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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:13 AM
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Pakistani Suspected Of Boiling Husbandís Flesh
Source: Salon.com

Friday, Nov 25, 2011 4:24 AM Eastern Standard Time

By Ashraf Khan, Associated Press

KARACHI, Pakistan (AP) ó Police say they have arrested a woman in the southern Pakistani city of Karachi suspected of murdering her husband, then chopping his body into pieces and boiling them to try to get rid of the evidence.

Police officer Khalid Nadeem Baig said Friday that 42-year-old Zainab Bibi told authorities she killed her husband because he tried to sexually assault her 17-year-old daughter from another marriage.

Baig said Bibi sedated her husband by mixing sleeping pills in his tea and strangled him with rope. She and her nephew allegedly cut up her husband and boiled the flesh.

Police say they discovered her plot after neighbors complained about a bad smell coming from her home. They also arrested the nephew.


Read more: http://www.salon.com/2011/11/25/pakistani_suspected_of_... /



Ouch. *winces*
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:29 AM
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1. It's about time the women in that godforsaken culture start fighting back.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:55 AM
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2. Oh, yeah, murder's fucking awesome.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!? If a neighbour of yours did this, would you just be like, "time she started fighting back", or would it absolutely scare the shit out of you?!?!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:03 PM
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3. You realize that she doesnt have any other way to fight back right?
She can't call the police.... she and her daughter would end up dead.......
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:11 PM
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33. Are you sure Pakistan is also like that? I thought Pakistan had a woman prime-minister
some 20 years ago. We're not even close!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:18 PM
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55. Yes- that area is like that and more and more areas are becoming like that
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:13 PM
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64. Assuming of course she's telling the truth
and the daughter's assault isn't some smokescreen story...
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:03 PM
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15. It is awesome, if it stops
a sick piece of shit like that.

She was desperate, obviously.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:02 PM
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18. Well, there you go.
As per usual on DU, allegation = fact. I'm sure you'd agree that in the US, the suggestion of a sexual advance is worthy of the death penalty. I imagine that we should just kill most people in US prisons, right? Killing people is great, right? Why not bring back stoning? The fucking bastards deserve it, don't they? After the stoning, I think we should also desecrate the bodies. Don't you agree?

I only suggest this, because I'm sure you'd feel the same way about a story concerning the police in the US arresting a man for killing and boiling his wife (stupid police, the bitch obviously deserved it, or it wouldn't have happened - obviously). It's just awesome!! Fuck the law. Fuck decency. Give us entertainment.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:22 AM
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21. yes, women in the states = women in Pakistan.
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 11:23 AM by bitchkitty
Why, just now I had the worst fucking trouble - my hijab blew off in the wind and showed my hair and I got arrested. Now, bad luck that a neighbor saw me and told my brothers, and now they're looking for me with a jar of acid.

Disingenuous asshole.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:48 AM
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22. Xenophobia is not becoming.
Do you understand that Pakistan isn't some frightening "evil empire"? I get it that Bush sold you and most Americans on the fact that every country with a Muslim majority was some sort of wicked place, just as Reagan did about communism two decades earlier, but it's not true. Do you get that Pakistan is in fact a place full of educated and cultured men and women? That it has universities where women are educated to be doctors, lawyers, etc.? Hmm... which country had a woman president first? Was it the US before Pakistan? I guess she was just there at the behest of her husband.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 12:21 PM
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23. On the whole, no it's not a "frightening evil empire."
And it's not Islam that is the problem. It's the acceptance by some of the crimes against women that is the problem. Acceptance by average people like you, and by those in power the world over. If it were white men being tortured and subjugated, you bet your ass we'd be on it in a flash.

I don't really find it 'awesome' that she was driven to murder, I'm not a monster. But the lack of any kind of REAL help for women the world over is disgusting, and I'm fucking tired of it.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 12:41 PM
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25. Murder is obviously the solution then.
So many abused women have obviously been doing it wrong. They should have just murdered the men abusing them and then tried to cover up the act. Is that reasonable? There's a very simple thing that was drilled into my head from an early age: two wrongs ≠ one right.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:19 PM
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26. It was her solution.
Again, I don't condone murder. But if she had to choose between committing murder, and her daughter being sexually assaulted, then I'm not going to judge her for the choice she made.

Of course, she could have just gone to the police and reported him. I'm sure they would have believed her and rushed to her aid, and her daughter would not be persecuted for being a rape victim. Um, yea, that's the ticket...

Your morals just don't fit in some situations, lofty as they may be.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:52 PM
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28. Nice false dichotomy.
Again you come out with some xenophobic rationalization for murder. The world is a complicated place, and it's full of lots of really fucked up people. I think a murderer who boils the dismembered corpse of their victim is more fucked up than a hypothetical, evil, brown policeman. Can you understand that in a conflict, one party isn't necessarily in the right? There is no need to defend a murderer just because their victim may have been a criminal as well.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:51 PM
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30. It's not like she was serving him up at the dinner table.
She was trying to get rid of the corpse. If I had been in her shoes I probably would have poisoned him instead. It would certainly have been a lot less messy, and a lot easier to get away with.

Murder is murder, but there are degrees to everything. She was saving her child.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:19 PM
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35. Wow!! What a difference.
You would murder someone in a cold, premeditated way. Most people wouldn't. You're a rare breed, and now I understand your sympathy with this insane murderer.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 08:50 AM
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73. I guess you'd just clutch your pearls
in her situation and give your daughter lessons on how to please her man? Now I understand your callousness towards a young girl.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 11:48 AM
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74. Oh, yeah, I'm totally pro-rape.
Ok, that was a lie. I am capable of carrying around two thoughts in my head at the same time: 1. rape is wrong, and 2. murder is wrong. I can also walk and chew gum at the same time! I'm not so good at simultaneously rubbing my belly and patting my head, though I am getting better at it.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:18 PM
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76. Oh, I'm sure you're capable of something.
But evidently you are not capable of feeling the unconditional love that normal women, who will do ANYTHING to protect their chidren, feel.

That's cool, it takes all kinds. Just please, don't have children. You're obviously not up to it.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:31 PM
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59. What happens in Pakistan if a woman goes to the police and reports her husband
For trying to have sex with her daughter? or for raping her? or for beating her? What are the usual results there?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:49 PM
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60. As I said, xenophobia is not becoming.
Karachi is a massive cosmopolitan city. It is full of people of different languages, ethnicities, religions, etc. Somehow, most of them don't use murder as a solution to their problems. Particularly, not a grizzly premeditated murder. The dead man... ? Well, we don't know his side of the story, because he was drugged, strangled, and once dead, chopped up into pieces. I want you to imagine someone doing that. Really. Take a minute to think about that. That's some fucked up serial killer shit. If that happened in the US, you would not think it was ok. Motivation? Who fucking cares? You think murder is ok because the culture is different? Fuck... it's a different culture - maybe rape is ok there too, huh? No. Some shit is just wrong.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:46 PM
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66. It is not xenophobia to discuss what Pakistan's laws may be
There's good reason to suspect they may not be fair to women.

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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:57 PM
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70. You mean the country that had a female head of government 20 years ago? nt.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 04:01 PM
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71. That alone doesn't prove much
On how ordinary women are treated.

Elizabeth Tudor was Queen of England, but that didn't mean women in England at the time had any rights to speak of.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 05:28 PM
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72. I think it proves a lot.
It proves, for instance, that a majority of the people are happy to elect a woman to lead them. I don't think that's a sign of a culture that has zero respect for women. Are things as good for women in Pakistan, on average, as they are in many western countries? I doubt it. I do, however, know for an absolute fact, that a woman viciously murdering someone and disposing of the body is not ok under any circumstances.
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MindMover Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:35 AM
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50. Thankfully, you are not her neighbor.....nt
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:25 AM
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53. Nah, I think I'm fine with it too...Fuck the fundies
Maybe if about half the women in Packistan did this the other idiot fundie nuts would get a clue and change their ways.


Yeah, I'm actaully really fine with this the more I think about it. Oh, and quit comparing American society to a backwards POS country like Packistan. It's a strawman who ought to be used to start a fire :)
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 11:10 AM
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54. Ahhh.... yes....
"backwards" Pakistan, where most people have a better command of the English language than you do.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:54 PM
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63. By most people are you saying 51% or 98%?
Just the fundies or everybody included?

Oh, and you are able to garner from just an anyonomous post on the Intertubes a person's first language? You my friend are one badass :rofl:
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:41 PM
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65. I'm able to spell the name of the country I'm writing a post about. nt.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:47 PM
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67. typographical errors and having the ability to spell are two different things
And, your remark was stating that most of the people of Pakistan are better in English. You said nothing about yourself, are you able to stay on topic?

R U Appy?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:53 PM
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68. that is neither here nor there on the issue
From State Dept. Human Rights Report:


http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/sca/154485.ht...


Women

Rape, other than by one's spouse, is a criminal offense, with punishment that ranges from a minimum of 10 to 25 years in prison and a fine to the death penalty. The penalty for gang rape is either death or life imprisonment, but sentences were often less severe. Although rape was frequent, prosecutions were rare.

According to a 2008 HRCP report, 80 percent of wives in rural Punjab feared violence from their husbands, and nearly 50 percent of wives in developed urban areas admitted that their husbands beat them.

Women who tried to report abuse faced serious challenges. Police and judges were sometimes reluctant to take action in domestic violence cases, viewing them as family problems. Instead of filing charges, police typically responded by encouraging the parties to reconcile. Abused women usually were returned to their abusive family members. Women were reluctant to pursue charges because of the stigma attached to divorce and their economic and psychological dependence on relatives. Relatives were hesitant to report abuse due to fear of dishonoring the family.

Slightly more than 50 percent of the population over the age of 10 is literate. More than 40 percent of girls never enroll in school.


And a lot more at that link.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:51 PM
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5. My initial response was to say "In before someone says he must have driven her to it"
But I think the first reply here covers it.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:28 PM
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12. The article says he tried to sexually assault her underage daughter.
That said, I don't really approve of her behavior: if somebody laid a hand on my kid I'd do a better job of hiding the body.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 07:59 AM
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52. I read it. The allegation against the man is very serious indeed.
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 08:00 AM by slackmaster
Of course it doesn't justify murdering him.

Pakistan does have a functioning criminal justice system. That is the only proper venue for determining if he actually did what he was accused of, and if so what punishment is called for under the law.
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_eh Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 03:00 PM
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14. "Godforsaken culture"?
What about a culture that uses women to sell cars and beer?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:04 PM
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19. Oh, no! Don't break the unwritten rules!!
See, these brown people just can't sort out right from wrong for themselves and need self-righteous Americans to give a thumbs up or thumbs down to how they sort out crime.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:55 PM
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69. That does not even begin to compare
With honor killings or forced marriages.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:44 PM
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39. Wonder if his name was Earl.
:evilgrin:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:12 PM
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4. Police say they discovered her plot ... complained about a bad smell coming from her home.
Not enough garlic perhaps?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 04:29 PM
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10. In Karachi? Almost certainly not enough.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:20 PM
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7. My wife is aghast...
she says husbands are best served broiled... with a lot of garlic.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 04:12 PM
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8. Mine would argue for tartare with just a bit of onion.
Cuts prep time wayyyyyyyy down.

Why yes, I do try to be an attentive husband. Why do you ask?


Seriously, I doubt I could ever convict a woman driven to these ends.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 04:25 PM
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9. Mine would make a big paella
Edited on Fri Nov-25-11 04:25 PM by NickB79
Damn Puerto Ricans.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:51 PM
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61. And of course, a nice chianti! n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:24 PM
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11. The secret's in the sauce. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 02:55 PM
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13. She should have known the trick....
The secret's in the sauce, after all!

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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:16 PM
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16. there is a moral to the story....
....if you piss-off your Pakistani wife, you could end up in hot water....
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:02 PM
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32. +5578
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 08:20 PM
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17. like Fried Green Tomatoes?
where a guy was chopped up into barbeque?
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MindMover Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:09 PM
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20. This guy didn't know when to quit.....
I really think he got what was coming to him.....only in Pakistan....now what about Sandusky.....????
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 03:47 PM
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29. I wonder what you would do to Socrates
if he were alive and living in this country today?
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MindMover Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 07:17 PM
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34. so are you comparing Socrates to these guys????
If you are talking about the Socratic paradoxes that conflict with common sense then go ahead and justify your own actions with these old mans rants....

I prefer to look at what Socrates said about knowing nothing about noble and good, when he said "I know that I know nothing about noble and good."
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:21 PM
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37. Never Mind. It was just a passing thought.....
on another wavelength.
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MindMover Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:00 PM
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41. what, in another world....???
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41483660@N04/5941913645 /" title="web-image-6aaf1ada3a87e5165c187c830733d399 by pbmus, on Flickr"><img src="" width="439" height="500" alt="web-image-6aaf1ada3a87e5165c187c830733d399"></a>
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:56 PM
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42. Apparently, it would seem to you.
:crazy:
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MindMover Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:15 PM
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43. you were the one that referenced an old philosopher...
so explain yourself, if you can....
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left on green only Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:06 AM
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48. That is exactly where you lack the ability to do critical thinking
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 12:16 AM by left on green only
In my original response to your post, I drew your attention to what what was *done* to Socrates, not to any of the ideas from the thinking of Socrates, himself. Had you known what was done to him, or at least had the inclination to look it up, you would have completely understood what I was saying to you from the onset. Your inability to discern that, as well as your immature inclination to bicker with me has now disqualified you from our having any further dialog.
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MindMover Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:54 AM
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49. I will certainly miss our time together, struggling with the
intention of your conversation....

thinking that you could enlighten me with your gift of insight into why Socrates chose to die instead of escaping to some fine isle and blithering his nonsense on into ad nauseum....
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 06:55 PM
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31. it's acceptable because it happened in Pakistan where if she reported what he tried to do
she would probably be locked up , beaten up, killed or something else.

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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:20 PM
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36. Yay for xenophobia!! Brown people can't run their own countries!! nt.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:29 PM
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38. i am a brown person and there are places where government,justice system etc isfucked up corrupt
etc and pakistan is clearly one of them. even non brown countries like russia and some other former soviet states have issues.

your commment was fucking stupid
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:26 PM
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45. It works out just fine for most of the people there.
It's not some sort of lawless backwater. It's a modern country with modern, cultured, educated people. The fact that I have to keep pointing this out blows my mind.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:27 PM
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57. You are a female living in Pakistan?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:26 PM
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46. dupe.
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 10:27 PM by harmonicon
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:26 PM
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47. dupe.
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 10:26 PM by harmonicon
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:22 PM
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56. The only other choice the woman would have had was to allow him to rape her child
Alot of you do not understand that women in these places have no rights. They are treated as less valuable then animals. There is no "fleeing" because the authorities would bring them both right back to him.

Life for women in that part of the world is NOT in any manner of thinking comparable to life for women here.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 04:41 PM
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77. either that, or because he tried to sexually assault her daughter.
:eyes:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:23 PM
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27. Committing a crime in response to another crime is not justified. We cannot live by the law of the
Edited on Sun Nov-27-11 01:26 PM by totodeinhere
jungle. She might have been desperate, or maybe not. We don't have enough information to know that. But murder is wrong. If however she killed him in self defense that's not a crime and it's a different matter. Whether it is justified self defense is a matter for their legal system to sort out.

On edit. Come to think of it, even if she acted in self defense then cutting up her husband and boiling the flesh is probably nevertheless a crime and she should face justice for that. Of course that would be a less serious crime than murder and her punishment should be much less severe.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 08:46 PM
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40. It's only law when richie rich gets his ass into it.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 10:16 PM
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44. their legal system is fucked up where it comes to women
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 07:24 AM
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51. If I felt their legal system
was in any way fair to women, I'd agree with you.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 12:29 PM
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58. You can compare there to here though
What if there is no justice for women there. What if there is no way to find safety through the courts or the police? What if beating, raping and killing of women is looked upon as not that big a deal?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 01:52 PM
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62. But is "long pig" halal?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-11 12:05 PM
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75. Question is
did she use beef or chicken stock for the soup. :puke:
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