Intelligence cache from bin Laden compound was largest ever from single terrorism suspect

[Turborama]

Source: Reuters

Intelligence cache from bin Laden compound was largest ever from single terrorism suspect - senior US intelligence official

Read more: http://twitter.com/#!/REUTERSFLASH/statuses/66910181891649537

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NYT have a regularly updated live blog following this here: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/c-i-a-briefing-on-bin-laden-documents/?smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto

[Botany]

1. WTF is anybody talking about this?

I don't need to know this stuff .... 5 years down the line I can read the book or see the movie ....
not unless this a false flag operation and they want al Qaeda/Taliban/Pakistani Intel & Military to
think we have more information than we really do ..... but if this true than STFU

[hack89]

6. They want to spook people

and get them moving - when terrorists change their locations and their patterns of behavior they are easier to detect.

I suspect that this is a deliberate tactic to detect people that they have no information on but will start running anyway.

[Botany]

10. That very well might be the case

but still talking about hard drives and how we followed the courier doesn't seem smart to me.

[hack89]

11. Fear and uncertainty are powerful weapons

care to guess how fearful and uncertain anyone who had contact with that courier is right now?

[No Elephants]

24. No, wouldn't care to guess. These people fly planes into buildings and dress in explosives.

You may be imputing to them a mindset that is not theirs.

[JackRiddler]

21. Because bullshit only comes to life when you talk about it?

[treestar]

2. I hope this terminates Al Qaeda as an organization able to

create terrorist attacks.

[RC]

3. Not as long as we have the Military Industrial Complex it won't

[JackRiddler]

14. As "Al Qaeda" is much more an idea than a central organization, not necessarily.

[greyl]

18. Like "Anonymous"? nt

[JackRiddler]

20. Exactly the problem I saw in the "Anonymous" model soon as I heard about it.

Anyone can just walk in, do something, and claim to be "Anonymous." Or "Al Qaeda."

[boppers]

22. #NOTABUG

That's actually a *feature* of the decentralized model.

[JackRiddler]

23. Yes but if it's decentralized and secret...

bad actors can have a field day, no?

And so far I'm down with the stuff attributed to Anonymous. But it's close to inevitable they will end up blamed for some bad shit they didn't do.

[boppers]

27. Oh, that's been happening for years.

As a result, a great many shibboleths and informal codes have evolved, for example, football is srs bsns.... (Anonymous was blamed for a bomb threat on a football stadium).

[JackRiddler]

28. That may work for Anonymous (some of the time), but a concept like Al Qaeda has no such safeguards.

Anyone with the resources for it can set up an Al Qaeda front operation and potentially have it accepted uncritically as such. It's even sanctioned in USG doctrines like P2OG.

[No Elephants]

25. Reports are that stuff on computer shows OBL was still directing operations of AQ.

Dunno if that is a "used his wife as a human shield" and "perished in a fire fight" type report or an accurate report. Just saying it was a report.

ETA: Even if it was an accurate report, I have no doubt someone else can fulfill that function.

[cosmicone]

26. The Pakistani ISI can come up with a new

terrorist organization in a heartbeat. They probably have off-the-shelf shell organizations ready to go considering how fast the old organizations (once declared as a terrorist organization) get streamed into a new one with a new leader and new name, new bank accounts - everything.

I think the intelligence recovered will disclose that the funds for Al Q'aeda were coming from ISI bank accounts and once those bank accounts are closed and the foreign bankers read the riot act, it will be difficult to get going again. (Although not impossible)

If Obama shows balls like he did in killing OBL, he would demand the extradition of the Pakistani military and ISI officials involved in terrorism, force a restructuring of the Pakistani military and give the civilian government empowerment like it never had since Pakistan's independence.

[cosmicone]

4. It will be fun when love letters

between Pakistani establishment and Osama come out. Particularly with Musharraf, Shuja Pasha and Hamid Gul.

Pakistan will then try to deny them as fake hahaha

[Zorra]

5. Only thing they got from Bush's machine was pac-man.

It was his blueprint for military strategy.

[Veronica.Franco]

7. The arrogance of Pakistan ...

Hiding in plain site with a large intelligence cache laying around the house .... The local military must have been providing such excellent security that OBL had zero worries ...

[formercia]

8. Osama must have felt pretty safe in his Villa

In pics, he always made appearances with a lot of heavily armed bodyguards.

I wonder if he was a guest lecturer at the military academy next door.

Not to worry. The MIC will come up with another bogey man soon enough.

[JackRiddler]

15. Hmm, the ISI must have felt pretty safe about its sponsor, the US military...

what does that imply? You really think it's logical an ISI unit knew where OBL was but the US didn't?

[formercia]

17. No, just that OBL felt safe there.

That's why they call a place like that a 'Safe House.' OBL was a 'guest' of the Taliban in Afghanistan. The Taliban is a creation of the ISI. That leads me to believe that OBL was a 'guest' of the ISI.
I've worked with the ISI in that area. They have thousands of their agents collecting information and keeping their ear to the ground. They may not have our technical resources, but they are very good at HUMINT.

I'm sure the ISI knew. The ISI just didn't know that we knew. I've seen seen similar ops, where we had people on site in an OP gathering intelligence on a target for months, even years, in preparation and gathering intelligence.

[daleo]

9. It would have been good evidence in a trial. n/t

[Scottybeamer70]

12. It's hard to come up with

a new bogey man if ya don't have new material.
I seem to remember a lot of info given out about
Jessica Lynch and Mr. Tillman........all of it
not quite the way it actually happened.

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[2banon]

19. Michel Chossudovsky, a brilliant anaylist and contributer

He is a walking treasure trove of factoids (and analysis)... I had nearly forgotten about this essential tidbit. Thanks for the important reminder and yes, the question(s) remain unanswered, and always will.

[2banon]

16. another misleading article..

I expected to read (or see on vid) information contained in actual "cache of intelligence".. sheesh

[xchrom]

29. I'll be interested if any money trails are exposed. Nt