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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:23 PM
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Lech (Solidarity)Walesa, former Polish president, to visit New York in support of Occupy Wall Street
Source: NY Daily News

By Corky Siemaszko

Solidarity hero Lech Walesa is flying to New York to show his support for the Occupy Wall Street protesters.

"How could I not respond," Walesa told a Polish newspaper Wednesday. "The thousands of people gathered near Wall Street are worried about the fate of their future, the fate of their country. This is something I understand."

A former shipyard worker who led Poland's successful revolt against Soviet communism, Walesa said "capitalism is in crisis" and not just in America.

"This is a worldwide problem," he told the Lublin-based Dziennik Wschodni newspaper. "The Wall Street protesters have focused a magnifying glass on the problem."




Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/occupy_wall_street/...




Mike Marsland/WireImage
Lech Walesa has warned of a "worldwide revolt against capitalism" if the Wall St. protests are ignored.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/occupy_wall_street/...
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:36 PM
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1. What a coup for the OWS!
I bet the Unions show up to see Lech! I would love to hear him speak. Dana ; )
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:38 PM
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2. Hopefully some of our leaders will understand it too and
act accordingly. Wish I could be there.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:42 PM
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3. Whatever else he may be . . .
. . . he is a visible symbol of resistance to an unjust system.

I can't wait to hear how FoxNews is going to ignore this. They sure as hell can't spin it.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:32 PM
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19. Fox will come up with some way to spin it
Even if it is just via snide comments.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:44 PM
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4. Hope OWS is still there when he arrives.
Otherwise a big black eye for Bloomberg.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 04:59 PM
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5. solidarnosc!
Edited on Thu Oct-13-11 04:59 PM by frylock
:applause:
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Joe Shlabotnik Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 05:27 PM
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6. I just hope the Occupiers aren't evicted before then.
Bloomberg to Walesa: "See, nobody here.... nothing to see her Mr. Walesa, might as well fly back home"
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tartan2 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 05:29 PM
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7. Oh hooray, this just gives me goose bumps!
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 05:57 PM
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8. Oh Yeah! Freeper OWS haters dumbfounded over this
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 06:12 PM
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9. Thank you, Lech!
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 07:03 PM
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10. in honor of his visit...
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 08:33 AM
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11. Kick again for the anti-OWS repubs and their smear tactics
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:34 AM
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12. kick
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:44 AM
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13. Wow! Just wow!
Wow! Just wow!

This man was absolutely pivotal in the fall of Communism throughout Central and East Europe. His union's movement was the major catalyst for bringing down regime after regime.

His is a wonderful voice of quiet authority.
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In Other News Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 10:52 AM
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14. Excellent
Even if I still can't get his name pronounced right! ;-)
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 09:00 AM
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24. Spelled out phonetically,
the closest pronunciation would be "Leck Vowenssa".
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 11:32 AM
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15. Kick
:kick:
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:06 PM
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16. Rec & WOW..Hero of the people.. Great timing
at a time when push is becoming 'shove back', Walesa arrives like a fresh, just opened XXX Super Duper Energy Drink.
Power to the OWS, the 99%, Carry on my wayward sons, help is on the way
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:19 PM
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17. K & R
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:31 PM
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18. Does anyone else see any irony in this?
Wealth disparity in Poland is INCREASING due to capitalism because that is what capitalism does.

This guy is a hard-core pro-capitalist. Why romanticize him?

Some context:

www.naomiklein.org/files/resources/pdfs/Wielgosz.pdf (sorry, it's a pdf, the only source I can find for it)

"The restoration of capitalism in Poland has created a social wasteland. The current alterglobalisation phenomenon is more of a social scene (activist scene). than a social movement. Workers protests are truly dramatic and often end in riots (last July saw rioting in the streets of Warsaw during a Miners demonstration), but they lack co- ordination and a political tendency. Even when a wave of strikes and protests rises, as happened in 2002-2003, forcing changes in the budget policies of the leftwing government of the SLD (The Democratic Left Alliance), they do not leave behind any lasting structures or representation.

In Poland today, Solidarity means almost nothing. In the eyes of ordinary citizens it is seen as compromised, corrupt and treacherous. It has become less and less of a point of reference for workers struggling to defend their liquidated workplaces. For them, more important It is the solidarity with a small s that means more to them. "
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Edim Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 12:52 PM
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20. Yes
Edited on Fri Oct-14-11 12:57 PM by Edim
I see irony. Many people from the former "eastern bloc" are pro-capitalist because of propaganda. They think capitalism means freedom, more or less. Simple confusion. They mean well, but are misled.
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:19 PM
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21. I agree with you to a point
However I refuse to think that someone like Walesa is naive enough to be simply misled. He knows what he is doing, and he is trying to protect capitalism from what is becoming a worldwide revolt against it (see Greece, for example). He isn't supporting the revolt. He is trying to help squash it with platitudes. The OWS in the US is in its birth stages. We have a long way to go, but folks like Walesa won't help us get to the truth of how we got here, he will only help keep us muddled.
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Edim Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-11 02:53 PM
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22. possible
I can't say anything about his agenda/intentions, I could only speculate.

I disagree that someone like Walesa is naive enough to be misled. Everyone can be misled. What is he like actually? I see on Wikipedia that he's allegedly a staunch opponent of abortion. So he seems to be misled about that.
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Riley18 Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 08:47 AM
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23. K & R
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 10:34 AM
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25. K&R
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-11 11:01 AM
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26. Nice!
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