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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:22 AM
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U.S. Appeals to Palestinians to Stall U.N. Vote on Statehood
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 02:24 AM by jaysunb
Source: N.Y. Times

WASHINGTON The Obama administration has initiated a last-ditch diplomatic campaign to avert a confrontation this month over a plan by Palestinians to seek recognition as a state at the United Nations, but it may already be too late, according to senior American officials and foreign diplomats.

The administration has circulated a proposal for renewed peace talks with the Israelis in the hopes of persuading the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, to abandon the bid for recognition at the annual gathering of world leaders at the United Nations General Assembly beginning Sept. 20

The administration has made it clear to Mr. Abbas that it will veto any request presented to the United Nations Security Council to make a Palestinian state a new member outright.

But the United States does not have enough support to block a vote by the General Assembly to elevate the status of the Palestinians nonvoting observer entity to that of a nonvoting observer state. The change would pave the way for the Palestinians to join dozens of United Nations bodies and conventions, and it could strengthen their ability to pursue cases against Israel at the International Criminal Court


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/world/middleeast/04mi...



Saw this coming for awhile...too bad about the timing w/ the jobs speech. The hits just keep coming.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:46 AM
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1. "But the United States does not have enough support to block a vote by the General Assembly..."
Perfect.
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 03:06 AM
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2. Im going to bang my head bloody on this fucking table if we vote no.
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 03:06 AM by Muskypundit
Why. The fuck. Would we not recognize Palestine as a state. If we vote no on that we immediately lose all and then some of the good will we have received for our half hearted support of the arab spring. Its been awhile since I have seen burning U.S flags on the teevee, and I want it to stay this way.

Fuck israel. Fuck AIPAC. Im tired of those mother fuckers getting listened to over our best interests. They have everything they need, we dont need to risk a wave of anti-american sentiment just because acknowledging brown people exist on their borders would hurt their feelings. You want to stop terrorism? Stop giving israel a blank check of support.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 12:05 PM
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10. We shouldn't give the Palestinians a blank check, either.
Hamas & and all the other right-wing fascist jihadists have to go. Then we can discuss the Likudniks(whom I do despise, btw.)
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Scottybeamer70 Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 05:38 AM
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3. If we have any goodwill left in the world
a "no" vote will surely take care of that. I think the rest of the planet is growing just
a bit weary of our continual support of Israel, regardless of any actions they take against others.
Enough already!!!
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:31 AM
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4. So our president favors civil rights right? What about HUMAN RIGHTS?
:banghead:


This is disgraceful. Shame on you Mr. President. Shame on you. The onus lies with you and your administration alone. Shame on you.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:32 AM
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5. LOL!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 06:59 AM
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6. Perhaps the latest round of missile firings at Civilian populations wasn't the best idea.
But that doesn't seem to bother anyone here so nevermind.

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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:30 AM
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8. complaining about missle firings
is like the Israelis shutting off water to some Palestinian towns except for two days a week and then laughing at Palestinains for "being dirty."
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 08:18 AM
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7. Hillary will never allow a yes vote
and Obama lacks the guts, knowledge, and will to oppose her.

Futile petition asking for signatures to ask the US government to support Palestinian statehood, but I signed it anyway:
http://stateforpalestine.org/
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 10:00 AM
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9. About time! Have to work around joint US / Israel obstruction and oppression
Edited on Sun Sep-04-11 10:01 AM by on point
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-11 02:30 PM
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11. I dont get it
What would be president Abbas's motivation to not attempt a status upgrade for his political entity?

I fail to see the carrot. The chance to join talks that have traditionally gone nowhere? Or the stick, as it were. They are already getting militarily trounced every time they stick their heads up.
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