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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:53 PM
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GOP senator calls for changing automatic spending cuts
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 04:20 PM by jpak
Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) -- Republican Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania called Sunday for reconfiguring the automatic spending cuts required by Congress due to last week's failure by the special joint deficit reduction committee to reach a deal.

Toomey, a member of the so-called "super committee," told the ABC program "This Week" that he wanted to change the formula for making $1.2 trillion in budget cuts mandated under legislation passed in August.

The law, which Toomey opposed, said the cuts must be evenly divided between the military and domestic spending. Social Security, Medicaid, food stamps, veterans' benefits and other politically sensitive programs are spared the budget ax.

Toomey expressed the view of conservatives that the required cuts were weighted too heavily toward the military. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, a Democrat, also has warned that the automatic cuts will undermine military capability.

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Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/27/politics/congress-super-c...



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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:04 PM
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1. Cuts for the Military they want to use against the Jilted Citizens
funny you should mention that
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:06 PM
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2. We knew this would happen.
Good reason to get out and vote.
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W T F Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:08 PM
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3. Too bad!
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:12 PM
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4. I am ashamed for my state and the losers that voted him in.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:13 PM
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5. How did that Jr. Senator even get on the Super Committee in the first place?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:06 AM
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32. My guess would be his resume as former president of Club for Growth and his
friend Richard Mellon Scaife.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:21 AM
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33. Easy, the only thing they had to do to get on was agree to say "no" to any proposal
from the dems even if it was a simple vote to order more toilet paper.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:16 PM
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15. Too many voters stayed home. Hopefully he'll be a one term
Senator.
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Marie Marie Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:11 PM
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26. Ditto from another PA-er!
I hang my head in shame for my state. He is the worst.
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:16 PM
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6. Obama has said he will veto any such attempt....
Since we know the pukes will not do anything to help Main Street prior to next year's elections, believing that the Koch brothers and the other uber-wealthy will help them buy the 2012 cycle, I say let them sit in their own stew.

The funny thing is these cuts will not take effect until 2013 so should the pukes take the WH and Senate majority and retain the House, they could make these changes then. Of course I certainly hope if that is the case the Democrats use the threat of filibuster to prevent anything from getting through the Senate.

First of all the military needs to be cut by AT LEAST 50% overall, not just 50% of the $1.2 trillion but the entire military budget needs to be cut in half. We do not need to spend the amount we do on the military. The only reason we do is because both the Democrats and the Republics are bought and paid for by the defense industries.

And as they attempt to make these changes I hope the Dems are recording every one of these appearances so they can be used against the pukes in 2012 - pukes = military industrial complex, dems = main street.
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krucial Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:44 PM
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19. Cut the military by 50%
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 07:47 PM by krucial
You sir are correct.
If we do that we save lives, limbs, stop the death and destruction and occupation of those we keep trying to control,we would stop creating endless number of enemies that we will not have to go kill later on.it would also lessen the threat of us being all taken out,and down when our military conflicts get out of hand and involve all the other nuclear power,and us all out in a nuclear meltdown.

The problem is I don't know if american leaders can ever carry on without war or military conflict somewhere over the globe,Check our history from the 1800 and you will see that we are a nation that loves and glorify war and military,and alway have the need for blood lust,and need to be killing someone anywhere for something,and anything.Too bad for Arabs/Muslims, for the last 30 years are so Arabs and Muslims have been our favorite people to kill.
Of all the other leading industrial nations,we are the only ones that have been killing Arabs and Muslims for a while,and we try every way not to end our occupation and leave them and their land alone,feeling that we have a divine right to be on anyones land,anywhere we feel,and stay there as long as we feel like it.All most of them want,os for foreign occupiers to leave therm alone,and as long as we insist in staying in their land and kill them,they will always look for a way to kill americans anyway they can,and so many of us feel that the Arabs have no right to try and get us out of their own land,and feel we should wipe them out if they resist,I hear that many times from the right wing and many israeli supporters
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:23 AM
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34. If you mean the budget by 50% then I agree, its just criminal tha we are spending billions more than
china and russia combined are spending.
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:36 PM
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7. something for the obama-did-x- so-nows-he's-lost-my-vote crowd to keep in mind
this was theirplan all along during the run upto voting the repubes will be screaming about dems being weak on defense by forcing the repubes to live with the deal they signed off on.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:28 PM
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21. But Obama pledged to VETO any attempts to alter the supercommittee failure
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:06 PM
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37. yes excpt the cuts dont go into effect till 2013
no obama in 2013 no cuts to the military but you bet grannies ass that the social cuts will remain intact.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:40 PM
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8. Of course Tommey and the GOP can say whatever they want.. getting it thourgh congress and..
through a veto is another matter entirely.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 04:47 PM
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9. No more special rights for pampered defense contractors
Their decade of gluttony is over.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:25 PM
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10. One word
"Tough"

Had you done your job, you wouldn't be in this position.......
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:18 PM
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11. Prediction: Military cuts will be nearly eliminated. Bush/Obama tax
cuts will be renewed
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:48 PM
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13. You're right, of course. But we must now endure the silly theater.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:29 PM
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12. They undermine military capability?
No they reign it in. It is too militarily capable as it stands. It is deployed all over the world against the will of the citizens in most cases.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:04 PM
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14. this is why
you can't compromise with the Republicans. That is because it is never really a compromise on their part. They agree to it figuring they have the upper hand and will get most if not all of what they want. When it doesn't work out they just turn around and say they don't like the original agreement, do everything they can to undo it, and go right back to doing the same help the rich and screw everybody else act. Look at the Bush tax cuts the Republicans agree to a temporary cut with a definite expiration date. When that date gets here they whine and moan until they get an extension with the tacit agreement that there will be a new expiration date. Then what do they do? They start pushing to make the cuts permanent. Same here, agree to Super Committee figuring they will run roughshod over the Democrats and get lots of social program cuts with little or no revenue and little or no cuts in the military. It doesn't work out that way so they want to now back out of the whole deal.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:25 PM
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16. President Norquist doesn't like the automatic spending cuts
President Norquist wanted social spending eliminated. That's not what he got, so he's sending his Minions (most Republicans are like Gru's childlike, yellow, rubber-bodied employees in Despicable Me, so it's an apt name) to demand the automatic cuts be rescinded.
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:28 PM
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17. This Reflects Bad Faith Negotiations
On the part of Toomey and the Republicans. Last August the choices were clear. Either the Super Committee comes up with at least $1.5 trillion in spending cuts and tax increases or there would be automatic cuts in spending divided 50-50 between defense and non-defense. Toomey is now saying he wants neither. This is bad faith barginning of the highest order. First you agree to something you have no intention of honoring and then blame the other side. This is what skunks do. Like Obama said the other day, there is no easy off-ramp -- which is exactly what Toomey the skunk is pleading for now.
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jerseyjack Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:37 PM
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18. Fuck Toomey like he wants to fuck us.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:21 PM
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20. Doomey is a Bagger...enough said about that.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:48 PM
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22. Then maybe
Ya oughta have been willing to make a deal to prevent the cuts you didnt like. Or even just not agreed to them in the first place, mr Toomey.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:55 PM
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23. the military cuts don't go anywhere near far enough.
we should be slashing it by 50% or more.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:58 PM
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24. Well maybe then they should have worked for the american people rather than their party.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:15 PM
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25. "...automatic cuts will undermine military capability."
....maybe a little less military capability will translate into a little less war....
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:17 PM
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27. well gee pat
don't suppose you've got ears about the 99 % down there. oh wait duh...

you don't have ears... your Mr Anderson?? most of the wasteful spending is in the military. then again most of the wasteful spending has been evicting occupiers doing their first amendment rights.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:18 PM
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28. "Social Security, Medicaid,..."
"Social Security, Medicaid, food stamps, veterans' benefits and other politically sensitive programs are spared the budget ax."

This is good news.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:19 PM
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29. Tough shit asshole..nt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:02 AM
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30. Leon is a Bushbot!
Privatize the Pentagon!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:05 AM
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31. Of course he would, and next will be Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
Toomey is a Scaife (Richard Mellon Scaife) plant, and is only concerned about the wealthy. He would use the military cuts as a point to cuts all services to the elderly on Medicare, programs for the poor and additional burdens on the middle class.
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MarcoS Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:26 AM
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35. "The view of conservatives"
Uh, TRUE conservatives are claiming we need to cut defense spending BY HALF:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10152

Toomey like all senators is a corrupt asshole. Take a look at who pays for their campaigns.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:20 PM
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36. fuck you, Toomey. GOP's love to change the rules when the game doesn't end in their favor.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 03:21 PM by BlancheSplanchnik
piss off.
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red dog 1 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 06:27 PM
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38. I'm sure Ben Nelson will support Toomey & the other tea-bag Senate Republi-cons
He Always Does!
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