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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-11 11:14 PM
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Bali jails Australian boy over cannabis possession
Source: BBC

An Australian boy has been jailed for two months for possessing cannabis on the Indonesian island of Bali.

The case sparked an outcry in Australia, where the media argued the 14-year-old was too young to be jailed.

But Indonesian analysts hit back, criticising Australia for holding Indonesian youngsters in detention in people-smuggling cases.

The teenager, who has not been named, will serve the rest of his sentence at an immigration detention centre.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15884706
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:31 AM
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1. The usual penalty is death.
They stamp that on your passport on the way in.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 12:54 AM
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2. Not for the crime he committed.
And no they don't.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 02:55 AM
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6. Indonesia executes people caught with pot in Indonesia.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 03:41 AM
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7. Corby is not getting shot. Anyway, the boy in the OP was done for possession, not smuggling. n/t
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 04:25 AM
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8. No they don't...
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 04:25 AM by Violet_Crumble
They have imposed the death penalty on people who smuggle heroin into Indonesia, but even the overly hysterical and overblown Australian media don't claim that the death penalty is punishment for possessing a bit of dope. When it comes to Corby, regardless of my opinion that dope should be legalised, anyone who's stupid enough to smuggle it into another country, let alone one that has OTT prison sentences if yr caught, can enjoy their 20 years in Kerobokan without a shred of sympathy from me...
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:01 PM
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9. most people on death row in Indonesia are there for smuggling pot.
at last count, about 35 of the 51 people on death row.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-11 08:43 PM
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10. Cite your source for that stat. Anyway, you originally asserted people get executed for possession..
Edited on Mon Nov-28-11 08:46 PM by Turborama
...of pot, which is untrue.

"Indonesia executes people caught with pot in Indonesia."

Edited to add this informative link: http://goseasia.about.com/od/indonesia/a/Drug-Laws-In-B...
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:01 AM
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13. That source isn't backing up the claim you made
And that claim was that people are executed for possessing dope. They're not. That article you linked to was the same mindless crap peddled by sensationalistic shows like Today Tonight which focus on a dewey eyed and innocent Corby descending into a nightmare not of her own making. What bullshit. While I've got no sympathy for her, I've got a fair bit for the Bali Nine, who were screwed over by the Australian police, who not only allowed them to board a flight to Indonesia, but handed over details of their investigation to the Indonesian police, knowing full well that the death penalty was a likely sentence for them when they were arrested. This behaviour from the same country that wouldn't allow an American who murdered his wife on their honeymoon to be extradited back to the US because the US has the death penalty. Hypocrites...
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:36 AM
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14. They also said, apparently based on that 5 year old article...
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 05:13 AM by Turborama
... which was written at the height of the Corby hysteria:

"most people on death row in Indonesia are there for smuggling pot. at last count, about 35 of the 51 people on death row."

This is what the 5 year old article said (notice how vague it is, and how it doesn't cite any source itself):

There are currently 54 people listed on Indonesia's death row and 31 of the 54 have been convicted with drug charges. Two Thai nationals were killed by a firing squad in November 2004, after they were found guilty of smuggling heroin into Indonesia over 10 years ago. A 65 year old Indian man was also killed in 2004 for drug charges after his appeal for clemency was denied. Seven others with drug charges have had their last appeals for mercy denied and are now scheduled for execution.


It quite obvious what those "drug charges" are likely to be when looking at the actual laws themselves: http://goseasia.about.com/od/indonesia/a/Drug-Laws-In-B...
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 04:52 AM
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15. Thanks for posting that link, Turbo...
Much more informative than the sensationalist babble in the other link in this thread....

Selamat Sore :hi:
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Fokker Trip Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:09 AM
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3. I`ve never been to Bali but...
From the pictures it looks like the only way it could be more heavenly would be if one had a little ganja to smoke and enjoy the sunset.

Ahh Indonesia. They have no problems at all with drugs because of their outrageous drug laws. Oh wait...

Prohibition doesn`t work...anywhere. And it makes Indonesia look really bad as they try to move further into the realm of globally important economic powers.

Its like the UAE where all kinds of attractions for tourists are advertised but if you have one poppy seed on your person upon entering the country you will be jailed, or for that matter if you kiss in public. These countries need to be boycotted.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:51 AM
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4. I read that it's illegal to chew gum in public or to spit on public ground in Singapore.
People should always research a foreign country before visiting it.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 11:15 AM
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5. They sell t-shirts there which say "Singapore is a fine place"

And which list the fines for minor offenses.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 03:54 AM
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12. We need those for Honolulu.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-11 03:54 AM by ellisonz
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