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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:09 AM
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Ohio union reps are a no show for meeting with Gov. Kasich
Source: newsnet5.com



COLUMBUS, Ohio - On Thursday, Ohio union leaders represented by the group We Are Ohio said they would refuse to sit down and talk with Gov. John Kasich about Ohio's new collective bargaining law (commonly referred to as Senate Bill 5) until the law was repealed.

On Friday morning, their words held true as union reps were a no show at the governor's meeting in the Riffe Center in downtown Columbus.

Reporters gathered in a meeting room awaiting a possible discussion between the two sides which have been at odds since Senate Bill 5 passed legislation and was signed into law in March. They waited about 30 minutes before calling it quits.

Kasich told NewsChannel5 he's ready and willing to negotiate, but was disappointed no unions showed. He said unions don't know how to negotiate, but that it's never too late.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/political/ohio-union-r...

Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/political/ohio-union-r...



The picture is worth a thousand words

:rofl:

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:10 AM
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1. I LOVE WE ARE OHIO!
:applause:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:36 PM
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37. that picture is AWESOME
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:14 AM
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49. Yes It Is!
Hopefully Wisconsin helped and didn't hurt. LOVE that picture!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:21 AM
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2. That picture tells me
everything I need to know. Since Kasich knew the unions wouldn't be there, this scene was created. I'm supposed to believe serious negotiations are to commence with those chairs at those tables? No water pitchers or glasses? One microphone per table? So lame, so rethuglican.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:48 AM
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45. This was nothing but a visual prop so Kasich can go around and say, "See, I tried."
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 07:00 AM by bulloney
He probably got the advice to do this during one of those meetings with the Koch Bros.

Kasich and the Repubs in the Ohio General Assembly rammed SB 5 through and didn't give the Democrats and labor unions the time of day while it was going through the legislature. Now, with the news on the petition signatures gathered to put the issue on the November ballot, news from Wisconsin's recall elections and other rumblings around the country, NOW Kasich wants to play nice and COMPROMISE? He wants to do this and negotiate from the bill he signed into law and not start from the beginning which is what he should have done from the start.

I hope this is the first of many setbacks for this yahoo governor. His next project is to privatize the Ohio Turnpike and practically give it away to some crony so he can make a killing. All you have to do is look at the Indiana Toll Road. The road used to be well-maintained and inexpensive to drive on. Now, it's a POS and tolls have doubled and tripled since Gov. Daniels leased it out. You know damned well that Kasich will have the same fate for the Ohio Turnpike if he gets his way.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:10 AM
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48. Oh yeah, baby. He can use props if he wants to.
They just make him look more silly.

We know what "compromise" means. Obama and Kasich have dirtied that word.
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IllinoisBirdWatcher Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:29 AM
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3. Kasich the Clown - 197 days late
The clown and his goons wouldn't even negotiate with elected minority members of the legislature.

Even when thousands were in the streets (but locked out of the capitol).

Once a bill is signed and made into law, there is no more negotiation. Any 5th grader knows that.

If Kasich the Clown is serious, all he has to do is convince his puppets to repeal the law they created so joyously and quickly.

Meanwhile, he looks totally stoopid with his empty-room photo opps.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:09 AM
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38. Can Ohio Recall Kasich, too?
Oh, that would be a wonderful double header, seeing Walker and Kasich flushed down the toilet! :-)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:30 AM
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4. congrat`s to the ohio union leaders !!
that will show someone that the unions are`t going to go to sit in the back of the bus...
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:34 AM
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5. You go
OHIO! OHIO! OHIO!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:50 AM
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6. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:54 AM
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7. With apologies
to the wonderful Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young and their classic OHIO

Koch Brothers and Kasich sweatin..
We're finally on our way
This summer democracy's comin
S B five dies in O-hi-o


yeah...I know my age is showing...
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. Love that song, love the sentiment
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. First time I heard this song I cried and it still gives me chills. Nixon had college kids killed - so very shameful!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. Neil Young's "Southern Man" is the one that gets me.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:40 PM
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26. Love the words!!!
And I loved CSN&Y.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:31 PM
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68. Neil Young should re-release it for the 21st century!
good one, EW!
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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:55 AM
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8. Solidarity, gov.
Dear John,
SB5 takes away the right to meet with you. We respect your viewpoint. Hell, no. We will not meet with you now.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:57 AM
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9. So now he wants to meet with unions?
After locking them out of the debate on bill 5 and steamrolling it through the legislature?

I'm glad to see the unions told him to go fuck himself.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:08 PM
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12. What a great way to show his relevancy
:evilgrin:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 08:54 PM
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36. Can you spell irony?
Sweet. :)

--imm
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:02 PM
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10. Makes me proud to say, I'm a Union member!
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:05 PM
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11. Yea Ohio!!
Good on ya!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:11 PM
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13. We are Ohio!
:applause:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:15 PM
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14. We are ALL Ohioans now!
I'm proud to stand with these brave people!

:patriot:
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:40 PM
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15. GO OHIO UNIONS!!! Kick Kasich and his bully ass....
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:52 PM
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16. .."He said unions don't know how to negotiate....." said the man who
unilaterally, with NO negotiation is trying to nullify union contracts.

Kasich must be REALLY scared right about now.......... :woohoo:

Now that's just plain funny right there!
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leftyohiolib Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #16
25. Kasich must be REALLY scared right about now.. he must be cause
he would never have agreed to meet with unions before. the recall in wisconsin has him rethinking
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gholtron Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:15 PM
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17. Now they see
What SB5 feels like. LOL Priceless.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:00 PM
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18. Good n/t
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:52 PM
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19. love it! n/t
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:12 PM
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21. K & R
LMAO!!
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:15 PM
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22. I don't live in OH...and I'm not a member of any union...but here is a special message for Kasich...
*FINGER*

:-)
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RATM435 Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:32 PM
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23. I'm surprised that Obama didn't cut short his vacation and meet with Kasich
I'm surprised that Obama didn't cut short his vacation and meet with Kasich
he did say there's two sides of the coin.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:24 PM
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67. Just kind of poking people in the chest, aren't you?
Since Obama made no comment about meeting with either side of this issue, your "supposin" that he would fly down and support Kasich is flame bait at it's finest.

I guess you can just as well say you're surprised Obama didn't cut his vacation short to fund raise for Michelle Bachmann, you know, since he didn't do it and never said he would.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:35 PM
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24. Why in the world would they want to negotiate?
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 03:35 PM by drm604
They already hold all of the cards. The bill is on hold and the voters will overturn it in November.

Kasich knows this. He can't be that stupid. This is all show so that he can claim "I tried, but they won't negotiate".

Kasich can negotiate my :kick:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:45 PM
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27. Kasich knows, that is why he now wants to negotiate
To save his ass with the Koch's.

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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:59 PM
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28. Go Ohio !! Repeal SB-5 !!...n/t
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:41 AM
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61. +1
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 04:33 PM
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30. I signed the petition to get repeal of SB5 on th ballot, but I'm worried
about how it's going to go, because the political system in Ohio is rotten to the core, and that cockroach Ken Blackwell is still lurking around here somewhere. I hope We Are Ohio has a way to secure the ballots in November.

And I think it's a hoot that that crook, Kasich, got stood up. Bwahahahahahaha Did he really think they were gonna show?
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 04:41 PM
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31. The time to negotiate passed long ago, when you passed that pos
I was there when you locked us out of the statehouse--never been a union member, but I support union rights and I DON'T support YOU!!!!

Vote NO in NOvember!
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 05:45 PM
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32. Good! That's an earned 'fuck you' to him
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 06:08 PM
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34. There's Gov. Kasich, sitting with all his friends
Note to Democrats in Washington (and you know who you are): This is the way to negotiate. We Are Ohio put down a marker, and when the governor said no, WAO stuck by its previous statement and didn't show up for the meeting. Watch carefully and see if Kasich doesn't make some kind of concession, even if he doesn't repeal SB 5. In the meantime, WAO is going to proceed and follow through on their own efforts to repeal SB 5. Also, keep an eye on the polls: Who does the public side with, and does standing strong for a well-articulated principle gain or lose support for you?
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. "There's Gov. Kasich, sitting with all his friends" I wonder, is he paying his friend by the hour or
is it a flat rate.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #34
55. Yes. And not to start a fight here, but this should be a note to Obama, too....
This is how it's done. Just as you would with a child. Say, in a matter of fact way, "The discussion is over."

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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #55
56. Amen. (n/t)
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #55
63. PLUSSITY, plus, plus, plusserstein mac plusserson!!! n/t
.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:16 AM
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39. Kasich .... "don't know how to negotiate,"
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 01:18 AM by Botany
R you kidding me, John? You had SWAT teams, mounted police, plain clothes cops, and snipers on the roof plus you locked the
doors to the state capital and then you left town last winter when we wanted to talk about SB 5 so just shut up sit down and take
your ass kicking like a man this fall.


BTW John your Dad was a union mail carrier in McKees Rocks, PA and you are just working through your daddy issues.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #39
64. And,
He's apparently not man enough to fill his Daddy's shoes.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #64
69. The Koch Bros run a fine haberdashery.
Since his dads lowly work shoes clashed with Kasich's business suit, he had a more fitting pair cobbled by the monied interests of Ohio. When Kasich famously stated that "Ohio is open for business" on his first day in office, what he meant was "The Buckeye State is for sale".
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PhoenixAbove Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 01:58 AM
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40. K&R - Go Ohio in NOvember! n/t
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:26 AM
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41. Now we must throw the asshole OUT.......nt
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:43 AM
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42. In the featured videos Kasich says "I know there are some in their ranks who want to talk..."
"if they wanna sneak in in the middle of the night and meet with us- we're open to that".

translation: "Where are the fuckin' scabs to cross the picket line?!?!?"

uh- they AIN'T none, Governor...

:rofl:
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caveat_imperator Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #42
62. He'll just find some sycophants
to parade in front of the media and claim they are union members willing to talk. It'll get a lot of attention, but when the fraud is revealed the news will immediately shut up and pretend it never happened and won't offer any correction to the story.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:43 AM
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43. Bravo to the union reps!
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 06:47 AM
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44. Maybe Kasich doesn't understand what GFY means.
Tell him to call dickhead cheney the conservanazi asshole.
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 07:40 AM
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46. Good going ... atta a boy Ohio Unions
We need more actions likes this against these NEOCON rat turds.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:09 AM
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47. My new two favorite states: Wisconsin and Ohio.
We are all Ohio and Wisconsin!

:patriot:
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #47
50. Maybe this pro-union attitude will rub off on Nebraska?

I'm going to love being in the BIG 10!

K&R.

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #50
54. I wish it would rub off.
Imagine if all states were pro-union. We could have this nation straightened out in a few short years.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:04 PM
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71. I hope so, Steve, and me too!
GBR!

:hi:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:49 AM
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53. And I'm with you too!
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:44 AM
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51. Well! That's not very PRAGMATIC, is it?
:rofl:

I mean, the idea of fighting for what's RIGHT instead of settling for what's available...


That's SO yesterday
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 08:45 AM
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52. So if a turd hits the floor and there's nobody around to smell it...
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 08:47 AM by Hubert Flottz
is it still a POS?

Solidarity...even in the boardroom and bedroom or the entire cookie could crumble nlike the last "Super Power" did 20 years ago. Think it couldn't happen to us...so did the KGB.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:56 AM
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57. He eliminated the Unions' right to negotiate with the State and now he wants them to negotiate
look, he's getting what he asked for. :eyes:
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:59 AM
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58. TIme to give the Reptilians a dose of their own medicine. /nt
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:04 AM
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59. "...don't know how to negotiate...."
What a dumbass...If he actually said that...
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 11:34 AM
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60. This reminds me of an episode of M*A*S*H
where Hotlips is visited by an old suitor (that she dumped), played by Stuart Margolin.


Margolin: I waited hours for you. You never came.
Swit: I told you I wouldn't.
Margolin: You didn't lie.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:10 PM
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65. Looks like Fox News is finding it more difficult to rule than to pontificate. nt
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 12:13 PM
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66. I bet Kasich and the supporters of SB5 just filmed a commercial
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 12:34 PM by JohnnyRingo
That's the only reason I can think of to appear at a meeting and sit around when the other side already said they wouldn't be there. The image of Kasich on one side of the room ready to hash out a deal while the other table sat unoccupied is the stuff of a deceptive TV ad portraying Kasich as reasonable.

It's amusing that Kasich claims the unions "don't know how to negotiate", yet he fears them enough to take away their right to do so.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:56 PM
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70. Yes,
that "don't know how to negotiate" crap jumped out at a lot of us. I am glad that Mr. Kasich is pretending to believe his own mendacity--he looks the bigger fool by so doing.

I noticed, too, that these vile cretins are sitting on the 'right' for their little photo op...

I hope Kasich, and all those like him, continue to underestimate the intellects and the will of the hoi polloi.
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lindysalsagal Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:11 PM
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72. So nice to hear sanity rear it's triumphant head in Ohio after the 2004 election
steal. They only stole that state because it couldn't decide which team it batted for. Thank god someone there has chosen sides. Wonderful news for Ohio and the whole country. Can't wait to see how blue Ohio is in 2012.
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