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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:25 AM
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State Dept eyes rerouting Keystone XL pipeline
Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - The State Department is considering rerouting TransCanada Corp.'s proposed $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline to avoid ecologically sensitive areas of Nebraska, a U.S. official said on Tuesday.

The State Department has been weighing issues raised in public meetings and talks with officials in six states that would be affected "including whether to consider a rerouting of the Keystone XL pipeline away from an environmentally delicate area of Nebraska," the official said.

A decision to consider an alternative route would require an environmental impact study on the new segment of the pipeline, the official said. Such a move could delay a final decision on whether to go forward on the pipeline.

The State Department said last week that it still hoped to make a decision by the end of the year, but did not rule out delaying the decision if necessary.



Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/09/us-usa-keystone-rerouting-idUSTRE7A81G120111109
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:30 AM
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1. Or to avoid politically-sensitive areas
Good luck with that one.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:34 AM
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2. don't build it at all -- that would be a good route. nt
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:38 AM
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3. What Bullshit...He doesn't listen to the people..he listens to his owners.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:39 AM
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4. Lies. The decision has been made and the pipe
is already coming in from Canada. K/R
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:52 AM
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5. Why don't they just build a doggone refinery in Canada instead of piping it to TX?
Seriously
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:12 AM
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7. Because it's cheaper to pipe it. nt
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:17 AM
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8. Excellent question.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:27 AM
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10. Could it be because it will create more jobs in Texas and the Gulf?
I had wondered the same thing. Why not let Canada build refineries and we buy it from Canada. They are supposed to be our allies. So...something else must be going on here. Jobs for Texas and the states along the pipeline.
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freedom fighter jh Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:09 PM
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20. They have to get the stuff out of Canada either before it's refined or after.
My understanding is that the oil company is also trying to build a pipeline west from the tarsands area to the Pacific Ocean. The trouble (for them) with that is that that pipeline would have to pass through provinces whose populations are mostly First Nations, who don't want it, and in Canada the residents do get some say.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:22 PM
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23. If you are going west coast or gulf... That refined oil is for export
All it takes is tanker trucks or trains to get it anywhere for US consumption.


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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:05 AM
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6. State? When did the Department of State become an ecological expert?
What the heck is the Department of State doing in the middle of something involving the ecology of Nebraska? Did Nebraska secede and become a foreign nation?

Last time I'll miss a newscast!

(Yes, I did read where State has the power to make the decision about the ecology of Nebraska because the pipeline crosses a national border, but it still makes no damned sense.)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:46 AM
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12. They're probably the lead agency
which doesn't mean that they don't have to consult with USFWS, ACOE, and other agencies.
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freedom fighter jh Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:06 PM
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19. The dept of state is involved because it's an international issue.
The pipeline, if it's built, will cross the border.

Under the National Environmental Policy Act, the State Dept had to write an environmental impact statement. They issued that on 8/26, finding that the pipeline would not cause a major problem.

Next, Executive Order 13337 (http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2004/pdf/04-10378.pdf) requires the State Dept to determine whether the pipeline is in the national interest.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:22 AM
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9. Of course they will approve it. Its going to happen no matter what we do.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:29 AM
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11. Well....there you go! Ugh. n/t
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:47 AM
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13. So many pipes, so many places for leaks.
:grr:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:29 PM
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22. Problem I have with this is who cleans it up after it is done with use?
What happens if in 10 years the company claims bankruptcy and can't safely dig up all the pipe? Do they have to have a secure fund for clean-ups?

Doesn't seem the end game is ever considered in these projects. Seems only the politics is.
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:59 AM
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14. The route is only a small part of the problem.
It's the filthy shit flowing through the pipe that is the main problem.
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freedom fighter jh Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:11 PM
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21. Yes.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-11 01:11 PM by freedom fighter jh
Processing it and then burning it will mean too much carbon dioxide going into the atmosphere.
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humanityisfree Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:30 PM
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15. lame
just lame
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:44 PM
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16. Unfortunately this misses the point.
Don't build it at all.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:51 PM
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17. Don't build it at all.
But, but, but... the campaign-funding kickback$$$$$$$$$$$$ from the "privileged one$$$$$$$" will come from? :sarcasm:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:00 PM
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18. Re-route it right through the US Department of State.
Since they want it so badly, make sure they get to see it close up!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:37 PM
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24. I got nothin' against oil. Just don't burn it. Use electricity to move vehicles.
National security. We've never had a war over electricity. Ever. No terror attacks either. Best thing we could possibly do is eliminate ICE cars and move to all-electric battery cars. They're a blast to drive, too!
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