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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:45 PM
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GOP's philosophical rift shown in Pennsylvania
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 04:47 PM by JoFerret
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&nc...

PHILADELPHIA While President Bush (news - web sites)'s reelection bid has inspired impressive Republican unity around the country, a GOP family feud in a crucial state could hurt him politically and harm the party's chances of retaining its Senate majority.

The chasm between Republican moderates and conservatives that Bush has labored to bridge throughout his presidency has been exposed in Pennsylvania in a contentious GOP Senate primary....


The fight has drawn national attention and will be spotlighted Monday when Bush campaigns for Specter in Pittsburgh because it is seen as a test of strength between competing visions of the Republican Party.


Specter, 74, is a vanishing breed of Republican a pragmatic, "Rockefeller Republican" who is a supporter of abortion rights, sympathetic to organized labor and an unabashed advocate of government spending to help his state and address social ills. He believes that an ideology that is too rigid narrows the reach of the GOP and polarizes the country....


Toomey, 42, is the prototype of a younger, post-Reagan generation of Republicans who are dedicated to cutting taxes, limiting government spending and ending abortion. He believes the party owes it to voters to stand for a clear, unwavering ideology.

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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:50 PM
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1. Spector is to Republicans
what Zell is to Democrats.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:54 PM
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3. I love what Spector did
During the Clinton Impeachment!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:55 PM
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4. I'd say
he's more of what Lieberman is to Democrats.

Chafee is probably more along the lines of Zell, considering Spector has voted with the admin. on the war, and other big parts of their agenda.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:03 PM
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5. Not even that comparison is valid
Chafee does not publically campaign for "the other side," as Miller does. I'd be willing to bet he'd be happier with Kerry in office than with Bush.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 06:29 AM
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16. True. I can't imagine
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 06:29 AM by fujiyama
what the republicans would have done if one of their senators had openly endorsed John Kerry.

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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:02 PM
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6. Not really...
Zell Miller has, I believe, endorsed Bush for "re"election. I don't expect Specter to endorse Kerry, and I don't think he has ever supported a Democrat for the presidency since he himself became a Republican a few decades ago.

Admittedly, he isn't nearly as big a sack of shit as our junior senator and many others on that side of the aisle.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:52 PM
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2. Am I an Ass or does Specter sound like a Democrat?
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:21 PM
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8. Specter has a lifetime ACU rating of 43...
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 06:22 PM by JavaJive
and a 2003 ACU rating of 65, so he seems to have been moving rightward, though not to the extreme right like Bush et al. His 2002 ADA rating, the most recent I could find, was 35. Not as bad as many Republicans, but not really my idea of a Democrat.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:03 PM
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7. Write it down - Toomey is toast.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:36 PM
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9. It feels weird to root for Arlen Spector
CREEPY! Argh!

haha

:bounce:

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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cholla Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:03 PM
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11. Not all Bad
It wouldn't be all bad if Toomey won the primary....perhaps he's far enough right, that the Dem challenger would win the general election.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:49 PM
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10. "impressive Republican unity"--really?
I know lots of Republicans who despise and will not vote for the Chimp. I don't know any Dems who will vote for him.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:25 PM
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12. Toomey is a right-wing Nazi.
He scares the living shit out of me. Everytime I see his commercials I am frightened of him. He runs very very negative commercials against Specter but says nothing about what he is going to do or how he is going to change things.

I hope Hoeffel wins in November.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 10:35 PM
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14. I don't know who to route for
Specter is the "safe" choice, but a part of me hopes the wingnut wins so he can go down in flames come November. Hmmmm, it's a risk, though. He could win a la In-Sanitorum.
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:43 PM
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13. The issue that separates Dems and Pukes is tax cuts for the rich.
Specter is for tax cuts for the rich. All other issues are there to divide the anti-tax cuts for the rich vote.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:28 PM
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15. I'm sure there are more than just one state in this GOP POLARIZATION
He's a divider not a uniter!!!!
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