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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:01 AM
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Former Reagan Official: 'Rick Perry's an Idiot'
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 11:48 AM by Roy Rolling
Source: The Atlantic Wire

If Rick Perry has a "Rove problem," with the Bush team targeting him for criticism, he is apparently developing a Bartlett problem as well. Bruce Bartlett, who was a domestic policy adviser to President Reagan and served as the Treasury Department's deputy assistant secretary for economic policy under President George H.W. Bush, had some unflattering comments on the Texas governor and presidential candidate on CNN's American Morning today: "Rick Perry's an idiot, and I don't think anyone would disagree with that," he said, in a discussion about Perry saying Federal Reserve Bank chairman Ben Bernanke would be "treasonous" if he printed more money. CNN's Political Ticker relates Bartlett's own criticism of the Fed:

Bartlett said the politics at the Federal Reserve are a serious problem and in part blamed U.S. presidents, who he said have historically not focused their energies on the bank.

"He has had open seats on the fed almost his entire presidency and I think that this sends a signal that he just doesn't care very much about what the fed does," Bartlett said.



Read more: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/08/bruce-b... /



Short article, but Bruce Bartlett doesn't need a lot of excess verbiage to express his often spot-on observations. But his observation about Obama not filling Federal Reserve vacancies is wrong---for over a year Obama's pick for the Fed---a Nobel Prize winning economist from M.I.T.---was blockaded by Republicans. http://tech.mit.edu/V131/N28/diamond.html
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nyy1998 Donating Member (984 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:04 AM
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1. Thanks Mr. Bartlett, I figured that one on my own
nt
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:13 AM
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3. bruce bartlett is a very credible voice in republican party
and he's come out swinging lately
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:31 AM
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4. Older rethugs who were at least respectable must be very ashamed
of the new brand of rethug. This is so far from the party that used to represent business (mostly small) but still understood the needs of the poor that it is not even funny.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:05 PM
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10. When was it exactly that the Rep. party "still understood the needs of the poor"?
'Cuz I learned at my grandma's knee more than 45 years ago that the Reps were the party of the rich and the Dems were the party that represented the poor and working people. It had been ever thus (although recently, the Dems seem to have joined the Repubs in kissing up to the rich and corporations and no longer give a shit about the peasants).

Older Repugs weren't totally batshit crazy like the current crop, but they've ALWAYS been the rich person's party.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:25 PM
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14. They didn't get better, the DLC drug the Dems down to the same level
The Republicans want as many slaves as they need, and are happy to employ slaves. A plantation full of happy slaves is a successful plantation. The DLC seems to think, on the other hand, that we're just excess population, and should quietly die.

No one ever said the Republican party MET the needs of the poor, just that they UNDERSTAND them, which you need to do in order to manipulate the poor effectively. If they didn't understand the needs of the poor, they wouldn't be able to sucker such a large number of them into voting Republican. And as is fairly obvious from current Democratic speechmaking, the upper levels of the Democratic party seem to have no understanding whatsoever of the needs of the poor.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:10 PM
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37. I was born in 1941, At least in our state they voted for many of the
poverty programs for years. For increases etc. At that time I lived in Iowa. Minnesota and Wisconsin were even more generous but they were both mostly Democratic states. Iowa was usually rethug as it still is.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:46 AM
Response to Reply #37
43. When Lincoln was President, Democrats were the Party of the rich.
And the pro-slavery Party, too.

The Parties gradually switched places. It was a long time before the switch was complete.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:32 PM
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41. Yeah, I totally agree with that statement.
These Republican nutjobs in office now scare the blood out of the heads out of the older Republicans. They can't believe that Boehnor was talking about not raising the debt ceiling in July.

There wasn't much press on it, but in July, from about the middle of the month clear to the end of the month, there was quite a mad dash by older seniors to get money in their pockets in case the whackos that are in office now didn't get that debt celing raised.
When President Obama said that he could not guarantee that the Social Security checks would go out in time in August, there was a large number of senior citizens withdrawing money from their saving accounts, or 401K plans, or whatever they had to get them some money in their checking accounts just in case.

I've never known people in Congress this freaking nuts.
And it better never happen again.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:56 AM
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44.  45 years ago. 1966. A grandma then was probably thinking of FDR and RFK.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 04:59 AM by No Elephants
But, it was not always that way. Nor did it change overnight. Please see Reply 43.

And the Southern Democrats have taken over again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Coun...

Only this time, the parties are not switching places. Rather, they are becoming one, and, IMO, the wrong one.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. "credible voice in republican party"
a little hard up for credible then.
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #9
21. establishment republicans respect him
he's worked on the banking committee and helped write the jack kemp tax cuts for RR
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:00 AM
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45. An oxymoron, if there ever was one. Wonder what his agenda really is?
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #45
54. That is exactly what I was wondering...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:32 PM
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30. Is he clearing the way for jeb?
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. im not so sure its calculated
bruce hasn't been a fan of the bush family lately either
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PhoenixAbove Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. That's a fear in the back of my mind. n/t
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7wo7rees Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 06:49 PM
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39. So there's more than a few of us thinking this?
This is so typical of the mindgames these fucks play. Get us all whipped up and worn out about about how preposterous and unlikely a candidate Rick Perry is, and then BLAMMO! Jeb appears from his Kennebunkport headquarters to save the day for all the spun pissants, and take the wind out of our sails.

Rick Perry is a false flag operation. Possible?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:09 AM
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2. Knuckle-dragger Rick Perry criticizing Ben Bernaike
Perry doesn't even know what the Federal Reserve does, much less whether their policies are proper.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:45 AM
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5. that's why
Rick Perry criticizes the Federal Reserve. He doesn't have a clue what it does and figures his fans don't have a clue either---so they will never call bullshit on him.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:46 AM
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8. Perry couldn't SPELL "Federal Reserve,"
Let alone know what it does. We are in for REAL trouble if this clown wins the nomination.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:02 AM
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46. Bernanke deserves criticism, but not for the reason Perry cited.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 05:07 AM by No Elephants
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:46 AM
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6. Bartlett is also a duplicitous idiot.
Yeah, vacancies............
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 11:46 AM
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7. I saw that live -
and my jaw dropped. :wow: I appreciate a GOPer who will call it like it is. There used by more in the Party who were unafraid to call out The Crazy. Sadly, they are a disappearing breed.
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Mr Deltoid Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. He is an armageddonist
He calls his governorship his, 'ministry.'

Messianic complex, world ender, prophecy fulfiller...doesn't appeal to atheists like Rove.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:04 AM
Response to Reply #13
47. Sounds like a C Streeter. All in The Family.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:12 AM
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48. Never trust a Republican. If Bartlett were honest, he would have called out Bachmann,
Gingrich and Cain as well.

I'd add Romney and Huntsman, too, but they are the least nuts in a field made up entirely of nutters. I recognize that a Republican like Bartlett can't condemn the entire field. However, Bartlett's calling out only Perry is highly suspect, IMO.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:07 PM
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11. Why single out Perry? All of the GOP presidential candidates are idiots.
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 12:10 PM by totodeinhere
This is a case of the GOP establishment chafing at the idea that they might be losing control of the Republican Party. If Perry had been an East Coast establishment Republican and had made those same comments Bartlett would have had no problem with it.

And it's funny that this would come from a man who worked for the number one senile idiot of his day, Ronald Reagan.
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indy legend Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. Agreed. They are all idiots. Unfortunately if our current compromiser
n chief doesn't start acting like a democrat soon and stop throwing progressives under the bus in order to pander to the middle and the right, one of those idiots is going to be president in a little over a year. Then we can all kiss our collective asses good bye as we say so long to thew few rights we have left and prepare to serve our new corporate masters !! But I suppose he is "still playing chess"
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #11
22. specifically for his comments about the fed and treason
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:07 PM
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12. Ditto that he's an idiot.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:28 PM
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15. saying a Republican is an idiot is like saying he will be the next president of the United States
Edited on Fri Aug-19-11 01:01 PM by yurbud
The reverse is also true: if, like John McCain, Bob Dole, or Papa Bush seeking re-election, Republican voters detect critical thinking skills, no matter how regressive their policies, they will lose.

Papa Bush got into office coasting on the coattails of Reagan's stupid, and reached the zenith of stupid with painting Saddam Hussein as the new Hitler--but then when he left Saddam in place, he had no choice but to give the analysis for why it was necessary, which required thought beyond a knee-jerk reaction.

Republican voters cannot handle any argument that contains ''yes, but'' unless it leads to something they can have a knee-reaction to through other means.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:30 PM
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16. Yelp, but he plays well with the 50% of stupid citizens.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:35 PM
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17. Bartlett, a hometown boy. Graduated high school with my little brother
Asshole repig. But I didn't have to tell you guys that.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 12:45 PM
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19. I recall another GOP icon, Barry Goldwater, on live TV in AZ...
when asked what he thought of the "new" conservative Republicans. Without missing a beat, Goldwater said, "They're nor Republicans, they're shitheads".

Goldwater and I found common ground... :D
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:19 AM
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49. Goldwater was a shithead, too, though. Loved him some Joe McCarthy and some "states rights,"
Republican code for Jim Crow and refusing to make MLK Day a holiday.

Goldwater's big beef with the newer breed of Republican seems to have been that they preached against liquor and tobacco and other personal "failings" and Goldwater did not want negative commentary on his own habits from fellow Republicans.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #49
52. After his retirement from the Senate...
he actually mellowed some.

I'd be hard pressed to agree w/much of what he stood for, but he was spot on w/his assessment of neo-cons.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:13 PM
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20. I really enjoy Bruce Bartlett's writing, but at this point, that "reagan official" thing ...
is getting kinda ridiculous. It's like referring to Zell Miller or Pat Caddell as Democrats.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:23 PM
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23. I would assume this violates the LBN rule here at DU...EVERYONE already
knows he's an idiot!

KNR
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:22 AM
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50. No DU LBN rule deals with how many people already know something.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-11 05:23 AM by No Elephants
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:28 PM
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24. Behold the Miracle...
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:30 PM
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25. I wish he'd name some trait the TeaParty wouldn't find admirable.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:32 PM
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26. why yes..yes he is
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Beavker Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:32 PM
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27. I love the former Reagan Cronies
Blasting more and more of his worshippers. They don't even realize that prominant people in Reagan's Presidency are bashing them, while they continue to praise RR as their God.

I suppose it doesn't matter. They need an Idol, and they aren't going to let truch get in their way of worshipping him.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:47 PM
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28. well a former Reagan official would have to be considered an expert on the subject

Perry should now be considered 'certifiable'.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 01:57 PM
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29. I think the GOP is intentionally setting up their main candidates to fail.
So that someone much scarier will fly in under the radar and win. Seems it's going that way.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:07 PM
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35. Jeb?
:scared:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:38 PM
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38. Jeb would be an instant loss for them.
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:00 PM
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34. Scary Perry is a "holy roller:"
And a Dominionist. But he's NOT an idiot. Beware "idiot" candidates..look what happened the last time an "idiot" candidate was taken for granted (GWB). Perry would be 100X worse than GWB. The Country simply COULD NOT recover from Perry in the WH. You've been warned.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 05:26 AM
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51. There's no indication yet the country could recover from any President after Carter.
Bill Clinton's repeal of Glass Steagall and other deregulation, for instance.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 03:08 PM
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36. It's a Good Thing. American voters apparently love idiots. n/t
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tgal Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-11 06:58 PM
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40. Yeah Bruce, and so was reagan
Still remember that racist clap trap he spewed about 'welfare queens driving cadillacs' lies.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 04:33 AM
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42. As opposed to Reagan?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 09:45 AM
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53. I read Bartlett's book in which he admits that all of Reaganomics was a failure
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-11 02:39 PM
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55. Kick
:kick:
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