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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:10 PM
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Alleged pepper-spraying Walmart shopper surrenders
Source: MSNBC

Alleged pepper-spraying Walmart shopper surrenders


By msnbc.com wire reports

A shopper who allegedly fired pepper spray at other customers during a Black Friday sale for Xbox video games has surrendered to authorities, Los Angeles police said Saturday.

Police Sgt. Jose Valle told the Associated Press that the woman who allegedly caused minor injuries to 20 shoppers, including children, at a Los Angeles-area Walmart had turned herself in Friday night.

She was not in custody, but could face battery charges, Valle said. The woman's identity was not released. Police said they would release more details later Saturday.

The alleged attack took place about 10:20 p.m. Thursday, shortly after doors opened for the sale. Employees brought out a crate of discounted Xbox video game players, and a crowd formed to wait for the unwrapping. Valle said the woman began spraying people in order to get an advantage.



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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:27 PM
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1. This is so pathetic. In light of this, I'd like to say what my family decided we'd do for Xmas...
We made an agreement that we'd all buy books for one another, preferably USED. The surprise will be in WHICH book we chose for one another. A fascinating way of getting to know one another better, and a fun way to be exposed to a topic the other person would like us to read.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:29 PM
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2. I think that is a great idea!
I love giving my rightwing relatives something genuine to read.
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:54 PM
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11. I love it!.....but
What are you going to do if they give you one of Glen Becks', or Sarah Palin's abominations to read in return? For me, the urge to hurl all over it would be more than I could resist. :puke:
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:31 AM
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35. You'll be a lot happier if you read only books that agree with your
position. Why step out of your comfort level and read up on what the opposition is saying? After all, knowing your opponent never got anyone anywhere, did it? And we all know that "friendly publications" are wholly unbiased. :sarcasm:
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:09 PM
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38. Yeah, I learn SO MUCH about the history and neurobiology of the right from reading Glenn Beck.
It just makes me so much a better person that I can't restrain my joy.

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:06 PM
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39. Read whomever you want but if you want to debate intelligently,
primary sources are better than secondary or tertiary because you lose the filter. This isn't really about whether you needs to get warm fuzzy feelings because you agree (I suppose some do) but whether you need to be accurate about what your friends and opponents alike actually say.
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:45 PM
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41. It would seem that you would relish *any* piece of fecal matter whose pages have been bound together
and given the nomenclature of "book". In addition, what a person loosely considers to be their valid or invalid ideas does not necessarily become worthy of consideration by intelligent life on this planet, simply because there is a publisher who thinks he can make a financial profit by selling them. Unfortunately, it is the situation in life where there are many among us who would seek to swindle financial profit from the masses, while at the same time give their ideas legitimacy, merely because there is another person who thinks they can also make a financial profit from the sale of those ideas, irregardless of how much those ideas may or may not make sense.

While I can on the one hand appreciate the seriousness with which you consider anyone who may think differently than you do, I on the other hand do not feel the need to feel secure in my thinking by being able to convert anyone who may disagree with me. There are all kinds of wacko people on this planet whose insane ways of thinking you will never be able to convert. You need to get used to it and get on with those things in your life that really matter.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:02 PM
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44. I'll defer to your considerable expertise on fecal matter. Eat what
you eat and don't place those judgments on others. My post contained no degree of relish or non-relish. I know that intelligence officers spend years researching the other guys so that they can advise planners, operators and commanders regarding their capabilities and intentions. Good intelligence officers don't rely only on sources with which they agree. The best ones read 1st hand sources in their sources native languages.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:34 PM
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13. Give 'em David Swanson's 'War Is A Lie.' If they'll submit to reading something like that.
It's heavy stuff.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 05:06 PM
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22. or Glenn Greenwalds "Justice and Liberty For Some"
it's a great read.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 05:29 PM
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24. But would they read it?
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:13 PM
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28. Or - here's an idea! - skip the political force-feeding and give them a book they want.
Your idea reminds me of one of my born-again relatives whose "gifts" are usually books espousing fundamentalist theology.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:36 PM
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15. That's wonderful! There is 1 (yes, only one lol) right wingnut in my family...
but oh boy am I going to enjoy giving HIM a book! :)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 05:29 PM
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23. The Bible is alway a new one.
Gutenberg was a communist!

:patriot:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:36 PM
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3. That's the BEST gift exchange idea
I've ever heard of.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:36 PM
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16. Thank you, my friend. I wish most people would do something like that. It would change...
the spirit of the holidays to a far more meaningful one.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:36 PM
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17. DUPLICATE POST nt
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 03:41 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:35 PM
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9. We do that with CDs! nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:37 PM
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19. Ooh used CDs are a great idea!! nt
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 07:18 PM
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26. Used CDs and pot luck dinner
Put everything on shuffle and party! That's my idea of a fun holiday....I'm tired of this notion the ads feed us every year that unless you load up your credit card you aren't being festive.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:14 PM
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29. Awesome idea. n/t
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:22 PM
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30. a really good book that my sister gave me is "Lost Island of Maps"
who knew? Quite sad actually, all the people who go to libraries and use an exacto knife and cut out maps :(
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:48 PM
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31. Used books are my business. Good for you!
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:47 PM
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4. Why is she not in custody? Why are they hiding her identity?
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 01:48 PM by Bette Noir
I wonder whether this is someone I know.

edited for typo.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:42 PM
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10. Maybe her name is Koch?
Might be a relative....
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:35 PM
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14. Then she'll never have to answer for it...
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:05 AM
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37. Because pepper spray is only a food product!
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Tyrs WolfDaemon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:50 PM
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5. What's the problem? According to Fox, Pepper Spray is a food
She was obviously just trying to make sure everyone was getting their veggies for the day.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:52 PM
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6. Ya - just add "Chicken Wings" and its perfectly harmless
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 01:55 PM
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7. Cool!
...now...

Pepper Spray in HER face!

or

Twenty Lashes!

or

She gets to be the Greeter position and 1,000 STOOPID people are gonna ask her STOOPID questions.
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:59 PM
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12. Yes, like asking the question, "In what isle are the video games?"
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:20 PM
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8. Perhaps she watches too much Fox News....

maybe she thought that pepper spraying people was hilarious.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:37 PM
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18. That's a good bet.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:44 PM
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20. I would like to add (for those that wish to exchange used books for Xmas rather than buy new gifts)
That libraries sometimes have a books for sale section. You can get books there for $1.00 or $2.00.

Goodwill has books for sale at $3, $4, $5 and $6. Figure out what your family members like to do, think, enjoy reading, etc., and go get them a used book, wrap it book with lots of care (and if possible used paper wrapping or paper bags, color them, or tie them with whatever you can find), and you'll see they'll like it.

If you want to go to a book exchange, they have books cheap there also, and you'll be supporting a small business on this, Small Business Saturday!

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 04:08 PM
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21. Hey, at least when I got pepper-sprayed...
it was at an Occupy movement for renewal of our democracy, not for cheap made-in-China plastic shit at Walmart.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 07:26 PM
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27. AND I'll bet it was police grade burnin'. Not the wimpy junk they
allow citizens to acquire...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 06:00 PM
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25. This is why I virulently HATE Consumerism.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:27 AM
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32. What Would Jesus Do?
Remember that guy - "The reason for the season???"

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:33 AM
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33. The zombie consumer poster child.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:18 AM
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34. Do we have a picture for the poster yet?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:01 AM
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36. I have not seen one let me know if you do.
IT could be copy and pasted with a poster from the Walking Dead and a Walmart poster.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:49 PM
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40. Must have... plastic crap... Must have... plastic crap...
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 10:53 AM
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42. Cheap plastic crap from China, foam at the mouth, cheap plastic crap from China.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 11:24 AM
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43. Must have it for a moment in time, on its way to the landfill, life is meaningless without it..
Howls like a banshee... Begins twitching...
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