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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:29 PM
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Bradley Manning: I was bullied in the military for being gay
Source: The Guardian

New online conversations between a gay activist and Bradley Manning, the US soldier suspected of passing secret diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, allege Manning was being bullied in the military over his sexuality.

The 2009 weblogs, sent from Fort Drum, the upstate New York barracks where Manning was preparing to be sent to Iraq as an intelligence analyst, give new insight into his state of mind around the time he is alleged to have contacted WikiLeaks.

Using the online pseudonym Bradass87, Manning used AOL's instant messager for several exchanges with a 19-year-old man called Zachary Antolak, who lived near Chicago. Antolak adopted a female persona on the internet, ZJ Antolak.

In the weblogs, never before made public, Manning tells ZJ of bullying he endured as a gay man serving in the army under "don't ask, don't tell", the discriminatory policy towards gay soldiers. Though he tried to hide his sexuality, it was soon discovered by others in his platoon.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/04/wikileaks-b...
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:38 PM
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1. So the thing like the Outing of Valerie Plame
that wasn't a bad thing?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:47 PM
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3. What does Valerie Plame have to do with this OP?
Manning didn't out any CIA agents and the Pentagon can't name anyone who has been harmed by his leaks.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 11:18 PM
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7. ?
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 11:21 PM
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9. !
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:41 PM
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2. Proof that the military's strategy of ostracizing gays to keep them from spying does not work.
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BOHICA12 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:47 PM
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4. So Bradley is/was a spy? Wow that's new.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 09:23 AM
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14. Bradley was an Intelligence Analyst - not a collector. He worked
with intelligence collected/provided by others. His duties involved moving approved intelligence from a US only IT system to one that disseminated it to non-US allies.

Correct terminology, in the context of this case

- Intelligence Agent: A person who has provides his/her nation's secrets. Usually a traitor to his/her nation.

- Intelligence Officer: US military or civilian person who "runs" agents and receives information to be analyzed. (Human Intelligence). Also applies, but is not limited to those that intercept information electronically (SIGINT), via photo reconnaissance (IMINT), or via foreign broadcasts/papers Open Source Intelligence (OSINT)

- Special Agent - US Law Enforcement or Counterintelligence Officer.


Spies acquire information - traitors provide it. What Bradley did likely does not rise to the level of treason, probably because it was not done with the intent to harm the United States. Hence, he's charged with lessor offenses, even though he provided US intelligence to foreign powers via the media.

Spies acquire secrets, Traitors provide them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:47 PM
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5. Of course he was. Before and after his arrest.
Finally, this is getting some attention.
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BOHICA12 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 11:03 PM
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6. DADT Army Boot / AIT =/
an enlightened atmosphere. Nothing surprising.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 11:21 PM
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8. No shocker there
In many ways being in the military was like being in high school. Also met a number of bigots but on the flip side I've met some of the best friends I ever had.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 12:23 AM
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10. kr
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 12:40 AM
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11. He would have had an easy out under DADT back then: he could have been on his way, instead
of chilling in the brig
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 06:14 AM
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12. Recommend
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 09:09 AM
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13. Object lesson: Make people outsiders in your culture, and powerless, and they will
become the change agents from hell. Inclusion, is the only thing that will keep us all quiet.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 09:28 AM
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15. +1.
I am reminded of the movie Ran.



Fox-devil!

Your scheming destroyed
the house of Ichimonji!

Such is the vanity of woman!

Vanity, you say?

I wanted to avenge my family!

I wanted this castle to burn!

I have done all I set out to do.


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