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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:17 PM
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Nancy Pelosi provides Newt Gingrich ethics report (1280 pages of the Ethics Committee report)
Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Nancy Pelosi provides Newt Gingrich ethics report

In case you havent been watching cable TV, two former House Speakers named Nancy Pelosi and Newt Gingrich are having a bit of a fracas related to all that Gingrich baggage about which GOP primary voters in Iowa appear to be blissfully ignorant.

Pelosi, the San Francisco Democrat and now House minority leader, promised to release records that are public but havent seen much sunshine lately about the congressional ethics investigation of Gingrich back in the day.

Gingrich said that would be foul play and promised to retaliate, claiming Pelosi was threatening to disclose non-public information. But Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said Pelosi was clearly referring to the extensive amount of information that is in the public record, including the comprehensive committee report with which the public may not be fully aware.

Hammill helpfully provided public links and we provide them here.




Read more: http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2011/12/06/nancy-p...



Heres the 1280 pages of the Ethics Committee report:
In the Matter of Representative Newt Gingrich:
http://ethics.house.gov/committee-report/matter-represe...
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:21 PM
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1. Nancy, I owe you an apology
Good job. I hope it has some juicy tidbits in it.
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:16 PM
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24. Nancy should apologize for stupidly releasing this NOW.

Dems have absolutely no sense of political strategy. NONE! Wait until Newt wins the nomimation, then crush him AND the Republican party.
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:20 PM
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26. This helps Newt get the nomination.
Remember, Repthug voters only care about corruption if a Democrat is accused of it. And they have a hatred of Nancy Pelosi that's almost as extreme and pathological as their hatred of Barack Obama. The fact that she's attacking Gingrich will make the Repigs even more likely to support him.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:39 PM
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28. Mitt Romney is still very electable. And Newt?
Not so much. Anything that helps Gingrich to win the nomination is a setback for Republicans come November 2012, whether they realize it or not.
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:31 PM
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40. Romney's "electability" is overrated.
He looks (relatively) electable during the primary campaign because of the "I'm not as crazy as these other guys" effect. But if he's nominated, those "other guys" will all be gone, and he'll be compared instead to an opponent in President Obama who's actually sane. At that point "seems sane by virtue of comparison to Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann" wouldn't be so much of a selling point.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:10 PM
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50. It looks to me like Romney has been taking Reagan
lessons. Notice how he's holding his head a bit to the side and gives a bit of a guy giggle with the awh shucks bit?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #50
68. Early-onset Alzheimer's?
Could be a positive for Repub voters!
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 10:39 PM
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69. Actually I think that's Newt. n/t
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:58 AM
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104. BE CAREFUL, NEWT IS AS SLIMEY AS HIS NAMESAKE
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 11:02 AM by HowHasItComeToThis
:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:06 AM
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105. LOOK AT THOSE SHIFTY EYES
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #105
112. Looks like something you can crush with your feet.
apologies to all pro-life folks. :hide:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #50
125. They ALL try to imitate Reagan, even Palin
"There you go again."

Thing is, for all his faults, Reagan actually had a sense of humor. When they try to fit their Reagan impression into their stream of bs, it's just embarrassing and awkward.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:34 PM
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64. I wonder if that is what they thought in Mass. when he ran for govenor? /nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:02 AM
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126. Two major differences:
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 11:04 AM by No Elephants
1. When Romney ran for Gov, he had yet to do a single public flip flop. He had run against Kennedy as a liberal (and Massachusetts was accustomed to liberal Republicans) and he ran for Governor as a liberal.

2. Massachusetts does not put a whole lot of emphasis on a Governor (though it should) because the Legislation has been well over 90% Democratic for a very long time. They can override any guberenatorial veto, if they wish--and every Gov knows that very well. Some people (idiots) actually believe it is better to have a Rethug Governor because always having all power in one party is unhealthy.

neither of those things apply if Romney runs for Pres.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #40
124. Agree. Romney's proven himself, um, flexible on every major issue.
Voters cannot trust a person like that, be they Rethug, Indie or Dem.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:00 PM
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47. i dunno---waiting for more ____ to hit the fan re: Bain Capital's offshore tax haven accounts
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 08:03 PM by wordpix
Rich Mitt's investment tax havens offshore won't be big with the 99%-ers.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/04/12/157766/mit... /

snip:

As the Los Angeles Times reported in 2007:

Romney gained no personal tax benefit from the legal operations in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands. But aides to the Republican presidential hopeful and former colleagues acknowledged that the tax-friendly jurisdictions helped attract billions of additional investment dollars to Romneys former company, Bain Capital, and thus boosted profits for Romney and his partners.
By routing investments through shell companies set up in Bermuda or the Caymans, companies like Bain Capital allow their investors to avoid the 35 percent corporate tax rate they would have to pay in the U.S., leaving more revenues for executive compensation. Romney might have closed corporate tax loopholes in Massachusetts, but he predictably does not feel the same way about the tax laws that allowed his company to operate freely in these offshore tax havens. He recently advocated for a one-time repatriation holiday to allow corporations hiding income offshore to bring it home to America at dramatically lower tax rates, and he supports substantially lowering the corporate tax rate. more...
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #47
90. Typo alert. I believe you mean Bane Capital.
Webster's Dictionary:

bane: source of harm or ruin


Yes Virginia there is a Sanity Clause
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:50 AM
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100. Important points also because it could play to traits within the 1%. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #47
127. I am sure Obama's camp has that at the ready, but, if Rethugs give Romney the nod, you
may want to email that Obama's campaign, just in case it somehow slipped their attention?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #28
65. I think Romney is 100% canned and pre-recorded.
I don't think he is bright. His big trait is amenability.

--imm
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:53 AM
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101. Oh, I think his amen -ability is off a little too, with the "Christian" Reich, BTW,
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 10:53 AM by patrice
are Mormons the Dominionists nearest and most significant competition?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #101
129. I saw what you did there.
Clever!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #65
128. Yes, he's very amenable. To change. On. Every. Issue.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #26
43. Why would they hate Pelosi??
She saved *'s ass and share his bloody hands.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:02 AM
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81. They hate Pelosi because she's a woman with power
Rethugs hate women, but especially women with a set of brass ovaries who don't take their shit.
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 02:51 AM
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122. Several reasons.
She's a powerful woman.
She's a Democrat.
She's from San Francisco.
She handed them their asses repeatedly during the years she was Speaker.

The only way Pelosi would get more hate from Repigs is if she were a lesbian black atheist with a foreign-sounding name.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #122
130. "Pelosi" is not exactly a WASP name.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:42 AM
Response to Reply #26
77. If your premise is true regarding GOP voters
Newt would have not been forced to step down as Speaker. Granted this is old news to a degree, yet it hardly has the effect of enhancing Newt's image as it served to remind the media and the public just what a sleaze he really is.

That said, Newt will not be the nominee and that was never a serious option for the GOP, any more than Bachman, Perry or Cain. This is all pretty much media side-show & in some cases book tours.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. +1
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:19 PM
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52. Fully agree
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #24
53. "I'm not a member of any organized political party . . I'm a Democrat." - Will Rogers
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:39 PM
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55. Wrong
you release it now and let the public become aware of Newts double dealing,
we can even pass some over to Mitt or Huntsman to run few tests too.

So I disagree.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #55
103. Me too. I think the Dems want to run against Mitt and so do I. nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:33 PM
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63. I agree. This is only to satisfy her own ego, not to help us win the election /nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #63
131. I doubt she would inject herself into Obama's Presidential election business without conferring
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 11:27 AM by No Elephants
with him.

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #24
86. 1290 pages
Should be enough to have material through until the election.
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #24
88. Bullshit.
Crush Republicans any time and any where.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:46 AM
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99. Perhaps they want to run against Mitt.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:21 AM
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108. Obama vs the architect of Obamacare ...
that would be an interesting concept ...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #108
110. I can dig it. Debate is good for people.
And, yes, I know these aren't real debates, but they're going to be useful anyway.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:21 AM
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132. Meh. That's okay among us chickens. However, in reality,
Romneycare was modeled on Hillarycare. Romney ain't smart enough or creative enough to have come up with anything on his own. About all he did was provide bad figures to the legislature.

Truth is, the Legislature and Romney could not agree. Massachusetts was about to lose a boatload of federal money unless it adopted a plan. Ted Kennedy, rest his soul, banged Romney's head togther with the heads of our Democratic legislative leacers and eh, voila, so called Romneycare.

Romney can't backpedal now because, to show what a "get stuff done" guy he was, he such made a big deal of how he got the liberal Massachusetts legislature to adopt a health care plan.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:54 AM
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102. I disagree, now is the perfect time, strike while the iron is hot and every time
another Republican starts "surging" in their mouse race, hit them as well, do it before the nomination and keep it up afterward.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:53 AM
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111. that makes sense to me.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:31 PM
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113. Actually, she's smarter than you.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-11 12:31 PM by stopbush
She realizes that Newt is NOT going to get the nomination, so she's putting this out there at the time when it can do the most damage, ie: with Newt at the top of the polls and heading into the Iowa primary next month.

This will cause fighting and distress among the R candidates. It might even lead to the other candidates picking up on the theme and bashing Newt with it. None of that works in the favor of Rs, as it reminds voters of everything that was bad about the Rs back when Newt ran things. It also reinforces what the public is beginning to see as the clown show aspect of the R primary process.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:23 AM
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133. This is the Obama campaign. Nancy is not going to stick her nose into Obama's Presidential election
business uninvited and without consultation.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:21 PM
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121. Absolutely right. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #24
123. I think Obama would prefer to run against Romney.
Maybe he is right; maybe he is wrong. But he is head of the Party.

Assuming Nancy is injecting herself into a Presidential campaign without any direction from the Obama campaign would be a mistake.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:17 PM
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25. Juicy enough where 395 Representatives voted to sanction him for it..
395 out of 435... I would say there wasn't much partisanship about it..
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:43 PM
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58. Just the facts... They're damning enough.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-11 05:31 AM
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143. This trivial political act makes up for not having stood up for democracy when
it was her duty to do so?

"Impeachment is off the table" - words to that effect.

Put your apology back in your pocket.

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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:23 PM
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2. Oh SNAP! The Lady jumps and she scores!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:00 PM
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20. "Three snaps and a rewind.' ;)
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:25 PM
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3. "You scoundrel!" Newt cried. "How foul, to tell the truth about me!" . . .
"I'll get you for this. And your little dog!"
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:45 PM
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59. Hehe! Nailed that one before I got there...
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:27 PM
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4. "Whatever truth you read about me are lies."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:26 AM
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134. Remember when Newt said that about quoting him?
Yes, whoever quoted what he said about a particular subject was a liar.

I wish I could remember what the subject was.

Newt's a hoot, all right.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:32 PM
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5. Annnnddd another one bites the dust...
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:54 PM
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15. I dont know about that. The Republican base only hates it
when a candidate tells the truth or makes sense. The extremist Republican base that controls their primaries seem to especially favor any candidate who has been shown to be a scoundrel the worse the behavior, the better they like the candidate. Dont forget, after the allegations of sexual harassment, Cains numbers soared and he collected a huge amount in donations specifically because of the charges.

The fact that Pelosi is the one who revealed his ethics violations will automatically make them side with Gingrich, because for too many people on both sidesbut especially for right-wingersthis is just a sports contest, and they will defend their team against the rival team, no matter what.

Look for his numbers to go up and for him to collect more money in small donations from the base.
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:33 PM
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6. You go Nancy.
No wonder the repubs quiver in their boots at the mere mention of her name. :bounce:
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:33 PM
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7. Boy, Ol' Newty really stepped in that one!
:rofl: :popcorn:
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:42 PM
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8. Gingrich + ethics? Did we need a report on his ethics
because really now considering how he cheated multiple times on his other wives and abandoned/divorced them his stand on ethics should be pretty clear..........that stand on ethics being of course that he has none.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:31 AM
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135. Nothing tells you more about the Rethug voter's mentality than
abandoning Cain because of one long term adultery, only to switch to Newt, who cheated on two wives (that we know of so far) and married the other woman both times.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:50 PM
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9. Great job Nancy;
However, don't you think this could have had a greater impact, say in about 6-7 months from now?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 04:52 PM
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10. When Boehner and Pelosi first met
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 04:55 PM by rocktivity


:headbang:
rocktivity
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:53 PM
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33. His very first nicotine fit perhaps?
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TexasTowelie Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:07 PM
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37. LOL. He didn't get his bottle.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:34 AM
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95. He
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:55 PM
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46. LOL!!!
:rofl:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:33 AM
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136. LOLOL!
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:02 PM
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11. She should have waited until he was the nominee!
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:54 PM
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16. I know! I think Obama would win in a landslide against Newt.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:02 PM
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36. Yup
As for electability in a presidential contest, Gingrich is akin to Barry Goldwater, only without the personal integrity
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:35 AM
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137. What personal integrity? Supporting Joe McCarthy after almost everyone else had
walked away from him?

Using "states' rights" as code for Jim Crow?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:56 PM
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18. Yep. The last thing we want is to make it easier for Mitt to win the primary. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:25 PM
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27. i think she is trying to help make him the nominee by doing this
the wingnuts feel the need to defend him when the commie socialist san francisco ehldfdl pelosi goes after him
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:58 PM
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34. Exactly
I forsee Pelosi heaping an abundance of praise on Romney from this point forward. Statements like:

"Thank you Mitt, for your pioneering work on the health care insurance mandate", or
"As a liberal governor of Massachusetts, Mitt worked well with his fellow liberals on the other side of the aisle".
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:09 PM
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12. Was wondering how long it would take the Dems to jump on that.
Glad you did Nancy "Impeachment is Off The Table" Pelosi
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:17 PM
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13. And how was The Newt going to retaliate?
Got something in his secret file on anyone who exposes him? I'll bet he has something on many Pugs AND Dems.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 12:27 PM
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139. He'll wait until she has surgery and sneak up on her in post-op while she is still groggy.
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 12:27 PM by pam4water
Worked on his first wife.
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rtassi Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:41 PM
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14. I guess I don't understand how Newt, could not have known
this report was going to become spot light ... is it possible to be that isolated from reality ... a political reality he helped craft ... the politics of personal destruction? Not that it will matter a bit to those who will not read, hear, or think!
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oldhippydude Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:22 AM
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75. actually
don't think Newt ever had any intentions of running seriously.. i think Newt, as With most of the rest of them, is part of a G.O.P. pundit (grifter) class.. a good portion of these folks write (actually ghost write) books, cash in with fokkks, become lobbyists, or work for think tanks, when the party is in power they milk the system.. this gives them name recognition among the conservatives,

with so little flexabity among them for running against conservative conventional wisdom, the candidates themselves are as interchangable as christmas light bulbs.. when one burns out your mearly replace it.. it now appears its newt's turn to start to burn out, mark my word that at some point (perhaps 2016) Anne Coulter will be called into the ring, the past will be severly edited, and even the craziest will be in the rotation..

keep your eyes on fokkks, and Karl Rove.. the press and the superpacs are the life blood of the movment.. the national Republican party is rapidly becomeing nothing more than a facade for appearances sake..

as for Newt it was just his turn..last one standing in NC will probably fight Mitt, for the nomination.. the rest of the folks can go back to lobbying and grifting,
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thucythucy Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 09:14 AM
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91. The same way Herman Cain
was absolutely mystified when all the women he'd groped or tried to grope over the years started coming forward. I get the sense that, in their own minds, these folks simply don't believe they did anything wrong, hence, "no skeletons in the closet."

I'm waiting for one or more of Gingrich's former wives/lovers to speak out. I suspect Newt the Bewt has a whole shoestore of "other shoes" about to drop.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 11:39 AM
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138. Apparently, his strategy is to pretend it's dirty pool for her to release info on the public record.

They figure their base will go along with anything, as it did go along with Cain when he claimed Democrats were out to get him with all these accusations of sexual harassment.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 05:55 PM
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17. I think Rep. Pelosi is awesome. Too bad she's not Senate Majority Leader.
Filibusters would not have been a problem for the past 3 years.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:27 AM
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85. She is about to become Speaker again.
At least she predicted a solid Dem win in 2012 the other day in San Fran, at a private reception. I got a few close-ups:

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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:00 PM
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19. I read it in the WP back then
so this stuff is most certanly in the public domain....and the MSM knows it. :evilfrown:
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MarkCharles Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:02 PM
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21. "Nancy Pelosi and Newt Gingrich are having a bit of a fracas" nope, one
Speaker of the House was well-respected, one was admonished, one was a woman, one a man, one was thoughtful, deliberate, caring, one was after each and every dollar he could amass for himself, and lying about how he did it.

Nope, this was not about "a bit of a fracas", this is about ethics, and integrity.

"a bit of a fracas", understates the matter, for sure.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:03 PM
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22. Why do it now? We want him as the opponent, no?
Would it not have been better to wait until the general election ?
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:44 PM
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30. That would seem to make better sense strategy wise
Edited on Wed Dec-07-11 06:45 PM by Liberalynn
but oh well its just good to see Dems fighting back and reminding people of just what kind of dishonest, hypocritical cretins the Pukes really are.
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musiclawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:48 PM
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32. The only thing I can muster is that
Nancy KNOWS he's got it in the bag......... So she wants to damage him right out the gate!
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:47 PM
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31. Since Nancy is behind this, Republicans will rally to Newt
Then Newt will systematically march them off a cliff. Pelosi is no dummy.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:32 AM
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87. Above someone has the theory that it makes him more
appealing to Republicans!

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Puzzledtraveller Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:43 AM
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98. Exactly
As political junkies we tend to think in extremes, though Conservative republicans may like Gingrich more (don't know why) it's the safe, middle of the road appeal that could make Romney a bigger threat to us.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:12 PM
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23. Oooh. That's gotta hurt!
:rofl:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 06:42 PM
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29. RW radio was chuckling that Nancy would never do this and probably has secrets too
Hilarious that she actually did it.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:48 PM
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67. Nancy's not running for the presidency, fuckwads.
She can't be damaged the way Newtie can. Not that he's got anything to fear. If he's done nothing wrong, he's got nothing to hide.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:14 PM
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38. Wasn't this a matter of public record? We all know he is the only speaker to be censured in office.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:16 PM
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39. "we" might know, but not many others , especially indies.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:48 AM
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78. Yes it was, but....
If I remember correctly--and I'm not at all sure that I do--only excerpts of the report were released to the press, which sat on them during the '00 election cycle. For several years at least it was not yet complete.

I remember asking about it at the GPO office in the late '90s, and getting laughed at, but I don't remember the details. It was probably because I asked if I could have a copy, "for my own amusement;" but it could also have been that the report was never officially completed, which is one way Congress keeps sensitive material out of the grubby hands of the unwashed.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:32 PM
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41. Pearls before swine
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:48 PM
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45. too true. the last Repuke with enough IQ to go beyond gawking incomprehensibly at the title page -
while scratching their ass - is buried in Nixon's grave.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:35 PM
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42. Wish she would wait to release these items till AFTER he gets the nomination
Obama against Newt is a slam dunk because of these types of reports and his disgusting personal life. I don't think it's really likely but if there's a chance of having Newt be the nominee, I think we should do everything possible to facilitate making this happen..
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:04 PM
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49. She hasn't and won't release anything. Her aide says
she's talking about the public record.

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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:55 PM
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60. As someone else on DU pointed out, we may be better off with Mittens as the nominee
Many repubs are very cool to Mittens, their turnout for the general election would be low, and Democrats in all races would benefit.

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Puzzledtraveller Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:41 AM
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97. Conservatives are cool to Mittens
Big difference, Mittens would be bad, as the nominee that is.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 07:38 PM
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44. The RW talk show idiots have going on and on about how it was illegal and Pelosi was bluffing.
Well done Nancy!
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FreeBillClinton Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:04 PM
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48. Too long for our nation's journalists to read.
Can we get a 5 page summary, with pictures?
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Shoe Horn Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:11 PM
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51. So, he used tax exempt organization for political gain, illegally? This is good stuff, I may even...
...print it out for some bed time reading!
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:29 PM
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54. "Gingrich said that would be foul play and promised to retaliate,..."
....Oldt Newt, you should have more confidence, be more positive, not be so petty or excitable, be generous and presidential, after all, you're too big to fail....

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_does_newt_gingrich%2...
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:41 PM
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56. Nice
we can start the slicing and dicing prompto.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 08:41 PM
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57. Bwahaha! Another epic fail by the Newt.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:11 PM
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61. I love her. nt
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:33 PM
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62. The Democrats should hope ginrich gets nominated. What she is doing is effectively helping romney
get the nomination, and that is not good

If people do not think they have to worry about romney, remember he was govenor in a state that was very progressive at the time

I suspect she is doing this for her own ego, and not what is good for the party.

You put this out after ginrich gets the nomination, not before





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Indepatriot Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:15 AM
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73. This will HELP Gingrinch with the Tbaggers, they hate Pelosi
more than they do Obama...well maybe not that much, but they'll rally round Newt to defend him against Pelosi. Nacy knows just what she's doing, and wouldn't have done it without Obama's blessing. Bet on it.
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Puzzledtraveller Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:39 AM
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96. I agree
Romney's potential appeal is underestimated. Particularly among the "middle" who are the pendulum when it comes to general elections.

The vast majority of those who come out to vote in November do not follow politics, and if the mood of the country is sour we could be in for a close fight.

IMO
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:27 PM
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115. Sometimes Massachusetts votes for a Republican governor.
I grew up there. It's can be kind of an anti-corruption vote, because the Democrats control so much of the Mass. government, and have for so long. I'm not sure that Romney has any staying power outside of that specific context.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 09:45 PM
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66. If he hasn't done anything wrong, then he doesn't have anything to hide.
We all know what a morally upstanding and Godly man he is. Surely there's nothing out there that might place him in a negative light.

No worries Newtie. I'm sure all that information will absolve you of any suspicion of wrongdoing. :hi:
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:09 PM
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70. When do the
pig fucking pictures get released? If you saw the pictures of Newt Gingrich fucking a pig could you support a pig fucking president?
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-11 11:14 PM
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71. Only a Republican would claim "facts" comprise a dirty trick!
Dirty tricks from a Republican usually entail innuendo, cherry-picking, out-of-context data, and other filtered content, as well as outright lies.

Facts, however, have a well-known liberal bias.

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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:56 AM
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72. It's 1300 pages. It won't be associated with her, but with whoever digs up the juicy parts.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 01:59 AM
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74. Gingrich promised to retaliate!
What is the fat fuck going to do?
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:35 AM
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76. Clean up on aisle 4!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:25 AM
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84. No, over there, on the far right, more to the right, keep going to the right, yeah, way over there
:rofl:

Nancy blasted the R's the other day at a private reception in San Fran. It was fun to hear her stump speech from a few feet away.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 05:55 AM
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79. Newtie's Republicon baggage just stinks to high heaven
He has fully ebraced Republicon Family Cesspool Values
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:34 AM
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80. Does the report cover all 84 of his violations or just the one he was busted for?
I don't have time to read through 1200+ pages. He was officially sanctioned for one violation but had a total of 84 charges against him. If it had been a Democratic Congress he would have been in a lot more trouble.
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Puzzledtraveller Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:05 AM
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82. Newt was/never will be the nominee anyway
I know many republicans who cannot stand the guy. It will be Mitt because it's a beauty pageant. The republicans learned that a old crotchety white haired man cannot win in this day and age.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:16 AM
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83. You think they have learned that lesson.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 08:56 AM
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89. Why didn't she wait until he got the nomination?? n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 09:48 AM
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92. Republican voters are willfully ignorant most of the time
They vote as they are told.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:13 AM
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93. Hope she dropped it on his desk with a giant "THUNK"
getting some dust in Newt's eye.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 10:23 AM
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94. Rock on Nancy!
You go girl!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:08 AM
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106. Good move Nancy. ChurchCoC is going to have a hard time selling this one! nt
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:17 AM
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107. Kick this one to the top
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 11:23 AM
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109. How is it "foul play" if it's public information?
In most cases, public employee's work record and information is pretty much public record ... you can go to a public institution and demand to be shown the records.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 12:54 PM
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114. K & R
:thumbsup:
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MerryBlooms Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:23 PM
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116. Beaut. n/t
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Shoe Horn Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:31 PM
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117. Fresh Air is doing an IN DEPTH segment on this with Washington Post reporter Karen Tumulty !!!
http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air /


"Newt Gingrich made a fortune from the businesses he started after leaving Congress in 1999. Washington Post reporter Karen Tumulty explains how Gingrich "transfigured himself from a political flameout into a thriving business conglomerate.""


Karen's been covering Newt since the 80's...so, interesting!
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wpelb Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 03:35 PM
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118. Give me a break
These two are most likely in cahoots on this somehow:



Unless you want to believe that (a) she was unaware of his ethical lapses at the time the picture was taken; and (b) he was unaware that she had "the goods" on him (assuming there really was and is anything of substance).
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 04:24 PM
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119. What are you talking about?
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-11 07:12 PM
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120. Wow, there's a lot of crap in that thar report!!
I wonder if Newty knew that shit was available to the public.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-11 02:04 PM
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140. Kick and would-be rec
Edited on Fri Dec-09-11 02:05 PM by mvd
Gingrich being the front-runner must be a joke. But let them run him; Obama will beat him easily. I'm not worried about Romney much either, because the Repukes obviously don't like him.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 05:01 PM
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141. Kick!
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-11 01:32 AM
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142. What can Nancy tell us we don't already know?
Newt is a slimy politician,it's a known fact he would make a terrible president.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 03:06 PM
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144. What?
Is she trying to use reverse psychology? Thinking that anything she does (cue the hatred and contempt that right wing-nuts hold for her) will convince them that Newt is the one to choose?

With the oily Mittens gaining popularity now, getting endorsements from all over and regaining points on the polls, I would think she should be going after him.

Gingrich is unelectable and it would be a shoo-in for Obama if he actually became their nominee.

Paul and Romney are the ones to knock off their pedestals, right now.

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