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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:03 PM
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NYPD Threatens to Sue OWS Protesters, Russell Simmons Calls for Peaceful Activism
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:19 PM by Roy Rolling
Source: International Business Times

The NYPD announced today that it will "pursue legal action" against demonstrators who injure any of its members, reports the New York Post.

Ed Mullins, president of the NYPD's Sergeant's Benevolent Association, stated that his group will sue any of the Occupy Wall Street protesters who cause harm to any one of its 5,000 members.

"In light of the growing violence attendant to the 'Occupy' movements across the country, particularly as evidenced by the recent events in Oakland, I am compelled to place these so-called 'occupiers' on notice that physical assaults on police officers will not be tolerated," he said

"Assault on a police officer is not only punishable as a felony in the State of New York, but will also be met with swift and certain legal action by the SBA, which will seek monetary damages against any individual who causes injury to a New York City Sergeant," Mullins added in the Post exclusive.

Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/239011/20111027/ows-rus...



This is a guaranteed winner for the cops if it makes it all the way to the Supreme Court. :sarcasm:

If this spreads, OPD will want money from Scott Olsen for damaging a police projectile with his skull.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:06 PM
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1. and yet, they do tolerate physical assualts upon innocent American citizens
Citizens who are simply exercising their rights under the Constitution
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:16 PM
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26. Mr. Simmons might just find out that this is a two-way
street: maybe he doesn't comprehend that police do not have the right to assault lawful protesters who are exercising their constitutional rights. Were I Deputy Inspector Bologna, I would be quivering, no shaking or quaking in my boots and probably wetting, if not shitting, my pants. :patriot:
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:06 PM
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2. But it's okay
...for the police to physically assault unarmed citizens?

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StandingInLeftField Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:06 PM
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3. Ed Mullins has it all wrong.
What a load of crap.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:07 PM
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4. A lot of occupiers making unprovoked physical attacks on the police, are they?
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:08 PM by No Elephants
Taking bets on what is coming next.

Will it be a bunch of trumped up lawsuits?


What's your guess?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:08 PM
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5. WTF? This is bizarro world.
"In light of the growing violence attendant to the 'Occupy' movements across the country, particularly as evidenced by the recent events in Oakland, I am compelled to place these so-called 'occupiers' on notice that physical assaults on police officers will not be tolerated," he said.

:crazy:
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:09 PM
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6. I thought this was a hazard that goes with the job.
What every drunk that takes a swing at you while your on duty gets sued. This is crazy.
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StandingInLeftField Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:18 PM
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7. They're hoping to make a pre-emptive strike.
Smokescreen, scare-tactic, shell game, smoke and mirrors, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....call it what you will.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:19 PM
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8. Reading articles like this lead me to believe
We are being duped...This sounds like a well devised plan...treat them nice make them think we are on there side...then get them....We know who is behind all of this ....republican agitators....The protests we gaining numbers to many to quick,so they suddeny decided to put a stop to the protests.....I wondered the other day why all of a sudden was violence part of the movement...One day everything was honkey dorey and the next competedly different...This was organized, very well organized...The real protestors didn't see it coming...but I think the media did...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:22 PM
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9. LOL
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:28 PM
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10. hey folks, wake the fuck up! You all know the police will get away with a lot
any. ANY. ANY violence by the protestors not only takes away the credibility, but gives an excuse. I know most of the OWS people across the country are peacefully assembled. They need to police their ranks. Anyone who incites violence by throwing anything, or responds to police aggression with violence also has blood on their hands

Ghandi didnt defeat the fucking british empire by endorsing violence. In fact, didnt he take more than one ass beating? and then he won.

The first time one of these clashes escalates to lethal force, you can fuggedabout the whole movement. It will be smeared to the point of being ineffective.

NO VIOLENCE. PERIOD.

It means you are going to have to be smarter, more alert, more organized, and have several plans. You can count me in your numbers, and I do speak the message to my business owners and union leaders. Actually to the point where Im off the "A" list and unemployed right now...

I wont support police brutality.

I also can not support violence by OWS members anywhere.
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songbookz Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:31 PM
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28. Please, please PLEASE!!!
Can I be on that jury?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:29 PM
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11. This fucking hippie is repeatedly hurting my hand with his face!
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:37 PM
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18. I Need and Mani and a Pedi!
I LOL'd Out loud.
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smiley Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:29 PM
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12. OWS should say...
likewise
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:31 PM
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13. Don't worry, if a protestor injures a cop, we'll just transfer the protestor to Staten Island
That's what the NYPD does when they injure people. Hopefully the occupiers will get enough momey for a legal fund.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:35 PM
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14. oh that's rich
the OWS protestors don't show up with batons, mace and other implements of destruction.

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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:35 PM
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15. Police don't need unions.
With the power of the state behind them, they need no more representation.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:36 PM
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16. This story isn't about violence
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:37 PM by Roy Rolling
it's about propaganda. The "cry wolf" tactics of this police organization is of the "when did you stop beating your wife" fallacy of logic.

OWS protesters are peaceful and the news outlets that spread this propaganda that the police need to sue because they have been threatened with violence is bullshit.

I mean, really, when cops show up in helmets and riot gear and fire grenades and tear gas at protesters violence becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy---and a convenient breaking news story for propaganda outlets like Fox News.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:37 PM
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17. Has OWS or the injured civilians filed any notices with the city yet?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:38 PM
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19. This paper/mag is nothing
but a right wing piece of crap. Even worse than any murdoch rag which is where they got this story.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:48 PM
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20. lol... What will Jon Stewart do with this one. They practically write his material for him.
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 02:54 PM by Dover
:rofl:
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Dont call me Shirley Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:00 PM
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21. NYPBullies
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:01 PM
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22. Today they issue their warning. Tomorrow a cop is "brutally assaulted"
Wait for it.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:06 PM
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35. Probably by another cop.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:21 PM
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36. Or a Fibbie Plant
This stinks like 10 day old fish
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:01 PM
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23. This threat means our side is winning. nt
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:12 PM
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24. Sounds like they are trying to make people believe OWS
are a bunch of violent anarchists. How many cops are going to start coming up with injuries they SAY were caused by protestors?


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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:48 PM
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31. Bingo. In Boston, the day after the news of police brutality to the 99% hit TV
and You Tube. graffiti including A in a circle (apparently the symbol for anarchy), appeared on a bank.

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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:16 PM
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25.  "...In light of the growing violence..." Ha!

The only "violence" that's growing is on the part of the police under the direction of the lackeys of the 1%

It's deja vu all over again.
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NCcoast Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:31 PM
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27. NYPD recieved 4.6 Million for JP Morgan Chase in Oct 2011
If you're rolling in dough you don't have to restrict yourself to politicians when it comes to buying government. Wall Street bought the NYPD. Notice how all of the trouble has been coming from the older higher ranking cops. And this threat is coming from the NYPD Benevolent Association, seems a little odd to me they'd be taking a position. And always because someone might cause violence, because no one actually has aside from the police. When all those Tea Partiers where were holding rifles and signs saying 'Water the roots of the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants'. The police found no reason to think they might cause violence. So let's be clear about it. Violence and excessive force and fine when used to support the corporate state.
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vets74 Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 06:49 AM
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45. But I'd only lose 10 DAYS HOLIDAY PAY if I committed 2nd degree assault on cops.
Walk up and MACE a pod of blue-shirts at the corner of Liberty and Broadway. Assault with a weapon.

That's gonna cost me 10-days of vacation credits and a reassignment to Staten Island, a.k.a. Richmond County NY.

And the guy's will pat me on the butt, football coach style.

Don'tcha know....

Btw: is this an SNL skit ???
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:38 PM
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29. Rule #1: All cops are whiny crybabies.
Rule #2: All cops are cowards
Rule #3: All cops indulge in projectionism
Rule #4: All cops are liars
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wobblie Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:40 PM
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30. Sergeant's Benevolent Association
A couple of thoughts. The SBA represents "middle management". These will be the one's who will do the dirty work, ie. Sgt. Balonnia(?) and pepper spraying the pend-in women. The rank and file cops are with the 99%. In situations requiring violence it is the non-commissioned officers who take the lead.
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avebury Donating Member (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 03:53 PM
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32. If the police don't want violence then they should not commit violent acts
against the protesters. The OWS Events have been peaceful until the police attack them. I am surprised that some well known defense attornies have not stepped up to represent the victims in sueing the relevant police departments and cities.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:01 PM
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33. who injure any of its members,
Isn't that possibility part of their job description????


And isn't assaulting a police officer already an arrest-able offense?
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:01 PM
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34. Assaults on police not tolerated. Assaults BY police encouraged. nt
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 04:32 PM
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37. Grandstanding
The Sergeants' Union is trying to do something about all the political losses the cops have experienced over the past month. The police went from being held in universal high esteem - or so they thought - to where they are now, a cut above dog catcher.

The union president has to make a show of doing something about the cops' plummeting prestige. Threatening a lawsuit against individual protesters isn't much, but it will have to do. I think he really wanted to threaten OWS, but his secretary told him it wouldn't pass the laugh test.



Everybody's always picking on the poor cops.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:13 PM
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40. Bingo! You have nailed it. Their legitimacy as neutral arbiters
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 05:15 PM by coalition_unwilling
has become contested territory and they're suffering from massive cognitive dissonance as a result, i.e., "I know I'm supposed to do what my bosses tell me, but I also know that I'm part of the 99% and am being called upon to repress that same 99%. Argh, my head is going to explode from all this dissonance. Better swing my baton at some young kid to make my head feel better. Argh!"
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:11 PM
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42. One Size Fits All
The cops aren't set up to deal with large-scale peaceful protests. It's completely wrong to deploy a large police presence as a response to street demonstrations. This was true when street demonstrations were organized by the Left, and it remains true when street demonstrations promote a centrrist goal.

I remember being annoyed and puzzled by the large and unfriendly police presence in response to the demonstrations against the war in Iraq. It wasn't a police matter, and it shouldn't have been made one. The police themselves are going to back pedal away from the no-win situations they've allowed themselves to be placed in.

By the way, Tony Baloneyville is the place of bureaucratic limbo where they put you when they don't know what else to do with you. They give you a desk but no pencils, and the temperature always stays a constant 68 degrees. You can see out, and other people can see in, but you're not going anywhere and everybody knows it. You end up in Tony Baloneyville when you've fucked up in a big public way but punishing you would cost them more grief than you're worth. You can go out for lunch or they can slide a tray through the slot; it's your choice.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:04 PM
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38. K & R !!!
:kick:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:10 PM
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39. Is this The Onion or Andy Borowitz? Cuz it can't be reality. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 05:53 PM
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41. embarrassing...
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 06:28 PM
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43. Time for the 99% to take back law enforcement from the Police Militias that have taken over...
Over it!

These "Police" departments are out of control.

...I'm going to be looking for candidates on all levels that support OWS.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 06:16 AM
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44. "stated that his group will sue"
What would their standing be? They are neither the allegedly injured officer nor the alleged offender. A third party rarely has standing to sue over a dispute between two other parties, so I'd be interested to see what sort of cartwheels would be involved.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:40 AM
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46. ... then they fight you, then you win.
I guess I thought Gandhi was referring to physical violence, but fighting one in court is still fighting one.

I should note, the attribution of the quote to Gandhi is disputed.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi...
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:28 PM
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47. Brass ones. BRASS ones.
Bunch of Oligarch-bought thug fucks.
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