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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:06 PM
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T.Star: Anti-Bush bake sales sweep U.S -- Impeachment Pie ...
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 02:33 PM by Iceburg
http://www.torontostar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?page...

Anti-Bush bake sales sweep U.S.



SAN FRANCISCO - Raising money to unseat U.S. President George W. Bush was a cakewalk Saturday, when a liberal advocacy group said it organized at least 1,000 bake sales across the United States to raise money for the effort.

The MoveOn political action committee, the political branch of MoveOn.org, co-ordinated bake sales from Maine to Hawaii that offered such treats as Beat Bush Brownies and No C.A.R.B. (Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Bush) Meringues. Early estimates Saturday placed the national tally for the bake sales at about $250,000.

...
In San Francisco's Dolores Park, Maitreya Badami, a 35-year-old criminal defence lawyer, served Bush Im'peach'ment Pie, cupcakes emblazoned with pink peace symbols and Karamels for Kerry, for Democratic contender John Kerry.

more ...
---------------------------
How about a bicycle/foot tour fund raiser? ...

Tour de Feet Bush

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Cigarskunk Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:09 PM
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1. Seems like a waste?
With George Soros dumping millions of dollars into MoveOn, I don't see the point in wasting thier time with this - or is this due to Congress going after the 529s for violating the BCFR law?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:14 PM
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2. Ever hear of community?
Building things from the grassroots is one thing the DLC dominated Democratic Party has forgotten about as they've gone whoring for the same corporate cash that has so corrupted the GOP. MoveOn, the Greens, the Deaniacs all know the power of organizing at the grassroots, of getting the word out face to face, one human being to another.

It's not about the money.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:20 PM
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53. I agree... it is good publicity that money can't buy...
It also brings out supporters that would never had even thought about doing something.

How many don't do anything because they weren't asked??

We have to provide opportunities for supporters to become activated.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:15 PM
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3. Grass roots is where its at ...
last time I checked only 51% of the eligible US population voted.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:49 PM
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15. OH YEAH!!! Grassroots in real life and time!!!
I love and admire MoveOn. They are one of the only organizations left that sincerely both loves and believes in the value of Americans!!!

Yoooo Hoooo!!!!!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:16 PM
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4. MoveOn has a grassroots base of millions
GOPers always play up the George Soros criticism. I wonder why you are bringing it up?

Most of us here have participated in at least one or more of MoveOn events.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:52 PM
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19. I don't "wonder" why Soros is being brought up,...
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 02:53 PM by Just Me
,...not for a minute. I know better than that! Unlike Dubya,...I can say it straight,..."fool me once, shame on you,....fool me twice, shame on me". Of course, only fools could fail to get that one straight *LOL*!!!

:bounce:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:16 PM
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5. Soros gave us a start--- but you can't beat
tons of people backing the play, I went to one today and it was a great
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MsChiff Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:22 PM
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8. MoveOn specifically stated......
that they wanted to find a way to get ALL of their members physically involved and this was a good way to do it.

Just wondering if anybody here participated in one of the bake sales. Ours in Akron, OH didn't get coordinated in time. They've moved the date to next Saturday, but still do not have a location set. What was the trick to getting your sale planned so quickly? Our coordinator is being told that we have to have a license from the health dept. to go ahead with this!

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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:11 PM
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41. Try calling your local union halls...
... for help in securing a location. I think there are plenty in the Akron area that would appreciate being involved.
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MsChiff Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:27 PM
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45. Thank you!
I appreciate your helpfulness!
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:12 PM
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52. Alexandria Virginia
Had a wonderful sale outside a local bookstore. The weather was great, the food was tooooooo goood, and I spent 15 bucks on brownies, soft chocolate chip cookies, and a couple of little muffins.

There was a constant flow of moveon people, kerry supporters, ex-deaniacs (often these being the same person.)

I hope they do it again, and do it often.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:27 PM
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10. A Waste????
What a ridiculous statement. Money is not the end-all. The MoveOn activities are bringing people of all persuasions together. They are finally leaving their couch's and TV's and coming together in dialog. Together they combine forces and willing give of their time and money to defeat an attack on our Democracy by this Bush Administration. Young, old, working, retired, rich, poor, Democrat, Republican, Independent....all are proud to "waste", their time in order to end the destruction that the Neocons have laid on us. "Waste of time," I think not!
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:42 PM
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12. I don't think Soros
is dumping millions into MoveOn, I think his big bucks have gone into the Media Fund organization, or some name like that. MoveOn start during the Clinton impeachment period, over the internet with ordinary people who were against the impeachment. I think you are confusing MoveOn with the other organization.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:48 PM
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14. seems like a freeper?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:54 PM
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21. No one could fool you twice, huh, *LOL* (eom)
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. Well, anyone who derides grassroots efforts as..


"a waste", is not a democrat in my book.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #25
35. That would be like,..."anti-democracy",...huh!!!!
We are good to go.

Humanity is proving it's real worth in spite of corporatist governance.

A very good thing!!!!!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #14
24. This one also likes
to quote newsmax, hmmmmmm.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:57 PM
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23. Gets everyone involved
if it wasn't a good idea then the freepers wouldn't have copied it and set up their own, surprised you didn't know that.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:25 PM
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29. Cigarskunk
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
30. Hiya Troll...Thanks
for giving this thread attention. Responding to you has kept it up front. And not, of course that any one of us finds this a distraction from BushLies and the IWaq war.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:26 PM
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48. One person
might give the cause a lot of money, but the real effort is engaging people and having them participate. It's only by true pressing the flesh and meeting new people that the true message is spread. Dean knew that value--500 donors of $5 each is 500 votes versus two contributors of $1250 is two votes. Don't knock grassroots efforts, because liberals know that it's people that count, NOT the money they contribute. Repukes can brag about their $2000 donors, but when it comes right down to it, we've got the people who know the truth.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:25 PM
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55. You'll love this...
http://sludgereport.blogspot.com /



BUSH TO STAND ON ONE FOOT UNTIL EVIL-DOERS GIVE UP

http://sludgereport.blogspot.com /
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:19 PM
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6. I patronized the NYC bake sale in
Union Square yesterday and it was great how many people were there asking questions, signing up to get involved (me) and bashing Bush*.

It was a great little consciousness raising/community building event in the middle of the Farmers Market, so lots of traffic and very reassuring to see so many people gather and offer support.
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Damfino Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:22 PM
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7. Why bash this?
I saw one in NYC yesterday. Great energy and spirit from the grassroots. From the real people. Simple and powerful.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:50 PM
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16. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:32 PM
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31. What are you talking about??
I wasn't bashing it - I was being serious! I thought it was great. What is with some of you anyway? - you see malice where there is none.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. was refering to post who said it was a "waste"

dont look for insults where there are none.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:34 PM
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33. Who's bashing?
what are you talking about?
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. I think its a classic case of "Who's on first" ... ie. replying
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 03:38 PM by Iceburg
to the wrong thread mistakenly. Settle down you two! :-)
The offending author/freeper is cigarskunk.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. There you go!!! Reject those who would divide the team!!!
We are all still, a team, for a real democracy. The "basic" rule is mutual respect. One very wonderful rule.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:57 AM
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57. oops...never mind.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #7
49. Welcome to DU, Damfino!
Glad to have you... :hi: :toast:
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 04:28 AM
Response to Reply #7
60. Hi, Damfino -
Welcome to DU!
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:26 PM
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9. "Im'peach'ment Pie" - gotta luv that sense of humor!
.
.
.

And the choice of words like "cakewalk"

That writer sure was having fun!

Good on him.

:thumbsup:

And MOveon.org could be the best thing that hit the US in decades!

From the article:

"Ruben said a single e-mail to the MoveOn.org list was all it took to recruit 10,000 volunteers for Bake Back the White House in less than a week."

/snip/

Now THAT's a response alright!



.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:35 PM
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11. MoveOn saw a political need before anyone else did
And they built a very workable organization to support that need. Now they are strong enough to fight off the powerful attacks of the GOP money machine.

They are great.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Jan 56% ... Feb 48% ... March 47% ... April 43%. - YES !
.
.
.

Keep that momentum !

For ALL of us.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:50 PM
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17. and those numbers would be???
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. I'm glad someone asked!
Do you have a link? IF so, post it!
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:07 PM
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26. A couple
<snip>
Consider the following. After a month where Bush spent heavily on campaign ads attacking John Kerry and where the economy finally turned in a good performance on creating jobs, the president's political position has gotten substantially worse, not better.

The latest Pew Research Center poll, conducted April 14 and overlapping with the release of March's strong jobs report, has his overall job approval rating at 43 percentthe worst rating in any public poll of his presidencywith 47 percent disapproval. The same poll has his approval rating on the economy at just 39 percent, with 53 percent disapproval.

In the latest CBS News poll, his economic approval rating is even worse: 37 percent approval/56 percent disapproval (30 percent/59 percent disapproval, almost two to one, among independents). And that's at the end of a strong economic month for the administration.

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF...

<snip>
The stakes could hardly be higher. Mr Brahimi's report on whether the 30 June deadline for a handover is still possible will be a defining moment for Mr Bush's nascent presidential campaign. Polls already place the President six to 10 points behind his Democrat challenger, Senator John Kerry, and the key approval rating on his handling of the war has slipped from 51 per cent to 44 per cent in recent weeks.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.j...
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #18
58. Here are the Bush approval ratings and Election Polling vs. Kerry
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 01:04 AM by TruthIsAll
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #17
27.  . . look up, - they are in the sigline of the post I responded to
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Yes those are the "Bush's approval ratings-Pew"
The trend numbers I got off of Daily Kos who keeps tracks of the numbers. On the Pew site you would have to gather up the numbers from all the press releases. The April release verifying the 43% number is here:

http://www.pewtrusts.com/ideas/ideas_item.cfm?content_i...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:54 PM
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20. I hope this is not the only one they set up. MORE, PLEASE!
I'd like to buy some ImPEACHment Pie!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 02:54 PM
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22. Successful! They're doing more in San Jose for sure. Wish I had known!
http://www.moveon.org/pac/news/1000bakesales.html

The whole country should do this again!!!
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:03 PM
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37. it was a great idea
Not just the fundraising (which is always needed) but it DID get people out and working for change.

I helped at the sale cited in the article in Prairie Village, and in the red state of Kansas we sold $500 worth of stuff *an hour*. Lots of families, kids, great people who care about their country and want to do something. There was a signup table where new Democrats were registered, volunteers were gathered for the Kerry campaign, and precinct workers in Kansas were recruited.

All this and not a single freeper showed up to mouth off at us. In Kansas, this is progress.

So, it wasn't just a bake sale, it was people in the community coming together to take our friggin' country back. And I'm sure this is what scares the rightwingers.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. Great story you told there. Thanks
Too often the states with GOP majorites get written off and they are just full of good people and democrats.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #38
39. I Went To Four Of These And Had A GREAT TIME!!
I bought one cookie each at 2 of them and gave them $5 -- the other two, I just gave the $5 because they had totally sold out within an hour.

I can't think of a better way to spend $20 than supporting people willing to give up a Saturday to help defeat Bush. I met some really great, fun people too. This idea os a winner -- they should do it once a month.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. If these bake sales keep flaring up over America
Rummy's going to have recall the troops to disrupt this domestic uprisin'.

I can see it now ...

Executive Order 666-B: Permits Required for ALL Baking Utensils

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #40
54. Can we insert those baking utensils in his cavity?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:29 PM
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42. How about Ebay for America?
we could have the mother of all garage sales on Ebay! Is it possible to set up an Ebay "store' for such an endevor? (I've never sold anything on the site myself).
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. NOT ebay...
That Repuke-loving company gleefully passes along info on all its customers to the Feds, as in tracking the transactions of ebay users. I wouldn't trust them AT ALL with something like this and I doubt they would allow it anyway.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #43
56. Then post a better idea
I think it would be a great way to make loads of money for the cause. A lot of people from other countries would like to see Bush go, and they buy on Ebay.

One of the reasons repugs do so much better at organization and activism is because they don't spend as much time shooting down one anothers ideas for such. They just do it.
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 05:48 PM
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44. I and my family are enjoying the $40 worth of Bite Me Bush brownies
Remember, every little bit helps to get rid of Bush!
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:15 PM
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46. We had ours today and raised almost $1500.00 (Sacramento Photos)
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 08:20 PM by Melinda
We had dozens of bakers, helpers, and people buying our goodies to help Beat Back Bush and "Bake Back Our Democracy"!!

This was a first time even of this kind for many of those who attended, and the reception was amazing. One wonderful man donated $100 and left with a delectable Guiness Stout Cake - talk about an expensive dessert! ;)

We registered 2 new voters and had countless others sign our MoveOn pledges too.

I think the most moving part of the day for me was listening to Devon (age 7) and Miles (age 7 and holding the sign below), explain that America should never make war on people who have not hurt us, and that the President of the United States should never, ever lie. Those of us listening became quiet and cried softly while these wise little children spoke so honestly and matter of factly - children simply 'get it' - and they grabbed our heartstrings.


Miles in action!



Media there too - we made the evening news!



Defeating George W. Bush - Priceless!!



Randy provided refreshments



This gent provided levity ;)


And we're doing it again - as many times as it takes - till we have finally removed Bush* from OUR WhiteHouse. :)





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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #46
47. Congratulations and thank you for sharing the very
eloquent words of the children and the inspiring pics.

A friend in Canada.


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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. Good job you guys! We have to turn this into a National event. MoveOn
must provide professional coordination on the dates. And a Guiness record for the most cookies baked/sold in a single day! Get with it MoveOn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone will help!
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 03:48 AM
Response to Reply #46
59. Beautiful!!
Yes, the children 'get it'. That's one thing that's so sad about the Ira*i children.
They certainly have no way of 'understanding' WHY :cry:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:32 PM
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50. I'm going to one in my neighborhood on May 8.
Can't wait. I'll ask 'em if they need more baked goods.
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