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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:39 AM
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5 U.S. Soldiers Die in Separate Incidents
5 U.S. Soldiers Die in Separate Incidents


BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military on Saturday announced the deaths of five soldiers: three from wounds suffered in rebel attacks, one in a vehicle accident and one from natural causes.



A soldier died at 3 p.m. Friday from wounds he received during a mortar attack that day, and another soldier died on the same day from bullet wounds suffered when a sniper ambushed his unit, the military said.


Early Friday, a military vehicle overturned during a patrol, killing a soldier, the military said.


All three soldiers belonged to the U.S. Army's 1st Armored Division and all died south of Baghdad.


Another soldier died at around 8 p.m. Friday from wounds suffered in a car bomb attack on a military convoy on a road near Balad, north of Baghdad, the military said. Another soldier was injured in the attack.


A fifth soldier died of natural causes Friday in the headquarters of the U.S.-led coalition in Baghdad, the military said.


"The soldier was found unconscious and transported to the 31st Combat Support Hospital in Baghdad where he was pronounced dead at 6:55 a.m.," the military said in a statement.


The names of the soldiers were withheld pending notification of their families.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:41 AM
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1. And the Beat goes on...How many more need to die in this War?
I regret to inform you....

That's what another 5 families get to hear this morning....

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 04:43 AM
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2. Disgusting
I have made a lot of political decisions in my life. Opposing this war from Day One was the best one I have ever made.
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:09 AM
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3. I marched in Seattle......
Lotta good it did! The whol;e world opposed Shrub's war. I wish he'd stand trial for his crimes! the whole lotta them
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 05:13 AM
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4. 1AD has begun its second year back to back tour of duty in Iraq
not of their own choosing, many not having taken R & R since being deployed. This is worse than Vietnam.
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:38 AM
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10. I know the mother
of a young soldier who was just severely wounded in Iraq. However, what upsets him most is not that he was wounded, but that he is away from his buddies in the war zone and he wants to rejoin them as soon as possible.

This guy is around 20 years old. I have to hand it to our military. If this "grunt"'s attitude is typical, they have done a "body-snatcher" operation on these soldiers and literally turned them into "lean, mean killing machines." There are no more morale problems when you have extracted one's humanity. I would say this young man is close to being a robot already. The Pentagon probably laments that he still has flesh and blood which can be torn apart and leak out. He may well lament the same thing.

The "mind control" techniques employed by the military to achieve such all-for-one and one-for-all camaraderie and "unit cohesion" are a wonder to behold, but they ought to scare the bejeesus out of the rest of us, because one day in the not-too-distant future in totalitarian "Ameriraq" these same soldiers will see you and me as the enemy and be disappointed when they have to take a break from killing us.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:30 AM
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15. More Guilt then Mind Control
It's more a feeling of guilt on the part of the soldier then mind control. He feels guilty because his friends are in harms way and he's not there to help them. This is something that all soldiers deal with, and it comes down to a matter of choice.

Remember a few weeks back, the sisters of a soldier killed in Iraq had to decide whether they wanted to return or to get a non-combat assignment. Luckily for their parents they chose to stay home, but they felt guilty about not returning to Iraq, mainly because of the friends that were still there.

So I think this kid is feeling a sense of guilt, and misses his friends, more then he wants to actually kill people.

I volunteered for Desert Storm, not out of any need to be a "killing machine", but because of an obligation I felt I owed. Besides that I
had two friends that were dealing with family problems at the time, and I volunteered to get thme off the hook as it were.

I have never regretted my decision, and truth be known if I had been wounded, going back would have been the last thing that I'd want to do.

I could be mistaken, since I come from a different generation of soldiers then this kid does.
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:49 AM
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16. I know nothing about this personally, but it appears to be
a response of fighting men in general. The soldiers of World War II and even the Civil War expressed the same kind of feelings.

Modern military indoctrination may well screw up their heads, I don't know, and it appears the soldiers nowadays are given some kind of drug to make them mopre aggressive. I remember reading that in one article a few years back when there was a sudden spate of soldiers killing their wives; and just a few weeks back someone here linked to an article that described US soldiers going into battle under the influence of amphetamines.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:16 AM
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5. so is it 780 dead?
Edited on Sat May-15-04 06:17 AM by leftchick
When I went to bed I thought it was 775 dead. This sucks. Bring Them Home! :(
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:32 AM
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7. lunaville shows 781 ...................... eom
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:31 AM
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6. Hey Flagg.
Noticed the RW at EF has scrambled off into ratholes. The truth hurts.

G
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:01 AM
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11. I sure did. The French bashers too. They've been strangely quiet
Edited on Sat May-15-04 07:02 AM by Flagg
these last few weeks.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:49 AM
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12. I actually spoke to Dog Ear
He worked in France and got treated like shit because he was American. Now he's working around other parts of Europe and is a brilliant programmer. He took his girlfriend to Paris a few weeks ago. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

It's a wind up most of the time. We have been messaging more oft than not within the community lately. It's nice to connect privately once in awhile. You should try it.

EF should be more of a Rugby match feel, plenty of pints after the match. We are expatriates and that's all we have in common. But we are still people with kids, and lives, and jobs and friends etc.

G.
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 08:07 AM
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14. 782 n/t
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:37 AM
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8. I guess the news media have not been informed yet.
I didn't see this story on CNN or NBC this morning.

Have people stopped caring or has major media decided it's no longer news?

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 06:37 AM
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9. Let's stop this nonsense. No one needs to die for nothing.
Bring the troops home.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 07:53 AM
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13. 218 away from 1000
If we're nor there already. I believe it's entirely possible that they have many bodies stashed away, with the soldiers listed as wounded.
Lunaville had the number at 782 this morning.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 09:56 AM
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17. Five More GIs Die In Iraq - CBS (Look at the children working to fight US)
Edited on Sat May-15-04 09:58 AM by dArKeR
raqi boys drag metal netting to block entrance to office of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in Sadr City in Baghdad Saturday. The mostly poor Shiite neighborhood has large support base for al-Sadr.(Photo: AP)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main5418...
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-04 11:38 AM
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18. The dead are dead but the families feel despair. The wounded are alive
and get no recognition. They are not mentioned by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, The GOP Whore Media...

Imagine yourself a soldier and going to fight in Iraq. How would this make you feel to know this is the way your Bush Government will treat you?

The GOP leadership and immoral fake patriots (Limbaugh, Savage, Fineman, Novak...) in our country are a disgrace to our Nation.
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