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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:05 PM
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Gay republicans say its hard to back Bush
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 05:06 PM by JoFerret
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/politics/8459624.ht...

PALM SPRINGS, Calif. - Gay Republicans are stung by President Bush's support for a ban on same-sex marriages and are divided over where to turn in November, with many weighing party loyalty against outrage.

"I'm going to have a hard time going with Bush. In my good conscience, I don't know how I can support him," said Shawn Gardner, one of several hundred party members attending this weekend's annual convention of the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay GOP organization that backed Bush in 2000.

"It's difficult for me to reconcile him having turned his back on an organization that supported him," said Gardner, who was among an estimated 1 million gays who voted for the president four years ago.

Many gays see the proposed amendment banning gay marriage as an assault on equal rights.

The Log Cabin Republicans have aired 30-second TV ads in several states featuring Vice President Dick Cheney and a remark he made in a debate four years ago: "People should be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to enter into."

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Don't know why they ever did but all erosion helps.




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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:06 PM
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1. In other news, Jack Ruby murders Lee Harvey Oswald . . . .
:eyes:
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:07 PM
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2. ROTFL - You just made me inhale my drink.
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SmokeyBlues Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:14 PM
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3. Lazy con
"It's difficult for me to reconcile him having turned his back on an organization that supported him," said Gardner, who was among an estimated 1 million gays who voted for the president four years ago.

Hey Shawn! What you and other Log Cabin Republicans are currently experiencing has been around for a long time. It's called the lazy con and I learned how it worked when I was a boy growing up in the South End of Boston many years ago.

Sheesh!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:39 PM
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5. Ok, two questions...

What's "log cabin republicans", and what is the "lazy con"?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:47 PM
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9. Log Cabin Republicans...
... and organization of gay Repukes... although the only cabin I think they're familiar with is Uncle Tom's Cabin.

See: http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/index.html
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:51 PM
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10. omg


:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:13 PM
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19. Strange that their site is down
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:22 PM
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4. well DUH
smart bunch aren't they...geezuz FUCKING christ... :crazy:
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:56 PM
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17. Same reaction...what a bunch of dumbasses.[nt]
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:59 PM
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18. Ditto (I've always wanted to say that!)
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:42 PM
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6. They may be my Gay brothers...
But they are about as smart s Nader Supporters!
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:45 PM
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7. Odd that you found that article in the Macon Telegraph...
...Macon isn't exactly a bastion of gayness.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:46 PM
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8. Gays Who Back Bush
Um....why the HELL would they vote for someone who panders to the minority of Americans who think they are sub-human and should have NO rights at all?

Seriously! I've seen those RW-ers go on about the "homosexual agenda" what sense does that term even MAKE? Do I have a "female heterosexual agenda??" It's all just bizarre to me, the way they think.

I had a penpal in Baghdad whose wife was Reserves and also stationed in Iraq -- their three kids were being raised by grandparents for over a year, however, it's the gays getting married that "threaten the family."

I wonder how many THOUSANDS of families, US and Iraqi, have been broken by this damned war.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:16 PM
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20. When was the last time that a Republican candidate supported
gays? (Presidential)

Did Eisenhower?
Did Nixon?
Did Goldwater?
Did Reagan?
Did Bush I?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:18 PM
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11. The next question would be,
why are they even staying in the Rim-publican party? This is the party by the intolerant, hypocrites, white anglo-saxon supremacists, fanatic right, bloated fatties who comprise the wealthiest in this country.

I read the book, Blinded by The Right. (forgot his name). It was an eye-opening look into the sordidness of the Rat-publican party. It was ugly, I tell you.
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demoman123 Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:36 PM
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12. Where does the term "Log Cabin Republican" come from?
Is it a reference to Lincoln? And why him?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:57 PM
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14. It's supposed to be a reference
to the roots of the Republican Party, and their stated desire to 'change things from within.' Of course, Bush and the other neocons have shown that that is pure fantasy. Lincoln would spi on Bush.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:46 PM
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13. If any LCR wants to know WHY precisely they SHOULDN'T be GOP?
All they have to do is visit a public forum, like Yahoo message boards, or perhaps FreeRepublic, or that Lucianne Goldberg's place.. look for a reference to the articles out today about their group... then read the comments of their FELLOW GOPers. That should be enough to make them run screaming to the Democratic Party. The rank and file GOP do not want them, any more than the GOP brass does. If they'd being GOP for financial reasons, they need to do some damn research. They will ALWAYS fair better when the grown-ups (dems) are in charge. Our tent is huge.. they need to join us, and stop all this dancing with the devil they've been doing.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:58 PM
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15. Ooooooohhhh....
We just can't make up our minds if we should vote for him. I mean he betrayed us and all.

Clueless Morans (freep spelling).
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:10 PM
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16. I had to hold Partner back today
they are having their convention here in PSP and he wanted to go throw rotten eggs. I told him I did NOT want to get arrested, they won't let you take your meds to jail. Interestingly Andrew Sullivan is appanertly backing JK.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:22 PM
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21. hard to back Bush
It's hard when the CHIMP'S own chief law enforcer would love to get his fat sausage fingered hands around their necks and Clamp them In Prison as Sodomites.
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