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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:25 PM
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Major Quake Strikes in Pacific Off Alaska, Tsunami Warning Issued (7.4 Magnitude Near Atka)
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 11:07 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Reuters

Major quake strikes in Pacific off Alaska, tsunami warning issued
WASHINGTON | Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:45pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A major earthquake of 7.4 magnitude hit in the Pacific Ocean on Thursday 107 miles east of Atka, Alaska, at a depth of about 25 miles, and a tsunami warning was in effect for coastal Alaska, warning agencies said.

A second quake of the same magnitude hit in the same vicinity and at the same depth a half-minute later, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

"A Tsunami warning is now in effect which includes the coastal areas of Alaska from Unimak Pass, Alaska (80 miles northeast of Dutch Harbor) to Amchitka Pass, Alaska (125 miles west of Adak)," the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center said.

The center monitors tsunami risk only for the west coast of North America from the Mexican border to Alaska.

Read more: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE75N0IN20110624?irpc=932



To: U.S. West Coast, Alaska, and British Columbia coastal regions
From: NOAA/NWS/West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center
Subject: Tsunami Warning #1 issued 06/23/2011 at 7:15PM AKDT

A Tsunami Warning is now in effect which includes the coastal areas of Alaska from Unimak Pass, Alaska (80 miles NE of Dutch Harbor) to Amchitka Pass, Alaska (125 miles W of Adak).

This message is for Information Only for coastal areas of California, Oregon, Washington, British Columbia and Alaska from the California-Mexico border to Unimak Pass, Alaska (80 miles NE of Dutch Harbor).

This message is for Information Only for coastal areas of Alaska from Amchitka Pass, Alaska (125 miles W of Adak) to Attu, Alaska.

A Tsunami Warning means that all coastal residents in the warning area who are near the beach or in low-lying regions should move immediately inland to higher ground and away from all harbors and inlets including those sheltered directly from the sea. Those feeling the earth shake, seeing unusual wave action, or the water level rising or receding may have only a few minutes before the tsunami arrival and should move immediately. Homes and small buildings are not designed to withstand tsunami impacts. Do not stay in these structures.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:29 PM
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1. tsunamis alert?
thats not good
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:32 PM
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5. Tsunami alert in effect!
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 10:32 PM by DeSwiss
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:33 PM
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26. All clear has been issued:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:26 AM
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35. ....


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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:32 PM
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6. Reuters: FLASH: Tsunami warning in effect for Alaska coastal areas after 7.4 magnitude quake - West
Reuters: FLASH: Tsunami warning in effect for Alaska coastal areas after 7.4 magnitude quake - West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:30 PM
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2. Two quakes back-to-back:
MAP 7.3 2011/06/24 03:10:00 52.100 -171.700 40.0 FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA
MAP 7.4 2011/06/24 03:09:40 52.042 -171.842 46.8 FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php">link

K&R
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:31 PM
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3. Atka is way out on the Aleutian string
Ouch
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:31 PM
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4. Wow, that's probably closer to Japan than CONUS.



Way out there
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:54 PM
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13. no it's not
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 10:58 PM by Confusious
you're showing a flat map so distances are distorted.

it's probably right in the middle somewhere.

after checking, it's 2400 miles to Tokyo and 2400 miles to Seattle.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:59 PM
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18. Where's the love for Mercator???
:D
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:16 AM
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42. you mean the earth is round?
better tell google earth... er wait a minute.....
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Sedona Donating Member (715 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:33 PM
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7. usgs link
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:36 PM
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8. 7.3 & 7.4 near Fox Islands......
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:42 PM
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9. We thought we felt something here as well.
But no report yet.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:45 PM
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10. Pacific time line map:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:49 PM
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12. So is Hawaii under alert or not?
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:54 PM
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14. Not yet, But this info may be out dated:
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:56 PM
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16. Thanks!
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 11:00 PM by dkf
Hawaii news now says no tsunami generated.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/124469849.html
Large quake hits off Alaska, no Pacific-wide tsunami expected
By Star-Advertiser staff

POSTED: 05:53 p.m. HST, Jun 23, 2011
A 7.4 magnitude earthquake has struck the Aleutian Islands of Alaska today, but a Pacific-wide tsunami is not expected, officials said.

The quake struck at 6:09 p.m. in Alaska (5:09 p.m. Hawaii time) and the Associated Press reports that a regional tsunami alert is in effect for coastal areas of the Aleutians. But the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Ewa Beach issued a statement saying a Pacific-wide tsunami is not expected.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:10 PM
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55. Nope.
They have their own Pacific Tsunami Warning Center separate from the one that serves the mainland and Alaska. And they gave the all clear:

http://www.prh.noaa.gov/hnl/tsunami_msgs/HEBTIBPAC.201106240527

NO DESTRUCTIVE WIDESPREAD TSUNAMI THREAT EXISTS BASED ON
HISTORICAL EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI DATA.

HOWEVER - EARTHQUAKES OF THIS SIZE SOMETIMES GENERATE LOCAL
TSUNAMIS THAT CAN BE DESTRUCTIVE ALONG COASTS LOCATED WITHIN
A HUNDRED KILOMETERS OF THE EARTHQUAKE EPICENTER. AUTHORITIES
IN THE REGION OF THE EPICENTER SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS
POSSIBILITY AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:54 PM
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15. I don't understand the "tide gage"
What are we talking about on the west coast?
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:57 PM
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17. The west coast has two tides per day on average.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 10:58 PM by Devil_Fish
If there is a tsunami, it will hit San Francisco roughly an hour after low tide at about 2:30am.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:03 PM
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20. yeah, but I wondered how big
I assumed that's what "gage" referred to.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:42 PM
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27. The "gage" is like a monitoring station. NT
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:02 AM
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38. great map, thanks!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:48 PM
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11. Link to NOAA document on this event (PDF, 7 pages)
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:01 PM
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19. This doc is scary stuff:
(not related to Alaska) http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/doczone/2009/shockwave/

Earthquakes, like the one that caused the Indian Ocean disaster of December 26, 2004, tend to repeat themselves. The waves they generate can circle the globe with devastating consequences. Recently, scientists discovered that the Cascadia Subduction Zone off the west coast of North America has ruptured at least 37 times in the past 10,000 years and it will rupture again...but when?

The crack in the ocean floor from Cape Mendocino, California to central Vancouver Island is nearly identical to the subduction zone that ruptured off Sumatra, which led to the tsunami that killed approximately 230,000 people. The Pacific Northwest can expect a nearly identical earthquake. Five major cities (Vancouver, Victoria, Seattle, Portland and Sacramento) plus hundreds of small towns along a thousand kilometres of coastline will be heavily damaged. The first tsunami waves will hit the beach twenty minutes later.



Hopefully the tsunami from this Alaska earthquake doesn't manifest.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:09 PM
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:12 PM
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22. well, the tsunami from the Japan quake killed people in Southern Oregon
So it's not a bad idea to check it out.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:16 PM
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23. They were idiots
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 11:17 PM by Confusious
Went out to see the tsunami and got caught by the wave. It was also a 9.2 quake, which is magnitudes larger then a 7. Even then it did little damage.

here's a nice list of earthquakes in Alaska.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/special/Alaska_eqs.php
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 11:32 AM
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51. Dustin Weber thought the tsunami had passed, went to see the aftermath, got caught in the waves
If you are going to call him and his friends idiots, at least make sure you know what you are talking about about them.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/04/northwest_news_bend_parents_talk_about_son_who_died_when_tsunami_hit_coast_wandering_moose_tranquili.html

"Thinking the initial tsunami surge had passed and that subsequent waves would be small, Dustin Weber hiked with two new friends from off the reservation down a steep and narrow path that winds through thick brush to a small rocky beach on the north side of the Klamath River. His two new friends tried to save him, but couldn't."
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:01 PM
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52. I was talking about oregon
not California. about a couple of guys who went down to the beach to see the tsunami and got washed out.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:10 PM
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54. Dustin is the only one I knew about, he ended up in OR. edited, found them
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 03:12 PM by uppityperson
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 09:16 PM
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68. "It was also a 9.2 quake, which is magnitudes larger then a 7. Even then it did little damage."
I'm sure the people of Japan will be glad to here that it did little damage. Especially the dead people and their families.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 09:45 PM
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69. Everyone else knew I was talking about the United States
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 09:54 PM by Confusious
Why didn't you? It was pretty clear.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 11:21 PM
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71. So, Where did this quake hit? oh ya, Alaska. That's the point isn't it.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 11:29 PM by Devil_Fish
A 9.2 hit next to japan and even did a bit of damage in the U.S. some 5,500 miles away. A 7.2 hits in the U.S. and even though it is a smaller quake it still has the potential to do some damage to low lying areas, or perhaps some one who lives on a sail boat. You are basically telling every one in this thread that they are keeping track of potentially life threatening events for no reason and that they should just go back to sleep. That's kind of a dick head attitude if you ask me. You said that the Japan tsunami did very little damage. I was simply pointing out some people you were forgetting.

On edit: this thread is fairly dead except for our bickering. I suggest we both drop it and be glad that no one was hurt and this was a relative non-event.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-11 05:15 AM
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-11 03:06 PM
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73. I stated that unless you were close to it
Edited on Sun Jun-26-11 03:07 PM by Confusious
There was nothing to worry about. Japan was close to the 9.2, was it not? you seemed to miss that fact.

If you were in the United States (continental. That means the 48 contiguous states.) there was nothing to worry about, since it was such a small quake (the magnitude 7 quake)

You seem unable to understand that.

I've slept through 7.9 quakes. Have you? Alaska has magnitude 3 earthquakes on a daily basis.

potentially life threatening? I spent 20 years going through quakes that it seems some people would shit their pants over.

After so many "OMG there was magnitude 3 earthquake in California" or the "OMG there was a 5.2 in Anchorage" threads you just get tired of it. That place has had magnitude 7 quakes for as long as I can remember, and living in Anchorage, we were closer to it then anyone, and we never worried about it. Why should anyone else?

If you live long enough, you find that sometimes, being a dick is is the only way to bounce people out of their stupidity and is compassionate in the long run.

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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-11 07:47 PM
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74. I live on a boat on the eastern edge of the Pacific Ocean, so I am close to it.
You may have noticed that this 7.2 caused a Tsunami Warning in the immediate area, and an informational alert for the entire west coast of which I am a part of.


If you were in the United States (continental. That means the 48 contiguous states.) there was nothing to worry about, since it was such a small quake (the magnitude 7 quake)

You seem unable to understand that.


I live on a boat on the eastern edge of the Pacific Ocean. There are many people who share my way of life, and also many who live in low lying areas on the west coast.

potentially life threatening? I spent 20 years going through quakes that it seems some people would shit their pants over.


Yes potentially life threatening. On a boat in the ocean right next to a land mass during even a small tsunami is potentially life threatening. Did you see the video from Santa Cruz?? take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgGzxtybbE&feature=fvst now imagine if it was 2:30AM and some one were sleeping in one of those boats. According to the time chart If this quake had resulted in a tsunami it would have hit me at 2:30am wile I would have been sleeping in my boat if I had taken your advise and simply gone back to sleep. Yes, this one was only 7.2, but it was also less then half the distance from me, on my boat then the Japan tsunami. I'm glad that this one did not cause a tsunami, but just because it didn't this time does not mean it will not the next time.

I'm not shitting my pants, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand either. I'm glad that you live in a place were you would not be affected by a tsunami. not all of us have that luxury.

After so many "OMG there was magnitude 3 earthquake in California" or the "OMG there was a 5.2 in Anchorage" threads you just get tired of it. That place has had magnitude 7 quakes for as long as I can remember, and living in Anchorage, we were closer to it then anyone, and we never worried about it. Why should anyone else?

If you live long enough, you find that sometimes, being a dick is is the only way to bounce people out of their stupidity and is compassionate in the long run.


In this case, it was a 7.2 in the Pacific Ocean less then half the distance from me then the Japan quake was. If your so annoyed by threads where people are being concerned about the effects of natural disasters, then there is a simple solution: don't click on them. Oh, and you really think that telling people to ignore situations that may threaten their life and home is "compassionate"? are you sure your on the right web site? at least we can agree on one thing.

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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-11 12:12 AM
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75. Sorry if you missed the entire point of my posts

A 7.2 really isn't large enough to spawn a tsunami of any meaningful size. You video was from march 11, which was magnitude 9 quake.

Yes, a few people who live on a boat need to know about it, but most of us don't live on boats, do we. Most of us don't need to worry about a 7.2 quake, unless we live in the third world. I doubt most of the people on this board live in the third world.

The other thing is the sensationalist stuff that people post, that does nothing to drive any really meaningful knowledge, just fear.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:22 PM
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24. 1. 2,400 miles from whom? Plenty of DUers live in Alaska.
2. Who's worried? People are staying informed and learning. One of the values of this forum. The post you are responding to is commenting on some interesting info they found about quakes that might occur in any number of places.

3. What frenzy?
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:06 AM
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29. My father lives in Alaska
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 12:17 AM by Confusious
there were always big earthquakes in the aleutians, never bothered us.

learning is one thing. Posting sensationalist crap is another. posting " well I wonder if the rift near Seattle is going to go because of this"

MSM does the same exact thing and we condem them for it.

like this story:

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-naw-alaska-earthquake-0716,0,5103819.story

5.2 "rocks" alaskas largest city.

please, I feel more rumbling on a dance floor then from a 5.2
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:58 AM
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31. I lived in Alaska for three years.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 01:02 AM by Hissyspit
7.4 is not 5.2. and no, it's not 9.2, either.

Someone posted "Hopefully the tsunami from this Alaska earthquake doesn't manifest." Where is the comment about the Seattle rift? I'm not seeing it. I think you read more into the post than was there.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:41 AM
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36. This line
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 01:43 AM by Confusious
Recently, scientists discovered that the Cascadia Subduction Zone off the west coast of North America has ruptured at least 37 times in the past 10,000 years and it will rupture again...but when?

I assume it's the one I heard was off the coast near Seattle.

After googling, it is the one.

I lived in Alaska for 20.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 11:09 AM
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49. I live in an area that will probably be severely impacted when that area quakes and am concerned
as are others in the area. I am sorry that you mock us for this concern. There is a lot of work going on trying to prepare for something that may happen and will be devastating when it does.

Here is an article on Dustin Weber, the young man who died in CA in the Japan tsunami.
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2011/04/northwest_news_bend_parents_talk_about_son_who_died_when_tsunami_hit_coast_wandering_moose_tranquili.html
"Thinking the initial tsunami surge had passed and that subsequent waves would be small, Dustin Weber hiked with two new friends from off the reservation down a steep and narrow path that winds through thick brush to a small rocky beach on the north side of the Klamath River. His two new friends tried to save him, but couldn't."
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:09 PM
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53. I am mocking people who freak out at every little thing
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 03:10 PM by Confusious
OMG a 5.2 earthquake happened in antartica!!!!! oh nooooss!!! will it kill us Alll??...

There's legit things to be concerned about. a 7.2 quake 2400 miles from nowhere is not one.

wake me when there's an 8.2. I slept through a 7.9.

If you don't think the building codes where you live will allow that, time to move or get the city to change the codes to allow you too.

I am entiled to say nowhere because I lived in Alaska for 20 years.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:18 PM
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56. FWIW, a 7.1 Aleutian quake in 1946 killed 159 people in Hawaii. Link here...
Yes, being concerned about a quake happens, sometimes irrationally but yes, even a quake from "nowhere" can cause deaths and damage. And yes, I lived in AK also, but won't call it "nowhere".

http://www.pdc.org/iweb/tsunami_history.jsp
"1946
The tsunami of 1946 was generated by a magnitude 7.1 earthquake in the Aleutian Islands. This tsunami struck the Big Island of Hawaii on April 1st. The tsunami flooded the downtown area of Hilo killing 159 people and causing more than $26 million in damages."
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:38 PM
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58. That was 60 years ago.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 03:45 PM by Confusious
If I lived in Alaska in 46, the 7.9 probably would have collapsed the building.

I probably would have been worrying about smallpox and polio also.

and after looking it up, even scientists say the quake was to small to spawn the tsunami.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:52 PM
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60. If the quake was "too small to spawn the tsunami", then what caused the tsunami
Are you talking about the '46 one? I don't care if it was yrs ago, still those apt to be impacted can be concerned without mocking. I do understand the "OMG!"ness mocking of those who run around OMGing, but don't see it as being pertinent here.

You say a 7.whatever is too small to make a tsunami. 1946 tsunami was caused then, by...what?
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 05:07 PM
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61. Scientists don't know
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 05:08 PM by Confusious
They thought they had a theory that a landslide was caused by the earthquake, but that proved wrong.

Their next theory is that the earthquake was so large that the machines of the time couldn't handle it and gave the wrong magnitude.

The one thing they DO know, is that a 7.1 is too small to spawn a tsunami of that size.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:23 AM
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34. We didn't even feel that one that "rocked" us last week
because we were in the car. It's got to be over 6.0 before I even get that little heart flutter.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:25 PM
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25. Dear Confusious, I live on a Sail Boat in Half Moon Bay just south of San Francisco.
Edited on Thu Jun-23-11 11:27 PM by Devil_Fish
When the Japan Tsunami hit my harbor, I was 5 miles out to sea. Thankfully there was very little damage in my harbor, but I still feel I made the right decision to take her out. there are many in Santa Cruz and Crescent City that are wishing they had done the same.

So you see Confusious there is something that I not only can do about it, but if I wish to save my home, I must do about it. That is why I get so worked up.

Oh, and about that 2400 miles......

The Tsunami that came from Japan when I was 5 miles out to sea was still a 15 foot wave that my boat nicely took in stride. If it had broke over the beam (side on) it may have capsized (flipped) me. fortunately 5 miles out there is no reef to cause it to break, and I was able to keep her nose pointed into the swells.

The ocean is a very interesting place. When you sail, you don't go places, you ask the wind and current to kindly take you where you wish to be, and with skill and just a little luck you get there.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:03 AM
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28. No, it seems that people like to post
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 12:09 AM by Confusious
sensationalist material. what if the big one goes off because of this? What if aliens invade in our moment of weakness?

That wave was because of a 9.2 which was magnitudes larger then a 7.2. I would worry about a 9.2.

a 7.2 not so much. I woke up during a 7.9 and went back to sleep.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:14 AM
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32. I love that post.
I am a very non-boat person. But you made me see the magic you find in it.
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:09 AM
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40. Nice, I've wanted to live on a sail boat. What kind do you have?
Almost got a Frisco Flyer a while back...didn't though...still dream about it. Yes, you are smart to have gone out to sea. Probably saved your boat that way.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:14 PM
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63. In that particular instance, no, But had my harbor been Santa Cruz takeing her out would have saved
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 06:19 PM by Devil_Fish
her. The problem is that you don't know how bad it is going to be untill it hits. and when it hits it is too late. I took out to sea single handed an hour before the tsunami was schedualed to hit. I was low on fuel so as soon as I got out of the break water, I raised the sails and shut off the motor. There is somthing about sailing that I simply can't describe and do it justice.

The energy in the sea is amazing. A tsunami is not dangerous untill the surge reaches the land. Picture it like a thousand people running down the street. in the middle or the street there is not much danger. the danger occures at that brick wall at the end. Here is a grafic I have found handy in ilistrating the effect:

Wave Dynamics
Waves are really just large circles of energy…almost perfect circles when in deep water…and you only see the tops. However, as waves come into shore and the bottom of the “circle of energy” touches the rising ocean floor the circle drags and the lower part of the circle slows down. But the energy behind tries to stay at the same speed and it has nowhere to go but up. And some point, the water can’t be held there and it falls over itself and a breaker is born.

This was taken from this web site: http://www.coastsidefishingclub.com/Navigating-Pillar-Point-Harbor

And you asked what kind of sail boat I live on. She was built in 71. She is a 44' long Cutter-rigged Ketch. Here is a picture:
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:13 AM
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48. hey
you are living my future retirement. I am so jealous. Would love to know more about your boat and life if you have the time and inclination.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:24 PM
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64. See post #63.
If you truly have questions and a desire to understand what it takes, feel free to PM me.
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:06 AM
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39. to people who live in tsunami danger places it is worrying
we like to know because with a tsunami one can get out of the way IF they have ample warning....
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:16 AM
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43. A 7.2 is a weak quake
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 02:17 AM by Confusious
MAYBE flood a beach house with a 1/4 inch of water if it hits at a really high tide, and the house is REALLY close to the water. If Alaska has a beach anywhere. Usually just a lot of mud.

If you're not near it, there ain't nothing to worry about. and there really isn't anything near the Aleutians.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:19 PM
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57. yet a 7.1 in the Aleutians killed over 159 people in Hawaii in '46.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:44 PM
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59. After looking it up
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 03:44 PM by Confusious
scientists say the quake was to small to spawn the tsunami.
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 12:16 AM
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30. Run, Sarah, run!
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:18 AM
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44. so many real choices
Earthquake or massive wild fire. Oh where to go. (so is she in AZ or AS er whats the state letters? oh well.. heck I still call Illinois by the three letters. ILL...
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:18 AM
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33. Thanks for the info
I hadn't heard about it here. We live up from sea level, so I'm not too concerned.

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:46 AM
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37. Does this mean Sarah can see water from her porch?
Russian water, it goes without saying..........
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:13 AM
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41. Hey, DFW
How's it going? I met your friend from Heritage a month and a half after our own big earthquake here in Japan. :hi:
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:34 AM
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45. Someone from Heritage was in Japan?
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 02:34 AM by DFW
There are something like 400 people that work there, but not too many that travel to Asia.
You'll have to tell me who it was. Might he have been of Brazilian nationality?

I just got out of the hospital after getting my inner ear cut up and re-arranged here in Germany.
I go in for a post-op check-up this afternoon. If I can hear anything in my left ear, I know it
went well. Oh, and it's freezing cold here. Worse, my elder daughter saved up her pennies because
her old roomie got married in the Cayman Islands last weekend (cheapest place in the British Caribbean
they could find). She just sent us pics of her playing with free-swimming dolphins in the turquoise
water. I'm thinking of disowning her.

Other that that everything's just fine. If my ear heals as expected, I leave for the States in 3 weeks
for a vacation. I had to look up the word on google, as I had forgotten what it meant.

My wife's birthday is tomorrow, and she wants me to grill some teriyaki for the people coming over. In
downtown Düsseldorf, we have a lot of Japanese (our own Mitsukoshi!!) and she wants me to get some of that
pink sweet ginger the Japanese eat with their teriyaki (still got enough wasabi). I will see if I can
borrow a Geiger counter to make sure it's OK to eat the stuff.

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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 02:39 AM
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46. There were three of them at the Heritage booth
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 02:40 AM by Art_from_Ark
at the international coin show held this past Golden Week in Tokyo-- a tall guy, and a couple of ladies. One of the ladies was a petite blonde, the other was a brunette.

By the way, good luck with your ear. :hi:
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 03:34 AM
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47. I go in for the post-op in a couple of hours, thanks.
I don't know who the tall guy or the brunette was, but I'll bet the petite blonde was
Debbie Rexing, who is chief of marketing. I know her. She is very smart and very outgoing.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 11:24 AM
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50. you can make pickled ginger very easily
Ingredients:
•2 lb fresh young ginger (shin shoga)
•2 tsps salt
•3 cups rice vinegar
•2 cups sugar
Preparation:
Wash young ginger root and rub off skin. Slice the ginger thinly and salt them. Leave salted ginger slices in a bowl for about one hour. Dry the ginger slices with paper towels and put them in a sterilized, heat-resistant container/jar. Mix rice vinegar and sugar in a pan and bring to a boil. Pour the hot mixture of vinegar and sugar over the ginger slices. Cool them. Pickled ginger changes its color to light pink. (*If you are using old ginger, it might not turn pink naturally.) Cover the jar and store it in the refrigerator.

The easiest way to rub the skin off ginger is with the side or back of a teaspoon.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 05:14 PM
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62. Some small tremblers hits Kershaw county SC.
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:55 PM
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66. Weird
I'm only 30 miles away but didn't feel it. We're on a major fault line in SC. Even so, tremors are rare here. Hope its not a pattern or trend.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:13 PM
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67. Looks like you have small 2 to 3 on the Richter scale several
times a year.
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ImNotTed Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:11 PM
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65. The most important question:
Did Sarah Palin see the quake from her porch?
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:02 PM
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70. God clearly does not approve of New Yorks Gay Marriage Bill!!!
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