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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:30 PM
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Army says missing Greensboro reservist is dead (Sgt. Elmer Krause)
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 06:37 PM by VolcanoJen
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...

An Army reservist from Greensboro who had been missing in Iraq since his convoy was attacked April 9 has been confirmed dead, the military announced Saturday.

The remains of Sgt. Elmer Krause were found Friday, according to a statement from the Department of Defense.


Link to DoD "Change-in-Status" Report here:

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2004/nr20040424-066...

Very, very sad news. Sgt. Krause was the other soldier from the 724th Transportation Company, captured with Pfc. Matt Maupin, the Cincinnati soldier who remains missing, but was seen last week with his kidnappers on videotape. Also kidnapped with the two was Halliburton contractor Thomas Hamill, seen on a separate videotape.

This does not bode well for Hammill or Pfc. Maupin. Cincinnati is blanketed in yellow ribbons for Matt, and his family is distraught. What horrible news for all of the families. :-(




It's hard sometimes, and I'm not the yellow-ribbon type, but I'm trying not to let my cynicism get in the way of feeling for these families.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:34 PM
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1. Okay, I'm going to say it.
This doesn't sound like any American military offensive that I've ever heard of. What the frick frack is going on in Iraq! Too many private corporate interests and not enough military discipline.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 09:22 PM
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16. I will tell you whats going on. Too few troops and chaos.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 10:15 AM
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24. I'm sure you mean, too MUCH chaos.
Did you notice how the Iraqi's are attacking the contractors in Iraq? Do you think that there's a breakdown in trust because they feel they're being exploited?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:35 PM
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2. Sad news Jen Horrible news
This death is laid at the feet of the Cowardly AWOL CHIMPANZEE and the entire family of bush criminals.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:43 PM
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3. I hate Bush more everyday.
Every friggin' day.

Hurry, November.


:grr:

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 06:54 PM
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4. This soldier was killed by the Bush administration. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:19 PM
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5. I'm alarmed at what was left out.
Where was he found. In how many pieces. Was he tortured? Shot? Burned?

Way too much left out.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:21 PM
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7. "This incident remains under investigation."
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 07:22 PM by VolcanoJen
That's likely where this issue will remain for the duration of the war, actually. :grr:

Yes, aquart, far too many details have been left out, and now we have so many more questions when it comes to the whereabouts of Maupin and Hamill.

:-(
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:22 PM
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8. They won't tell you It may arouse the SHEEP from their slumber
And by the way is your son available for the draft</sarcasm>
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:12 PM
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11. Of course..
The emails from DOD always say "under investigation"! How many families have been lied to?--ALL of them!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:21 PM
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6. my hometown soldier.....
RIP Sgt. Krause... You NEVER should have been in harm's way for the aWol* chimp*s half-assed fucking OIL WAR!!!
I am Soooo sad for his son and family... :cry:
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 07:35 PM
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9. How Many More?
How many more young men must lose their lives before Shrub starts paying attention and tries to recitfy his mistake?


Kukesa
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:10 PM
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10. Many many more.
And he will never pay attention and never care.

How close to the bottom to we have to fall before we get rid, not just of BushCo, but its enabling Congress.

How sad will I be if Daschle loses his seat?

I sent the link to the photos from the other post to my little list. The more we spread them.... I remember Viet Nam and Johnson and Nixon and the gathering rage.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:15 PM
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12. aquart... please tell me we won't have to see deaths in the 50K's...
... before the rage gathers. Please reassure me. Please??? Even if you have to lie to me... I'm used to it, anyway.

I was only a tot when Vietnam was raging... how many must die before this nation wakes the hell up???
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 10:22 PM
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18. Jen, it has to hit home
its not hitting home for a lot of people...they are turning the channel, they dont want to see in the mirror themselves, and what they have allowed.
They prefer denial.
I hope it doesnt take that many. I sure hope not.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:20 PM
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14. Gathering Rage . . .
I remember all that as well, aquart. And I'm beginning to feel just a little of that same sense now. I spoke with three people today who are Repugs but now are having some second thoughts. Just a little undertow of thought and feelings . . . they're sorry they voted the way they did.

We must never give up.

Kukesa
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:17 PM
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13. Found Friday or confirmed Friday?
I remember when this first happened they found a shallow grave nearby with several bodies in it. Reports said that one was a US soldier.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 08:30 PM
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15. Found Friday. Confirmed Saturday.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 08:31 PM by VolcanoJen
According to the Herald Tribune article linked in the thread-starting post.

Who knows, though...? I'm way beyond putting any trust behind the DoD.

Good memory, alcuno. It's going to take thousands of us to keep the DoD on their toes... and we must never, ever forget about the missing, and the prisoners. We HAVE to start logging these mysteries NOW.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 09:47 PM
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17. There was video on Al Jazeera.
Before they found the shallow grave. There was a boy holding a piece of a military uniform. From what I could see of Maupin, it didn't belong to him. Besides they said that one of the bodies in the shallow grave was likely a US soldier since he had military gear. I don't believe that the body was found on Friday. I remember the name of this soldier and thought at the time that it must be him.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-04 11:04 PM
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19. alcuno, thank you so very much for your description of the reports.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-04 11:04 PM by VolcanoJen
It's going to take a long time for us to piece the MIA/KIA/POW picture together. I'm bookmarking this thread.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:01 AM
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20. Bush will only "negotiate" with terrorists when it serves his own needs
Edited on Sun Apr-25-04 01:02 AM by lebkuchen
Screw the "cannon fodder" that the NG/Reserves/enlisted are considered "nothing more than" under this administration.

Thanks for the report, VolcanoJen.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 01:49 AM
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21. Deepest regrets from N.C. I was...
hoping against hope that he would be found alive. This doesn't look good for the others either. This war has to end, Bush has to go.
Here is another link to Sgt. Elmer Karuse:

http://newsobserver.com/front/story/3538151p-3141350c.h...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 07:36 AM
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22. He would have been 41 years old today....
I hate that fucking aWol* asswipe in the WH... :cry:

http://www.news-record.com/news/now/missing042104.htm


RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) An Army reservist from Greensboro, missing in Iraq since his convoy was attacked April 9, was confirmed dead Saturday - a day before his 41st birthday.

The remains of Sgt. Elmer Krause were found Friday, according to a statement from the Department of Defense. He was assigned to the Army Reserve's 724th Transportation Company, Bartonville, Ill.

Krause grew up in Vallejo, east of San Francisco, according to his brother. He previously served in the U.S. Navy and moved to Greensboro four or five years ago, where friends said he worked as a painter at Timco Aviation Services.

``He went over there and he didn't express any regrets. He expressed no concern about going over. He said in a conversation with me, 'I'm not afraid to go,''' Krause's older brother, Jim, told reporters at the entrance to Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, Calif.

Jim Krause, 51, said his brother said he hoped to provide leadership to younger soldiers.

``His birthday would have been tomorrow. He was more than 40 years old and going over to fight,'' he said. ``We grieve his loss. This is difficult for us, but his determination strengthens us.''

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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 09:24 AM
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23. Leadership to younger soldiers . . .
It seems as though they're being led to their death.

How terribly, terribly, sad.

Kukesa
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