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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:00 PM
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Obama Nominates Top Mike Lee Advisor as U.S. Attorney
Source: By Ian Miller, Think Progress

President Obama nominated a very odd candidate to be the next U.S. Attorney in Utah, the chief legal advisor to the Senate’s most radical tenther, Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT):
President Barack Obama tapped Sen. Mike Lee’s legal counsel to be the next U.S. attorney for Utah, a move that infuriated Democrats from the state and ended a lengthy political drama over who would claim the high-profile position.

The White House on Tuesday announced the nomination of David Barlow. He will need to win Senate confirmation before he can claim the spot as Utah’s top federal prosecutor, a job that has remained vacant since the end of 2009.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/03/286554/wtf-... /



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  - reaching out to the party he's most comfortable with, I gather...  villager   Aug-03-11 02:01 PM   #1 
  - Amazing! Can there be no end?  seeker4ever   Aug-03-11 02:02 PM   #4 
  - no, honey. he has a nobel prize for nothing and he never looked  roguevalley   Aug-03-11 03:52 PM   #36 
     - + 1  seeker4ever   Aug-03-11 08:48 PM   #54 
  - The Tea Party faction  roxiejules   Aug-03-11 02:23 PM   #18 
  - SELLOUT.  Poll_Blind   Aug-03-11 02:02 PM   #2 
  - It it walks like a Republican...  Ozymanithrax   Aug-03-11 02:02 PM   #3 
  - Not being contrary, just curious  Proud Public Servant   Aug-03-11 02:03 PM   #5 
  - So it doesn't matter? I mean, what's the point? Winning favor with...?  seeker4ever   Aug-03-11 02:05 PM   #7 
  - I Don't Recall Republicans Being so Concerned With Appeasing Democrats...  seeker4ever   Aug-03-11 02:06 PM   #8 
  - My point was merely  Proud Public Servant   Aug-03-11 02:16 PM   #13 
  - Bush appointed Republican Chris Christie as the Attorney for New Jersey  Dawson Leery   Aug-03-11 02:07 PM   #9 
  - OK, I stand corrected  Proud Public Servant   Aug-03-11 02:13 PM   #11 
  - He was unanimously confirmed by said Senators.  msanthrope   Aug-03-11 02:23 PM   #19 
  - Please don't inject fact into this. When Bush asked Schumer for support in appointing  msanthrope   Aug-03-11 02:13 PM   #12 
  - Mike Garcia was well qualified for the job, unlike Obama's candidate.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:29 PM   #31 
     - Garcia prosecuted the defendants in the '93 World Trade Center bombing.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:45 PM   #35 
     - Prove that assertion. Barlow worked at the same firm as the Obamas.  msanthrope   Aug-03-11 04:11 PM   #38 
        - I spelled out Barlow's lack of qualifications in posts 27, 28 & 30  Divernan   Aug-03-11 05:02 PM   #42 
        - I'm still waiting for you to post a single reason he's unqualified.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 12:56 AM   #57 
           - As previously detailed, he has ZERO experience in every single area of the US Attorney's purview.  Divernan   Aug-04-11 07:58 AM   #66 
              - Really? You haven't posted a single case Barlow's actually worked on.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:10 AM   #69 
                 - Obama just needed a qualified Republican lawyer - there are many out there.  Divernan   Aug-04-11 08:20 AM   #73 
                    - Your own source, downthread, details how Schumer's and Durbin's lawyers are now AUSAs.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:44 AM   #78 
        - When appointed, Garcia had more qualifications in his little finger than Barlow's whole body!  Divernan   Aug-03-11 05:09 PM   #43 
           - I'm still waiting for you to post a single reason Barlow's unqualified.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 12:58 AM   #58 
              - His chosen job was screwing consumers for Big Corps.  Divernan   Aug-04-11 08:09 AM   #68 
              - So, because one's clientele is objectionable, you are incompetent?  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:14 AM   #71 
                 - No. One's irrelevant area of practise makes one unqualified.  Divernan   Aug-04-11 08:21 AM   #74 
                    - Complex tort and class action work disqualifies you from government service?  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:35 AM   #77 
              - False standard. Name one reason Teabagger Barlow is the only person qualified for this position.  No Elephants   Aug-04-11 09:43 AM   #83 
  - I thought that was more of how  cstanleytech   Aug-03-11 02:30 PM   #23 
     - No, that's up to the state's governor  Proud Public Servant   Aug-03-11 02:33 PM   #24 
        - My apologies  cstanleytech   Aug-03-11 04:44 PM   #40 
  - Hillary would HAVE been better than Obama.  Dawson Leery   Aug-03-11 02:04 PM   #6 
  - The Blame Game  BNJMN   Aug-03-11 08:30 PM   #50 
  - Bad enough he never fired the Bushco AG's, now he's nominating one Rethug after another.  No Elephants   Aug-03-11 02:12 PM   #10 
  - Remember Ted Olson?  loyalsister   Aug-03-11 02:17 PM   #14 
  - There were homosexual leaders in the Nazi party, too. nt.  OnyxCollie   Aug-03-11 02:21 PM   #17 
  - Did you just compare Ted Olsen to a gay Nazi? Is that a  msanthrope   Aug-03-11 02:25 PM   #21 
  - This guy is no Ted Olsen.  No Elephants   Aug-04-11 09:32 AM   #80 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-03-11 02:18 PM   #15 
  - jumping jesus on a pogo stick!!!  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-03-11 02:19 PM   #16 
  - here's the rest of them from yesterday  cal04   Aug-03-11 02:23 PM   #20 
  - By the "guilt by association" thinking? Not in the least.  Igel   Aug-03-11 02:28 PM   #22 
  - I don't know why you think injecting logic and facts into an anti-Obama screamfest  msanthrope   Aug-03-11 02:40 PM   #26 
  - Barlow donated $4800 to Lee's campaign  roxiejules   Aug-03-11 08:35 PM   #52 
     - I notice no answer to this!  Bluebear   Aug-04-11 06:50 AM   #65 
  - As early as the transition period Obama picked Republicans to his cabinet  alp227   Aug-03-11 02:34 PM   #25 
  - This is a travesty. His only qualification - connection with Michele Obama's former employer.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:00 PM   #27 
  - This guy is the anti-consumer advocate.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:07 PM   #28 
     - Here's examples of the American consumers screwed by his legal practise.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:27 PM   #30 
     - Excellent info, Diverman  appal_jack   Aug-03-11 09:09 PM   #55 
     - This post argues for Barlow's competency.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 01:15 AM   #60 
     - He represented AstroZeneca Pharma & General Electric.  Divernan   Aug-04-11 08:02 AM   #67 
        - So you don't like his clientele. So what?  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:30 AM   #76 
     - Thank you for looking that up for us. n /t  EFerrari   Aug-04-11 02:34 AM   #62 
     - Barlow also donated $4800 to Lee's campaign  roxiejules   Aug-03-11 08:37 PM   #53 
        - Under Obama, US Attorney appointments are going cheap!  Divernan   Aug-04-11 08:22 AM   #75 
           - Are you suggesting the seat was sold by Obama for a campaign contribution to Lee?  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:50 AM   #79 
  - just switch parties, most don't believe you anymore  fascisthunter   Aug-03-11 03:21 PM   #29 
  - +1  pam4water   Aug-03-11 03:41 PM   #33 
  - OH FFS. K&R even though it's more bad news.  pam4water   Aug-03-11 03:41 PM   #32 
  - This was a set up from the beginning.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:42 PM   #34 
  - Here are the specific concerns listed at OP's Think Progress link:  Divernan   Aug-03-11 03:56 PM   #37 
  - Do you have any of Barlow's views?  msanthrope   Aug-03-11 04:40 PM   #39 
     - You're supporting him. You tell us his views.  Divernan   Aug-03-11 05:17 PM   #44 
        - How is "msanthrope" supporting the guy exactly?  cstanleytech   Aug-03-11 05:24 PM   #45 
        - Referring to factual accounts of Barlow as "anti-Obama screamfest"  Divernan   Aug-03-11 05:34 PM   #47 
           - Interesting.  cstanleytech   Aug-03-11 05:46 PM   #48 
           - Again, you haven't told us why Mr. Barlow is unqualified.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 01:10 AM   #59 
              - Of course I have, repeatedly. You fail to respond to facts.  Divernan   Aug-04-11 08:11 AM   #70 
                 - You haven't cited a single case Barlow actually worked on. You've just noted that he's had clients  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 08:19 AM   #72 
        - Can you name a single view of Mr. Barlow's?  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 12:54 AM   #56 
        - No, in our system, the rebuttable presumption is that the President picked a competent person.  msanthrope   Aug-04-11 01:45 AM   #61 
           - There's no rebuttable presumption of competence, nor does your quote say there is.  No Elephants   Aug-04-11 09:37 AM   #81 
  - I'm getting neck whiplash from Obama...  SoapBox   Aug-03-11 04:51 PM   #41 
  - Two options imo  cstanleytech   Aug-03-11 05:30 PM   #46 
     - Could be both. [nt]  BNJMN   Aug-03-11 08:31 PM   #51 
     - When is anything done in DC on a merit basis?  EFerrari   Aug-04-11 02:35 AM   #63 
     - is he doin' this for shits n' giggles? I mean really!!! these choices are so bizarre.  Divine Discontent   Aug-04-11 03:20 AM   #64 
     - There is only this one man in the U.S. qualified to fill this position? Baloney.  No Elephants   Aug-04-11 09:41 AM   #82 
  - no surprises.  marasinghe   Aug-03-11 05:56 PM   #49 
 
villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:01 PM
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1. reaching out to the party he's most comfortable with, I gather...
n/t
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:02 PM
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4. Amazing! Can there be no end?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:52 PM
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36. no, honey. he has a nobel prize for nothing and he never looked
back. he likes cavier and despair as long as it isn't his own.
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:48 PM
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54. + 1
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:23 PM
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18. The Tea Party faction
Mike Lee is part of the Tea Party.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/03/286554/wtf-... /


•Will Barlow Vigorously Protect Seniors’ Right To Social Security? As a Senate candidate, Lee claimed that it is unconstitutional for the federal government to provide “a decent retirement plan.” Barlow should disavow this radical belief before he can be confirmed.

•Will Barlow Vigorously Protect Seniors’ Right To Medicare? In the same speech, Lee also claimed that it is unconstitutional for the federal government to provide “health care” — a view that would invalidate Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP and the Affordable Care Act. Barlow should also disavow this radical belief before he can be confirmed.

•Will Barlow Enforce Child Labor Laws? Lee believes that child labor laws are unconstitutional because the Constitution “was designed to be a little bit harsh.” Before Barlow can be a U.S. Attorney, he must swear under oath that he will enforce federal child labor laws without reservation.

Barlow’s decision to leave a successful and lucrative law practice in order to work for someone with Lee’s contempt for the Constitution raises serious concerns about Barlow’s fitness to serve as Utah’s top federal attorney.




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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:02 PM
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2. SELLOUT.
PB
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:02 PM
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3. It it walks like a Republican...
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 02:03 PM by Ozymanithrax
and quacks like a republican

it isn't a duck.
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Proud Public Servant Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:03 PM
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5. Not being contrary, just curious
Hasn't it been a long-standing practice, across party lines, to defer to a state's senators when picking their US attorneys?
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:05 PM
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7. So it doesn't matter? I mean, what's the point? Winning favor with...?
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:06 PM
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8. I Don't Recall Republicans Being so Concerned With Appeasing Democrats...
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Proud Public Servant Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:16 PM
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13. My point was merely
that, if I were correct, then I see no point in criticizing the president for following a long-established protocol. However, I appear to have confused the appointment of US attorneys with some other kind of federal appointment, and have said so below.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:07 PM
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9. Bush appointed Republican Chris Christie as the Attorney for New Jersey
even though the state had two Democratic senators at the time.
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Proud Public Servant Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:13 PM
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11. OK, I stand corrected
Must have been thinking of something else.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:23 PM
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19. He was unanimously confirmed by said Senators.
Not for anything, but not a single Senator objected, Democrat or not.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:13 PM
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12. Please don't inject fact into this. When Bush asked Schumer for support in appointing
Mike Garcia to Manhattan, no one here lost their shit.....

But if Obama does it???? You know, confer with the elected offficals of a state???? Please.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:29 PM
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31. Mike Garcia was well qualified for the job, unlike Obama's candidate.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:45 PM
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35. Garcia prosecuted the defendants in the '93 World Trade Center bombing.
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 03:46 PM by Divernan
He had outstanding legal experience and credentials to become a US Attorney, unlike Obama's GOP corporate law guy.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:11 PM
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38. Prove that assertion. Barlow worked at the same firm as the Obamas.
I think they have a better idea of his qualifications than you do.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:02 PM
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42. I spelled out Barlow's lack of qualifications in posts 27, 28 & 30
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 05:06 PM by Divernan
Barack was only there for one summer internship. Michele was an associate - didn't make partner, and left in 1993 to take a city administrator job. So neither of them was there when Barlow worked there. You are pretty sloppy in your posting. Why would you claim they had any idea of his qualifications? YOU prove your claim, kiddo. What Michele and Baarack DID know was the kind of cutthroat corporate law this firm practised, so there would have been a presumption that anyone who made partner there, as Barlow did, and then went to work for a Tea Party whacko senator, was not a particularly fine human being.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:56 AM
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57. I'm still waiting for you to post a single reason he's unqualified.
You may not like his clients, but you have yet to posit a single reason why I would think that Barack Obama has picked someone incompetent.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 07:58 AM
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66. As previously detailed, he has ZERO experience in every single area of the US Attorney's purview.
Thank you so much for the opportunity to reiterate my previous posts, and even add a little more detail on this nominee's lack of qualifications.

Obama's nominee's entire & relatively brief legal career has been spent defending corporations such as General Electric and Astra-Zenaca from product liability and class action suits. Product liability & class actions are not of concern to the U.S. Attorney's office. The major portion of USA's work deals with criminal actions & appellate reviews thereof.

As to heading a federal government office, his only government experience has been working for a freshman senator since last January. Further, he has no administrative experience. He would not be a credible nominee for District Attorney of a small county, let alone US Attorney for an entire state. If you have ANY factual information to the contrary, we progressives would be just super delighted to read them.


Here's the list of of areas for which the U.S. Attorney's office has responsibility. As THE U.S. Attorney, he would be in charge of all of these.

Divisions of the U.S. Attorney's Office
District of Utah


Criminal Division

Civil Division

Appellate Section

Asset Forfeiture Section

National Security Section

* Immigration Unit
* Identity Theft Unit

Narcotics Section

Violent Crime Section

* Project Safe Neighborhood Unit

White Collar/ Economic Crimes Section


ACE Section

Financial Litigation Unit
Administration

Budget Management

Facilities

Personnel Resources

Information Technology

Litigation Support
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:10 AM
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69. Really? You haven't posted a single case Barlow's actually worked on.
You also haven't posted a single reason why he's unqualified.

Now, are you truly arguing that every US Attorney pick is an expert in all areas you posted? Please. That's why there are division heads that report to the US attorney.

Of course, neither you nor any other poster on this board has explained how a President, who does not have cloture, and has two Senators who can blue line, AND who failed to get the suggested Democrat nominee (David Schwendiman) through, is supposed to do something other than appoint a US attorney the two Repuke Senators agree on.

The job's been open a long while. You tell us how a Democrat gets in.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:20 AM
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73. Obama just needed a qualified Republican lawyer - there are many out there.
And "please" yourself - a tea party Senator's staffer? Outrageous.

Putting your words in my mouth - doesn't fly. Name one, just ONE area in which this guy is qualified.

(I pointed out that Criminal law experience is the most important qualification. Go back and look at Garcia's qualifications
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:44 AM
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78. Your own source, downthread, details how Schumer's and Durbin's lawyers are now AUSAs.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 08:56 AM by msanthrope
And Mike Zuberensky's last job was pushing through two SCOTUS nominees. Before that, he was civil rights, not criminal.

You do realize that Hatch blocked a Republican for this spot, too? Scott Burns. Hatch and Lee want this guy. Explain to us all the magic math that puts a Democrat AUSA--or even a republican Hatch does not like, into this job.

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:09 PM
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43. When appointed, Garcia had more qualifications in his little finger than Barlow's whole body!
Why are you so sloppy in your accusations and claims. Garcia is currently one of the leading candidates for the next director of the FBI. You need to keep up on current affairs more.
http://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cfm?contentid=220&i...

Prior to his appointment as U.S. Attorney, Mr. Garcia spent two years as Assistant Secretary for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at the Department of Homeland Security. As head of ICE, he oversaw an agency of 20,000 employees responsible for enforcing a broad range of criminal laws, including the Arms Export Control Act, the International Traffic in Arms Regulations and various money laundering statutes.

From 2001 to 2002, as Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Export Enforcement in the Bureau of Industry and Security, Mr. Garcia was the top federal official responsible for enforcing the Export Administration Act and related export control regulations. In that post, he supervised federal agents in investigating violations of the export control laws governing dual-use goods and technology and restrictions on exports to embargoed nations such as Iran and Cuba. He also participated in international negotiations over end-use agreements for exports of sensitive U.S. products.

Mr. Garcia was Vice President of the Americas for Interpol, the international police organization. While Vice President, he served on Interpol's Executive Committee, the body charged with overseeing the budget and strategic direction of the organization.

From 1992 to 2001, Mr. Garcia was a federal prosecutor with the Office of the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. During that time, he personally prosecuted a number of high-profile cases, involving national security and complex extraterritorial issues, including the 1993 terrorist bombing of the World Trade Center and the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in East Africa. For his work on these cases, Mr. Garcia was twice awarded the Department of Justice's Exceptional Service Award, the Department's highest honor, as well as the Distinguished Service Award.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:58 AM
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58. I'm still waiting for you to post a single reason Barlow's unqualified.
You may not like his clients, but do you have any evidence he isn't good at his job?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:09 AM
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68. His chosen job was screwing consumers for Big Corps.
If that's what you consider a qualification for a USA, what are you doing here?

If you needed oncological surgery, would you go to a doc whose entire practise has been selling nose jobs to the wealthy?

I certainly understand that you will not admit the validity of any facts which I present here, let alone present any factual response to them. Your opinion has no factual basis. So be it.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:14 AM
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71. So, because one's clientele is objectionable, you are incompetent?
That's a surprising argument for a law professor to make.

Again, neither you nor any poster on this board has explained how, since the suggested Democrat failed, and Obama has two blue lining Senators--AND, doesn't have cloture, he is supposed to get a Democrat into Utah.

Explain the magical math to me that gets this job filled with a Democrat.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:21 AM
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74. No. One's irrelevant area of practise makes one unqualified.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:35 AM
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77. Complex tort and class action work disqualifies you from government service?
I seriously doubt you would make that argument if he was a plaintiff's attorney. he was Yale Law Review, a Truman Scholar, and a partner doing mass tort and complex litigation defense. He's no idiot, with a degree from Regents.

Rather, I think you just don't like his clients. Which is a stance that I find baffling from a law professor....

Would you argue that a criminal defense attorney, having defended someone objectionable, is no longer good for government service?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:43 AM
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83. False standard. Name one reason Teabagger Barlow is the only person qualified for this position.
Unless you can, Obama should not have chosen him.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:30 PM
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23. I thought that was more of how
a replacement for a senator who leaves office before their term was over (like Hillary did) is chosen?
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Proud Public Servant Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:33 PM
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24. No, that's up to the state's governor
Pure and simple. Prez has nothing to do with it.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:44 PM
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40. My apologies
I meant the part where they defer to the senator part over the appointment of someone to a post.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:04 PM
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6. Hillary would HAVE been better than Obama.
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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:30 PM
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50. The Blame Game
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:12 PM
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10. Bad enough he never fired the Bushco AG's, now he's nominating one Rethug after another.
Disappointment is not the word anymore.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:17 PM
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14. Remember Ted Olson?
Represented Bush in Bush v. Gore- as he was hired to do, served as *'s solicitor general.... then went on to represent people to overturn prop 8 in CA- with passion.
It may be hard to believe, but there are republicans who have professional ethics.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:21 PM
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17. There were homosexual leaders in the Nazi party, too. nt.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:25 PM
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21. Did you just compare Ted Olsen to a gay Nazi? Is that a
triple Godwin or something?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:32 AM
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80. This guy is no Ted Olsen.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 09:32 AM by No Elephants
Abe Lincoln was a great Republican. Has nothing to do with this guy, either.

Besides, what is wrong with a Democratic President appointing qualified Democrats. No shortage of them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:18 PM
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:19 PM
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16. jumping jesus on a pogo stick!!!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:23 PM
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20. here's the rest of them from yesterday
August 02, 2011
Presidential Nominations and Withdrawal Sent to the Senate

August 02, 2011
Presidential Nominations Sent to the Senate

August 02, 2011
President Obama Nominates Catherine Friend Easterly for the District of Columbia Court of Appeals

August 02, 2011
President Obama Nominates David B. Barlow to Serve as U.S. Attorney

August 02, 2011
President Obama Nominates Miranda Du to the United States District Court Bench

August 02, 2011
President Obama Nominates Judge Adalberto José Jordán to the United States Court of Appeals

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-and-...
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:28 PM
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22. By the "guilt by association" thinking? Not in the least.
I don't know how rabid or moderate Barlow is.


Now, consider that if you work for somebody you must share the same scurvy kinds of thinking. Any other assumption is strictly counterfactual. You work for a senator, or a team of partners, you must be like them. Birds of a feather and all that.

So when Barlow was out of law school, the people he worked for must have been similarly scum-sucker Neandertal retrograde (R). Yes?

And since birds of a feather hang to gether, that law firm would only have hired scum-sucker Neandertal retrograde (R). Right?

That is the "guilt by association" thinking.

Well, sorry then, because Barlow worked for the same firm Michelle Obama worked for.

In fact, he worked for the same law firm Barack Obama worked for. The place where he met the Michele pre-Obama.

http://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile/52312818-90/barlow-ut... might provide a hint.

I so love arguments by "association," where things are considered proven because there's some "link"--typically correlation, but sometimes just simple co-existence.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:40 PM
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26. I don't know why you think injecting logic and facts into an anti-Obama screamfest
is gonna help....
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:35 PM
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52. Barlow donated $4800 to Lee's campaign
http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=n...

I assume that means he supported his policies.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 06:50 AM
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65. I notice no answer to this!
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 02:34 PM
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25. As early as the transition period Obama picked Republicans to his cabinet
unsuccessfully he picked Republican senator Judd Gregg for commerce secretary
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:00 PM
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27. This is a travesty. His only qualification - connection with Michele Obama's former employer.
Never practiced criminal law.
Never practised law in Nevada.
Not licensed in Nevada.
Only 37 years old.
Got his first govt. job, working on a freshman senator's staff LAST FALL! Less than one year!
His legal experience was with a huge, Chicago based law firm, defending major corporations in class action or product liability suits.
This is the firm where Barack Obama did a summer internship, and where Michele Obama worked as an associate.

This is the same firm where Jim Connaughton was a partner in Sidley Austin's Environmental Practice Group, defending corporations in asbestos cases brought by American workmen who were dying from mesothelioma. This group would more aptly be described as the Environmental Rape Group, covering a wide range of environmental policy issues purely from a corporate perspective. Connaughton went on to be selected as chairman of George W. Bush's White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) Connaughton was the monster who forced Christine Whitman's EPA to falsify a report concluding there was no danger for rescue workers to go immediately onto Ground Zero - days after 9/11, and encouraging workers to return to their Wall Street jobs within days. The EPA report had identified many lethal elements in the air, and in the rubble, (witness all the workers who have died from breathing in the air and dust there) but Whitman was forced to leave reference to those out of her report.

This is the level of morality we're talking about with lawyers from the law firm of Sidley Austin. This is the firm where Michele Obama chose to work. It is NOT a plaintiff's firm. It is a corporate whore law firm. But hey - bet it's good for a big chunk of campaign contribution to our wanna be billion dollar candidate. Senator Mike Lee is another alumn of this law firm.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/52312818-90/barlo...

Barlow has worked as Lee’s top legal counsel since shortly after the freshman GOP senator won his 2010 election. Before that, Barlow was a partner in the Chicago office of Sidley and Austin, where he spent 10 years working on class-action suits involving pharmaceutical companies.

That is the same office where Michelle Obama worked as an associate and where in the early 1990s she met Barack Obama, who worked there as a summer associate.

Utah Democrats blasted Barlow’s background and expressed confusion over why the president would pick a Republican when qualified Democratic lawyers expressed interest.

"We are very disappointed in the decision," said Todd Taylor, the executive director of the Utah Democratic Party. "What’s the deal? Is there something in his background that we don’t understand or is there some sort of deal that was cut between the Obama administration and our senators? And what are they giving up for this? There are a lot of fine-print details on this that don’t make any sense."
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:07 PM
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28. This guy is the anti-consumer advocate.
Here's where all of his legal experience comes from - screwing injured consumers, specializing in those injured or killed by Big Pharma. The following is how this law firm proudly describes how it resists class certifications, beats down dying plaintiffs with aggressive discovery on behalf of just about every Big Corporate interest you can think of.

http://www.sidley.com/products_liability_class_action /


Our Practice
Products Liability Class Action Litigation

The landscape of class action litigation has changed in recent years, with the focus shifting from pharmaceutical personal injury cases—rarely certified under Rule 23—to a wide variety of consumer products and environmental contexts that may not be as susceptible to quick disposition. We have extensive experience assisting clients in defending against this evolving arena of lawsuits. Currently and in recent years, we have defended class actions in state and federal courts and in arbitrations throughout the country, at trial and before numerous appellate courts. Our representations have covered a diversity of products, including automobiles, food products, health and beauty products, computers, home appliances, housing materials, lawnmowers, motorcycles, over-the-counter medications, pest control products and services, pet foods, prescription drugs, telephone calling cards, vitamins, and many others.

We have successfully resisted class certification through aggressive discovery practice, negotiation, and innovative legal arguments. In addition, our lawyers have extensive experience in addressing procedural issues, including choice of law issues, that frequently arise in nationwide and multiple-statewide class actions. We are also experienced in defending duplicative, overlapping class actions that are filed in multiple jurisdictions, often in both state and federal courts.

Today, class actions and mass tort problems may involve not only civil litigation, but also regulatory considerations involving the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), as well as other federal and state agencies. Many of the lawyers in our group have extensive expertise and experience working with these agencies. Indeed, several lawyers in our group have held significant posts inside these agencies.

The interplay between class actions and arbitration is an ever-evolving issue in which the Supreme Court has recently become actively involved. Our lawyers have extensive experience litigating (before both courts and arbitrators) the issues of whether class action arbitration should even be permitted under the terms of the arbitration provision and, if so, whether class action arbitration is appropriate under the rules of the American Arbitration Association.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:27 PM
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30. Here's examples of the American consumers screwed by his legal practise.
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 03:34 PM by Divernan
From the law firm's website: these examples were handled by his firm in the past ten years, and he worked for them until less than a year ago, while he was working there in that section of the firm, i.e, defending class actions against corporations. The all cap comments in parenthesis are mine. Everything else is word for word from the firm's marketing website - meant to appeal to more corporate clients.


Our Practice
Listing of Recent Class Actions

Sidley has played a leading role in several nationwide or statewide class product liability class actions in the past ten years:

(AGAINST PEOPLE WHO CONTRACTED HEPATITIS C AND/OR HIV FROM BLOOD DERIVATIVES USED TO TREAT HEMOPHELIA)
* Sidley has directed the defense for a major pharmaceutical company for more than 20 years in litigation regarding blood derivatives used to treat hemophilia that have been alleged to have transmitted HIV and hepatitis C. Sidley has tried multiple cases in Florida, Illinois, Louisiana, Texas, and Arizona and has represented the client in years of federal multi-district litigation (“MDL”). After the MDL judge certified a nationwide “issue class,” Sidley briefed and argued a mandamus petition in the Seventh Circuit, overturning class certification in a landmark decision that laid the groundwork for defense of class actions in this Circuit (In re Rhone-Poulenc Rorer, Inc., 51 F.3d 1293 (7th Cir. 1995)). Sidley likewise defeated class certification in 2005 in a subsequent case, In re Factor VIII or IX Concentrate Blood Products Litig., No. 93 C 7452, 2005 WL 497782 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 1, 2005), in which plaintiffs from the United States and 27 other countries sought to certify a world-wide class of persons infected with hepatitis C or HIV from blood derivatives used to treat hemophilia.

(AGAINST CONSUMERS CHARGING DECEPTIVE MARKETING OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS)
* Sidley represented another major pharmaceutical company in a case in which the Arkansas Supreme Court affirmed the dismissal with prejudice of a putative nationwide class action challenging the company’s marketing of its prescription drug. The Court held that because the advertising is supported by the drug’s U.S. FDA-approved labeling, it is not actionable under the safe harbor provision of the Arkansas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, and likewise cannot support a common law fraud count. The company also prevailed on summary judgment and in defeating class certification in similar litigation filed in California; those rulings are now pending on appeal.

(AGAINST A LABOR UNION HEALTH FUND ON BEHALF OF ITS MEMBERS RE DRUG ADMINISTERED DURING SURGERY)
* Sidley represents another pharmaceutical company in a case brought in federal court in Florida in which plaintiff (a labor union health fund) alleged claims on behalf of themselves and a class of insurers arising under RICO, the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act, and common law theories of warranty and unjust enrichment, associated with the use of a drug administered during surgeries to insureds. The court dismissed the complaint on all counts, holding that plaintiffs could not allege a direct relationship between the purported fraud and the individual physician’s decision to administer the drug, and thus could not establish proximate cause. Plaintiff has appealed this case to the Eleventh Circuit.

(DECEPTION OF CONSUMERS, THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY & HEALTH CARE INSURERS REGARDING A CHOLESTEROL DRUG LATER REMOVED FROM THE MARKET)
* In a different case handled by Sidley for the same client, the Illinois Supreme Court recently held that a consumer fraud claim based on “deception by concealment” still requires a direct or indirect communication from the defendant to the plaintiff, and there is no implied representation of safety from marketing a prescription drug. In this case, the consumer who was prescribed a cholesterol-lowering drug that was later withdrawn from the market filed a putative class action against the drug manufacturer under the Illinois Consumer Fraud Act (CFA). In finding for the manufacturer, the Illinois Supreme Court held that: (1) to maintain action under CFA, the plaintiff must actually be deceived (directly or indirectly) by a statement or omission by the defendant ; (2) the mere sale of a prescription medication is not a representation that the drug is safe for its intended use, so as to serve as basis for action under CFA; and (3) the alleged general deception of consumers, the medical community, the health care insurance industry, and the public did not permit recovery on “indirect deception” theory.

(AGAINST CHILD PLAINTIFFS RE SALE OF OVER THE COUNTER COUGH AND COLD DRUGS FOR USE IN YOUNG CHILDREN)
* Sidley obtained dismissal of a purported nationwide consumer class action brought against a major health care company on the basis of federal preemption. The plaintiff challenged the sale of over-the-counter cough and cold drugs for use in young children. These drugs have been sold for decades under FDA regulations that specifically permit a manufacturer to sell these drugs as safe and effective under conditions specified in the regulations. Plaintiffs’ lawyers filed nearly identical class action lawsuits against several manufacturers of OTC cough and cold drugs. Sidley took the lead in filing a joint motion to dismiss by all of the defendants in all of the cases. The United States District Court for the Central District of California concluded that the plaintiffs’ consumer fraud and breach of warranty claims were all expressly preempted by FDA regulations governing these products.

(AGAINST CHILD PLAINTIFFS RE FORMALDEHYDE CONTAMINATION OF CHILDREN'S BATH PRODUCTS)
* Sidley was retained as national coordinating counsel to defend a large personal care product company in purported nationwide class actions, spurred by a consumer group’s 2009 report of alleged contaminants in children’s bath products. Actions alleging breach of warranty, consumer fraud and unjust enrichment claims are now pending in the District of New Jersey and the Northern District of California, following the JPML’s denial of a motion for MDL consolidation. Sidley is also representing the company in related Prop 65 proceedings alleging formaldehyde contamination of children’s bath products.

(AGAINST CONSUMERS ALLEGING FALSE AND MISLEADING ADVERTISING OF SYNTHETIC VITAMIN C PRODUCTS)
* Sidley recently represented a major nutritional supplement manufacturer in a lawsuit pending in the Southern District of Illinois. Plaintiff, who has brought a putative Illinois-wide consumer fraud class action, alleged that the company falsely and misleadingly advertised and promoted a synthetic vitamin C products to the effect that these products offered 24-hour immune protection and were better than natural vitamin C. The company entered into a very favorable settlement of the plaintiff’s individual claims and all claims – including the putative class claims – were voluntarily dismissed.

(AGAINST CUSTOMERS ALLEGING FRAUDULENT AND MISLEADING SALES OF INEFFECTIVE TERMITE TREATMENT METHOD)
* Sidley currently represents a consumer services company in a putative class action pending in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. Plaintiffs filed a putative class action seeking to represent all customers in California, alleging violations of the California Consumer Legal Remedies Act and the California Business and Professions Code (Sec. 17500), and asserting other theories under state common law. Plaintiffs are challenging all aspects of the sale of a particular termite treatment method to customers in California, alleging that the sales materials are false and misleading and challenging the effectiveness of the treatment.


Sidley achieved a major victory for the same client when, in June 2009, the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas awarded summary judgment in the company’s favor, dismissing the plaintiffs’ complaint in its entirety. Plaintiffs had filed a putative class action seeking to represent all customers in Arkansas, alleging violations of the Arkansas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, breach of contract, breach of warranty, and negligence, all arising out of termite treatment services. The court found that all of the named plaintiff’s claims were time-barred and rejected plaintiff’s argument that the Company had fraudulently concealed his cause of action.

Sidley achieved a major victory for the same client when a Florida appellate court vacated a lower court ruling certifying a class and subclass of 65,000 customers. After nearly seven years of contentious litigation and appeals, the Florida Court of Appeal (Second District) vacated a lower court opinion certifying a statewide class of customers. In 2002, the trial court certified a class and subclass of 65,000 customers, who alleged that the company engaged in deceptive and unfair trade practices, misleading advertising, racketeering, and breach of contract in connection with the provision of termite treatment services. On appeal in 2003, the Florida appellate court reversed, finding that the lower court’s certification order did not contain the required factual and legal findings. On remand, after additional briefing and multiple hearings, the lower court again certified the same class and subclass. In a 34-page decision adopting Sidley’s arguments, the appellate court on June 30, 2006, vacated in its entirety the lower court’s class certification order, effectively bringing to an end the plaintiffs’ seven-year quest to certify a class.

On July 17, 2006, in one of the first cases to consider the propriety of class certification under the American Arbitration Association’s rules, a three-member AAA panel denied a claimant’s motion for certification against the same consumer services company. After extensive briefing, expert discovery, and an evidentiary hearing, the panel found that individual issues as to liability, causation, and damages predominated over any common issues, making class certification improper.

(AGAINST CONSUMERS SUING FOR DEFECTIVE PRODUCT AND FAILURE TO HONOR WARRANTEES OF ROOFING SHINGLES)
* A leading building products manufacturer has retained Sidley to defend a purported nationwide consumer class action brought against the company. The lawsuit challenges the manufacture, design, sale, and marketing of 18 types of roofing shingles during the past 25 years, alleging that the shingles prematurely fail and that the company has refused to honor its warranty obligations. The plaintiff alleges violation of the Pennsylvania Unfair Trade Practices and Consumer Protection Law, breach of contract, breach of express warranty, breach of implied warranty of merchantability, negligence, strict products liability, unjust enrichment, and fraudulent and negligent misrepresentation. Notwithstanding the broad allegations of the complaint, Sidley has been successful in limiting discovery to the one type of roofing shingle purchased by the named plaintiffs, arguing that the named plaintiffs have no standing to seek discovery on behalf of purchasers of different type of shingles.

(AGAINST CONSUMERS SUING FOR FALSE LABELING OF POULTRY AS RAISED WITHOUT ANTIBIOTICS)
* Sidley was retained to handle several federal putative class actions (later consolidated into an MDL) arising out of the use of the claims “Raised Without Antibiotics” and “Raised Without Antibiotics that impact antibiotic resistance in humans” (“RWA claims”) in advertising and marketing of certain poultry products by one of the country’s largest poultry producers. Although the U.S. Department of Agriculture (“USDA”) had approved the RWA claims for purposes of product labeling, the USDA subsequently withdrew its approval and required the company to re-label all of its RWA products. Plaintiffs sought certification of state and nationwide classes, claiming that the company violated state consumer protection acts in using RWA claims in their advertisements and labeling. The cases were consolidated in an MDL before Judge Richard D. Bennett in the District of Maryland, and were subsequently resolved quite favorably.



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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 09:09 PM
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55. Excellent info, Diverman
Thanks! K&R.

-app
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 01:15 AM
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60. This post argues for Barlow's competency.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 01:19 AM by msanthrope
I mean, I get that you don't like him.

I get that you don't like his clients. (Putative clients--since you didn't bother to cite a single case he actually worked on....)

But you haven't cited a single instance of his incompetence.


Further, you seem to be making a very interesting argument for a law professor--that someone is objectionable because their clients are.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:02 AM
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67. He represented AstroZeneca Pharma & General Electric.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 08:05 AM by Divernan
http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2011/08/senators-lawy...

According to court records, Barlow worked out of Sidley’s Chicago office. He represented AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals in product-liability litigation and General Electric Co. in asbestos litigation.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:30 AM
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76. So you don't like his clientele. So what?

According to your source, he's not the only Senator's counsel to get a USA spot--

"There’s a long list of former Senate lawyers who have moved to the Justice Department. Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, was previously chief counsel to Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Last year, Michael Zubrensky, a lawyer for Sen. Richard Dubin (D-Ill.), left to work in DOJ’s Office of Legal Policy."


Not for anything, but the guy was a Law Review editor and a Truman Scholar. He's no dummy. You may not like his clients, but then again, your personal likes and dislikes aren't part of this.

It's like arguing that if a criminal defense attorney defends someone objectionable, that disqualifies them from future office. I find it baffling that a law professor would take such a narrow approach to the practice of law.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 02:34 AM
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62. Thank you for looking that up for us. n /t
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:37 PM
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53. Barlow also donated $4800 to Lee's campaign
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:22 AM
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75. Under Obama, US Attorney appointments are going cheap!
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:50 AM
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79. Are you suggesting the seat was sold by Obama for a campaign contribution to Lee?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:21 PM
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29. just switch parties, most don't believe you anymore
"reaching across the aisle"... sure you are.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:41 PM
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33. +1
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:41 PM
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32. OH FFS. K&R even though it's more bad news.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:42 PM
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34. This was a set up from the beginning.
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 03:43 PM by Divernan
This position in Utah has been empty for 18 months. Obama couldn't be seen to appoint a Chicago corporate attorney with no relevant experience, so this young guy bops over to Washington 10 months ago with a token appointment as head lawyer for a freshman senator (very light duty), to give him a minimal veneer of government experience.

The people of Utah deserved far better than this! And so do all the hard working lawyers in the US Attorney's office who now have to work for a political hack appointee.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 03:56 PM
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37. Here are the specific concerns listed at OP's Think Progress link:
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 04:08 PM by Divernan
Discussing the serious concerns re whether Barlow can be trusted to carry out the duties of the US Attorney, i.e., enforce laws intended to protect ordinary Americans, or will he adopt the positions taken by the Senator who proposed him for the job, Lee? (Given the limit of 4 paragraphs, I omitted the last one re FEMA. Lee has said that disaster relief is unconstitutinal.)


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/08/03/286554/wtf -... /


* Will Barlow Vigorously Protect Seniors’ Right To Social Security & Medicare? As a Senate candidate, Lee claimed that it is unconstitutional for the federal government to provide health care or “a decent retirement plan.” Barlow should disavow these radical beliefs before he can be confirmed.

* Will Barlow Enforce Child Labor Laws? Lee believes that child labor laws are unconstitutional because the Constitution “was designed to be a little bit harsh.” Before Barlow can be a U.S. Attorney, he must swear under oath that he will enforce federal child labor laws without reservation.

* Will Barlow Enforce Food Safety Laws? In a radio interview last January, Lee said that food safety is “not necessarily the role of the federal government.” As a U.S. Attorney, however, Barlow will be responsible for prosecuting criminal violations of laws ensuring that our food is safe to eat. Before Barlow can be a U.S. Attorney, he must swear under oath that he will enforce federal food safety laws without reservation.

* Does Barlow Believe That The Constitution Requires The Poor To Starve? In the same radio interview, Lee also said that federal anti-poverty programs are “not necessarily the role of the federal government” under the Constitution. Barlow should explain whether he shares his boss’ apparent belief that food stamps and similar programs are unconstitutional.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:40 PM
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39. Do you have any of Barlow's views?
I've had clients with political views that differ from mine. Where are Barlow's views?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:17 PM
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44. You're supporting him. You tell us his views.
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 05:45 PM by Divernan
Based on his career choices, and his lack of relevant experience, as I so kindly detailed for DUers in earlier posts, his nomination is an insult to the legal profession in general, and to the US Attorneys office in particular.

You chimed in without any apparent specific knowledge of Barlow and didn't even know who Mike Garcia was!

In the legal world, there is such a thing as a rebuttable presumption. Based on Barlow's history, the presumption is that he has virulently pro-corporate, anti-consumer views. As a Yale law grad, he could have found any number of jobs which did not entail screwing consumers by representing Big Corporate interests in class action suits. But he chose to work at screwing the little guys.

Given that, the burden of proof is on YOU to explain why he is a good candidate. I don't know. Maybe he had a Road to Damascus experience, and God struck him with a bolt of lightning & told him he'd hurt thousands of people with his legal work the last 10 years, and he'd damn well better change. But I sort of doubt that happened. If it had, Orrin Hatch and Lee would not be pushing his nomination.

On Edit: Even if he had miraculously converted to being pro-consumer and had views which were progressive, the man woefully lacks administrative experience, criminal law experience and trial experience. He is way out of his depth.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:24 PM
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45. How is "msanthrope" supporting the guy exactly?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:34 PM
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47. Referring to factual accounts of Barlow as "anti-Obama screamfest"
and posting:
"Prove that assertion. Barlow worked at the same firm as the Obamas.

I think they have a better idea of his qualifications than you do."

Have you bothered to read the other posts on this thread? You are expected to consider them as a whole.

Soooooooooo, can you grasp that msanthrope is dismissive of factual posts about Barlow's lack of experience and qualification for this very important job? Pardon me for my legal way of thinking (retired attorney/law professor that I am) but if you want to challenge someone, you should have some facts at hand to support your position.

With the wonders of google, we do not have to wait until confirmation hearings to see exactly what kind of an attorney Barlow is and has been his entire professional career.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:46 PM
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48. Interesting.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 01:10 AM
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59. Again, you haven't told us why Mr. Barlow is unqualified.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 01:17 AM by msanthrope
Sorry, but I'm going to take the judgment of the President of the United States over a self-professed professor on the Internets, unless and until said professor can prove that Mr. Barlow is incompetent.

You may not like Mr. Barlow's practice of law. You may not like his clients. But are you alleging, sir, that he is incompetent?

In fact, Professor, from what you post, Mr. Barlow is ruthlessly competent. You just disagree with what he's chosen to do....in fact, you seem to be making the argument that because his clients are objectionable to you, he is objectionable.





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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:11 AM
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70. Of course I have, repeatedly. You fail to respond to facts.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 08:19 AM
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72. You haven't cited a single case Barlow actually worked on. You've just noted that he's had clients
you don't like.

If you have any proof he's incompetent, then POST IT.

If you can explain the magical math that fills that seat with a Democrat (when the previous suggested Democrat failed) in Senate where the President does not have cloture, has two Senators who will blue line, AND is currently refusing to go into recess, explain it to us all.

Seriously. Tell us all how a Democrat fills that seat and the Senate confirms them.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 12:54 AM
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56. Can you name a single view of Mr. Barlow's?
A single one?

I mean, you've listed cases his firm worked on.

You've listed the viewpoints of one of his clients.

But you've failed to cite a single case that he worked on. Nor have you unearthed a single quote from the man.

Still waiting...
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 01:45 AM
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61. No, in our system, the rebuttable presumption is that the President picked a competent person.
Edited on Thu Aug-04-11 01:51 AM by msanthrope
As a law professor, you know that the advise and consent clause of the Constitution (Art 2.2.2) was constructed in a manner that vests in the Executive the sole power to nominate--thus creating the rebuttable presumption that the appointments of the President are of competent people. As Hamilton wrote:

"Those who have themselves reflected upon the subject, or who have attended to the observations made in other parts of these papers, in relation to the appointment of the President, will, I presume, agree to the position, that there would always be great probability of having the place supplied by a man of abilities, at least respectable. Premising this, I proceed to lay it down as a rule, that one man of discernment is better fitted to analyze and estimate the peculiar qualities adapted to particular offices, than a body of men of equal or perhaps even of superior discernment." (Federalist 76)

I do raise my eyebrows when Mr. Obama is not given the respect of office that is his due--whether that be from Repukes who refuse to consider his nominees, or from Democrats, who think that ideological purity is a laudable goal.


Now, you may not like Mr. Barlow's clients. You may not like the work his firm does. But that doesn't mean he doesn't get to be US Attorney.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:37 AM
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81. There's no rebuttable presumption of competence, nor does your quote say there is.
And, PS. the Constitution gave that body of men (people) mentioned in the Federalist a veto over the President's choice.

Beyond that, when you vote for a Democratic President, you have, or did have until Obama, a right to expect mostly Democrats in the Administration, not Republicans and Teabaggers.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 04:51 PM
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41. I'm getting neck whiplash from Obama...
I simply do not understand this guy...at all.

And it's harder and harder to defend him daily.

Voting in 2012 for me is going to be more about voting Dem vs. voting Obama.

Come on Mr. President...change my mind about that for me!
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:30 PM
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46. Two options imo
Either you subscribe to the theory he is nominating those he thinks will do the best job (with the risk of being virtually tarred and feathered here btw)
or
you subscribe to the theory he has sold us out and isnt a "real democrat".



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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:31 PM
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51. Could be both. [nt]
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 02:35 AM
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63. When is anything done in DC on a merit basis?
It's a swamp, remember.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 03:20 AM
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64. is he doin' this for shits n' giggles? I mean really!!! these choices are so bizarre.
He made a righty the Sec. of Transportation a few years back, and what do you know, he was working on a policy to let Mexican truck-drivers take semis all across America, hurting jobs here as Teamsters lose the transport jobs to Mexican drivers who do it for far far less, let alone the concerns over safety.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-11 09:41 AM
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82. There is only this one man in the U.S. qualified to fill this position? Baloney.
Probably thousands of Democrats could do as good a job or better than this Teabagger.

There is a lot more evidence that this President has sold us out than there is for the proposition that this guy is the best qualified person in the U.S. to fill this position and has no equals.
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 05:56 PM
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49. no surprises.
al capone's worthy successors in Chicago - come straight out of the Democratic political machine there.

me - i'm still waiting for the Elizabeth Warren appointment.
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