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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:29 PM
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Dem opposition to disclosure plan grows
Source: The Hill

Democratic opposition is growing to a draft proposal under consideration by President Obama to force prospective government contractors to reveal political contributions.

Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Chairman Joe Lieberman (Conn.), an independent who caucuses with Democrats, and Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) sent a letter Thursday voicing their opposition.

“We are concerned that requiring businesses to disclose their political activity when making an offer risks injecting politics into the contracting process,” the lawmakers wrote. “Federal contracting law already precludes the consideration of political activity in evaluating contract offers.”

McCaskill is the chairwoman of Homeland Security’s subcommittee on government contracting.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/160867-democratic-opposition-grows-against-order-requiring-federal-contractors-to-reveal-political-activity
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:32 PM
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1. Lieberman, McCaskill
If those two DINO's didnt object it would be news.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:32 PM
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19. The Ladies doth protest too much, Methinks n/t
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:32 PM
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2. What an *entirely* fucking worthless political party
n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:38 PM
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4. +1 Time to clean up the tent and throw the elephants
out on their asses.
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:37 PM
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3. The Senate Whores don't want to reveal their paychecks!
We need to push back hard on these whores.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:47 PM
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12. I find that reference insulting to whores. Whores are up front
about the services they offer.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:38 PM
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5. damn
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:42 PM
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6. DLCers, Blue Dogs, whatever they call themselves this week, agree with the Far Right, as usual. n/t
n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:09 AM
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25. they agree with whoever their masters tell them too.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:43 PM
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7. If they don't support the right people they don't deserve a contract
It is that simple.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:45 PM
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8. The Obama Administration can get around this Republican criticism by setting
the date for the proposed law to take effect in 2016, which would be the latest an Obama Administration could be in power.



Some Republican critics have charged that President Obama of trying to snoop on the political activities of companies in order to punish those that oppose his administration.



As for the no bid contracts awarded to Halliburton when Cheney/Bush were in power, I find it hard to believe that politics doesn't already come into play with the contracting process.

Thanks for the thread, Freddie Stubbs.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:45 PM
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9. The ones that complain the most, have the most to hide.
Bought and paid for by their corporate sponsors.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:46 PM
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10. Now we KNOW it really needs to be done.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:46 PM
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11. THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW
That is the part that is forgotten in all this bull.
The people have the right to know who is buying whom.

They are putting their money into the political process.
Politics are public
So that makes any monetary contribution public.........
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:49 PM
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13. So, 2 Democrats are complaining..bfd. How many Republicans are complaining?
I hate these stories and the way they get framed to the public.
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young but wise Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:53 PM
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14. +1
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:58 PM
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22. + another 1
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:55 PM
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15. If the 2 DEMS were acting like good LIBERALS (GASP!) instead of Far Right trash....
Edited on Thu May-12-11 01:07 PM by Dr Fate
...AKA "centrists"- then there would be nothing for you to hate and little for the media to frame.

Not the media's fault per se- but the fault of "centrists" who thought it would be cute to oppose the majority of voters and instead side with the far right.

The media is not forcing any DEMS or 3rd party "centrists" to ape right wing jerks- they are doing that just fine all on their own.

Important to note that Joe is not a DEM- although he won his seat on a 3rd party, pro-Bush, pro-War ticket with support from the DLC.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 01:27 PM
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16. You miss my point.
The lede says growing Democrat resistance...I see one Independent and 1 Democrat...this is "growing"? How about telling us how many Republicans, the Party who benefits hugely from corporate funding; what % of their caucus is complaining? I can then decide (1)if its the Democrats who are the problem or if the author of this POS is using the Democratic brand to mask the Party who really has a problem with this legislation.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 01:37 PM
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17. No, I got your point. I used it to make a new one.
Yup- the media is biased, and these 2 jerks HANDED THEM the opening to be biased.

If they were being good Liberals instead of conservat...err, I mean "centrists", the media would essentially have to make something up to make "growing" Democratic postions on this issue seem incorrect or unpopular.

Also, if all the other top name DEMS with media access who support The President on this(Including Obama himself) fails to call out these 2 DEMS BY NAME- or otherwise fails to "twist their arms" into doing the right thing, then it is arguable that Democrats in general are part of the problem- aside from any facts this author reported.

Sorry- but the "good cop/bad cop" game does not work for me anymore.

If Obama and a majority of DEMS are opposed to Lieberman and his buddy, then let them CALL THEM OUT- BY NAME. If they cant do this and the bill fails b/c "We dont have the votes"- then all I see is more good cop/bad cop tricks.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 01:40 PM
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18. Obama, Reid, Pelosi call out McCaskill & Lieberman BY NAME for their opposition (Link included)
Edited on Thu May-12-11 01:44 PM by Dr Fate
Fooled ya!

But wouldnt it be a good idea if they did? Or, we could always just list excuses in advance for why they should not/will not/ cannot/ will never. I'm easy.

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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 07:33 PM
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20. Yeah, the Blue Dogs WOULD have a problem with this, huh? n/t
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:57 PM
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21. I'm sure the OP fully agrees with them on this. nt
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 12:17 AM
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23. Democrats ! Stop this madness! Stay together !
We need to fight back against the right wing supreme court's Citizens' United decision.

No more secret spending on campaigns. We have enough money in politics as it is.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 12:39 AM
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24. well Lieberman is against it.......that settles it for me, I'm for it, the critters
don't want the People knowing who they really work for is all
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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:22 PM
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26. So what's wrong with disclosing where these companies
who are receiving federal funds are spending those federal funds?

Anyone who opposes this probably is worried about getting hit with corruption charges.
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