiFi along with other are siding with the administration against releasing more photos of prison abuse.

They are wrong!

Bush could care less about the Geneva Convention or any other international laws (I recall Bush saying: "international law? I better get my lawyer...")

If a Democratic President had an approval rating that low it would be all over.

If the Democrats lose in Nov. we'll know why.


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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-04 08:38 AM
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47. DiFi
is in bed with the neocons. She is sort of a female Lieberman.

The two parties break down over the "global war on everyone" issue. There are Democrats sympathetic to the neocons who are for it and there are (usually) midwestern and northeastern Republicans who are, if not against it, way more skeptical about playing out this end-of-the-world scenario than are the fire-breathing neocons such as Rumsfeld, Cheney et al.

There are southern Republicans who were nominally Democratic only a generation ago who are the driving force behind all of this and it is because the Southern Baptist Convention and other right-wing "evangelical" groups are hoping to bring about Armageddon, even if only subconsciously.
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