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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:21 PM
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U.S. begins building public case for renewing efforts to capture Fallujah
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 08:32 PM by 54anickel
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/851...

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - (KRT) - With hundreds of Marines converging on a military base outside the restive city of Fallujah, U.S. military officials on Saturday began building a public case for renewing their assault on that city, saying that insurgents there had not disarmed and that city leaders had not condemned them.

Top U.S. civilian and military officials also visited the base Saturday amid speculation in Washington that a decision to move against the insurgents might come as soon as this weekend. White House officials declined Saturday to comment on reports that President Bush was discussing whether to attack with top advisers and military officials at Camp Fallujah declined to say why U.S. Iraq administrator L. Paul Bremer and Gen. John Abizaid, the top military commander in the region, had visited the base.

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Hundreds of Marines arrived overnight at Camp Fallujah, a former Iraqi military base that has become the headquarters for U.S. operations in Anbar province, where U.S. and insurgent Iraqi forces this month have fought some of the bloodiest battles since U.S. troops entered Iraq 13 months ago.

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"What is strongly represented as a gallant, noble resistance operation inside Fallujah is nothing more than foreign fighters and former (Saddam loyalists), who are holding that city hostage," Kimmitt said. "But what they are holding that city hostage from is the benefits of Iraqi sovereignty."

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:25 PM
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1.  Myers " What we found was a huge rat's nest "


Gen. BLUE SUIT MEYERS puppet boy, US military catamite, appointed by Cheney Caesar in the year of Our Lord 2001

His quotes Duh, we are winning and on the increased violence that flared up this month is "a symptom of the success that we're having here in Iraq"

And "No my hand is not grabbing at her breast"

Also on the subject of Fallujah "We went in because we had to find the perpetrators and what we found was a huge rat's nest that is still festering today. It needs to be dealt with,"
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:34 PM
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2. they're all foreign fighters and former Ba'athists.
Tell THAT to al Sadr, who lost his father and his brothers, KILLED BY SADDAM.

What planet do these people live on? Making the public case BY LIES...and they think we will swallow them.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 09:10 PM
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5. the rat nest....did they find bush and cheney
The big rat nest is bush and cheney....where ever they are hiding.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:40 PM
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3. The benefits of Iraqi soverignty
What is the matter with these ungrateful Iraqis?



http://www.wgoeshome.com
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:46 PM
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4. Can't have a bloodbath without a PR campaign, now can we
Is this the new product roll-out? :eyes:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 10:14 PM
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6. It Just Begins? What A Mess!
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 11:13 PM
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7. If the American and British forces don't 'hold' Fallujah
then we're still in the middle of a full-scale war.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 11:32 PM
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8. What the USA thinks they have in Fallujah is only the tip of the iceberg
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Where do they think all the soldiers went?

They disbanded the ones they could identify, and there are 100's of thousands os them left, not to mention all the "new" enemies they create every time they kill an innocent person.

From their own analyses, check out the graph and chart below:

MILITARY FORCES IN THE MIDDLE EAST 1989 - 2000




Interesting thought crossed my mind also as I studied these figures:

Those "mass graves" that they say are the result of Saddams killing his "own" people.

Could they not be some of the apparently over half a million military killed in Gulf War 1 ?

Just a thought.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 11:40 PM
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9. That's a nice graph.
It seems clear the resistance has the services of some
skilled fighters, and that a good portion of those we are
killing are cannon fodder being guided by more educated
leaders, otherwise it is difficult to explain the consistent
success of the Iraqi forces in stalling US offensives.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:40 AM
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12. Personally, I think what we are seeing now is Saddam's REAL offensive
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to the United States.

Whatever else, I don't believe Saddam is/was a stupid man.

heck, he had been contained with American planes, bombings, sanctions and UN inspectors for over a decade, so he KNEW that a "regular" war would be impossible to win.

Saddam's war has just begun.

The USA has lost alot of World support, so in THAT sense, Saddam is already "winning".

And now Saddam's people are hating the "liberators" so another "win" for Saddam.

The "resistance" has just begun, and the USA are just walking right into it.

IF the USA had quickly given over power and freedom after tearing down Saddam's statue a year ago, _ YEAH - a YEAR ago, don't think the Iraqis haven't noticed, the USA might have some credibility.

They didn't, and they don't.

Now many more will die.

All for democracy

Right George?????

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:11 AM
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14. Yeah, I agree.
Some of us here remember a story from before the war
about how Saddam was reading Gen. Giap's book on the VietNam
conflict, kept it on his nightstand. He's got to be chuckling
in his cell if he gets any news.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/089875371...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:26 AM
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15. Maybe they'll attack on Friday during the prayer service
That will be fresh</sarcasm>
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:14 AM
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10. So, Bremer's visit was probably a prelude to a bloodbath
But BFEE will say, "we sent Bremer and everything - what more could we do", when the world recoils in revulsion.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 12:22 AM
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11. Kimmitt is nothing more than what falls out of the north end of a...
...south-bound farm animal.

The man is a life-threatening hazard to his own troops.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 02:05 AM
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13. KRAZY KILLER KIMMITT


KRAZY KILLER KIMMITT enforcer for the Viceroy Pontius Bremer I

His quote " if you dont like watching women and children die, change the channel."
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:52 AM
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16. The WMD's are in Fallujah!
Well, maybe they are! We won't know for sure till we kill everybody in there and bomb it to rubble, so LETS ROLL! YEEHA!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:09 AM
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17. They can't "liberate" Fallujah without destroying it
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 10:22 AM by rocknation
but any resemblance to Viet Nam is purely coincidental.

"What is strongly represented as a gallant, noble resistance operation inside Fallujah is nothing more than foreign fighters and former (Saddam loyalists), who are holding that city hostage," Kimmitt said.

It THAT was really true, they would have LONG SINCE gone in and wiped it out! They're just trying to pre-justify the high number of U.S. casualties they know would result. And by the way, I understand that some of Saddam's "loyalists" may be joining the "new" Iraqi military!

:headbang:
rocknation

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