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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:29 AM
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ABC News Exclusive: Pat Tillman’s Mom Wants General Stanley McChrystal Removed From White House Post
Source: ABC News

President Obama appointed retired General Stanley McChrystal to co-chair a commission on military families this week, but according to perhaps the most prominent military family of the last decade, McChrystal is unfit for that duty.

Mary Tillman, mother of Pat Tillman, the former professional football player turned Army Ranger who was tragically killed by friendly fire 7 years ago, is angered by McChrystal’s appointment, telling ABC News that he was part of the propaganda effort pushing the false tale that Tillman had been killed by the enemy, and keeping the truth from the world -- and their family.

“I was actually pretty shocked to hear it; I don't think it’s the appropriate choice,” Tillman told ABC News. “Considering that we have plenty of evidence indicating that McChrystal was involved in the cover-up of Pat’s death...he's not the right person for that kind of a job.”

Tillman says the president's appointment of McChrystal "makes him look foolish, frankly."



Read more: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/04/pat-til...



I agree. Why the F would you want this man who covered up the truth about a dead soldier to deal with military families? And this guy also dissed Obama and showed he had no respect for the CIC.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:31 AM
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1. I'm with her.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:33 PM
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28. Borrowing from the movie "Midway," "It just doesn't make any sense, Admiral"
:patriot:
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:46 PM
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29. Tillman was assassinated! He was going to be way too much
trouble for Bush and Cheney if he ever got back to the states and out of the military. People would have listened to him.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:28 PM
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56. About time someone stated 'assassination'. McCrystal has rep as torture king too
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:33 PM
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68. +1 --
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:34 PM
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51. Me too. WHY would Obama appoint this traitor in the 1st place? Very bad choice. nt
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:31 AM
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2. McChrystal should be swabbing latrines
K&R
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:01 PM
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41. Agree. What is Pres Obama's motivation to do this particularly mean thing? nm
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:34 PM
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69. An obvious reward -- !!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:31 AM
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3. Team her up with Cindy Sheehan.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:45 AM
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4. She only wants to bash the President.
:sarcasm: To avoid being lumped in with the zealots.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:05 PM
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16. OnyxCollie, think of it. Every family deserves to know the truth
about the death of a son serving in the military. If it was enemy fire they deserve to know. If it was friendly fire, then, more than ever, the family deserves to know. As far as I understand, the killer or killers of Pat Tillman have never been identified. They know who they are. They have either never taken responsibility for their manslaughter or they have never been brought to justice for intentional murder.

Now these things happen in war, virtually every war. But, in this case, the Tillmans have strong evidence that the truth about the murder or accidental death of their son was covered up -- carefully covered up -- under the command of one man, General McChrystal, who they believe was directly involved in the cover-up.

Yes. The Tillmans have a right to know the facts -- all the facts about the death of their son. And they have a right to speak out about McChrystal.

The president should never have yielded to the pressure from the right-wing who wanted McChrystal appointed to this position. It is an insult to the thousands of Americans who have died and been seriously injured in battle in recent years.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:14 PM
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19. And no one has investigated his role in prisoner abuse and torture
at Bagram.

The man is a serial criminal and he probably should be in prison.
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Athena66 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:45 PM
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32. And so should
Bush, Cheney, and all their fellow war criminals. Sadly, none of them will wind up punished in any way- far from it, they seem to be rewarded. :-(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:52 PM
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34. Hi there, Athena. Welcome to DU.
:)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:25 AM
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72. Time to "move forward" says Obama.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:55 PM
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39. +1000
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:33 PM
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67. +1000% -- agree -- !!
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:24 PM
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20. I agree with you completely, JDPriestly.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 12:47 PM by OnyxCollie
Pat Tillman most likely was murdered for his beliefs.

What is certain is that he, like Jessica Lynch, was a character in a propaganda campaign to increase approval for war. A propaganda campaign like the Pentagon pundits.

A propaganda campaign which no one has faced any punishment for.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:43 PM
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22. Just read the book Where Men Win Glory
The soldiers who shot Tillman are id'ed. No they were never brought to justice.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:05 PM
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36. I will make a note of that, RamboLiberal
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:08 PM
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52. Trevor Alders the SAW gunner is named in the book
as the soldier who probably killed Tillman. Only punishment he & others firing on Tillman's position got was to be RFS'ed out of Rangers back to regular Army.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:25 PM
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55. Where Men Win Glory is an amazing book. The absurdity of war is on full display.
Hotheaded young men, dying for a "firefight" -- they found one and kept firing . . . on Tillman and his colleagues.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:50 AM
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5. Kick and Rec! Pretty unreal that he'd be given such a position.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:51 AM
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6. Not at all an apropriate job for a man with his history
Should be in jail, it seems to me.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:00 AM
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7. I wonder who's stupid bone-headed move this was?
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Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:32 AM
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9. The commander-in-chief's. nt
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:58 AM
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15. I guess I should have used that sarcasm thingy.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:56 PM
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61. What would give you the idea he was in charge??
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gussmith Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:04 PM
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30. Did You Guess CIC?
This is pure Obama, trying to be inclusive and conciliatory.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:13 AM
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8. I'm with her (and Pat). Republicon tool McChrystal needs to go...
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:39 AM
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10. I`m with Mrs. Tillman
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:42 AM
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11. I was at first shocked when I heard Obama had appointed McChrystal...
...but then I remembered how many times Obama has shocked me in the past by his poor choices, and the shock dissipated into just another slap of disappointment in him.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:47 AM
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12. Next Up
Next, Obama announced he'll be appointing Rich Warren to the DADT DOD transition team.......
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:49 AM
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13. he should face a court martial and loss on retirement benes
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:51 AM
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14. I'm with Mrs. Tillman nt
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:10 PM
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17. He should be gone.
What the hell
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:11 PM
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18. McChrystal should be peelin potatoes in the brig
What a POS. He's not fit for any duty other than that~
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:35 PM
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21. K&R
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:47 PM
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23. I bet she does, and I don't blame her. (n/t)
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:11 PM
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24. This sounds suspiciously like
some sort of inside-the-Beltway deal, done at the time of his recall/resignation --- wink, wink --- wait a period of time and then we'll find another job for you.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:24 PM
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26. agreed
Still pathetic. Ugh.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:14 PM
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25. K & R
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:28 PM
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27. She's right. It is time for new advisors Mr. President /nt
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:34 PM
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31. i don't see how Obama could turn around and give this man a job. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:52 PM
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38. Both the Obamas are involved in this project. n/t
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:13 PM
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53. Maybe Obama is in absolute awe of the general.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:30 PM
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM
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33. If McChrystal was an honorable man and soldier
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 02:51 PM by Loki
he would resign effective immediately. We shall see just what kind of a man he really is. AND, why isn't General Wesley Clark in this position?
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:59 PM
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62. Wes Clark has met with Mary Tillman, and has said many times that
the Pentagon needs to re-open the case regarding Tillman's death. He thought it all sounded like a cover-up. I remember him talking about this on Keith Olberman's show a while back.

General Clark has always been ignored by Obama. After all, he is a General who happens to be a DEMOCRAT :scared:. Also, he recently wrote a piece in the Washington Post stating the reasons why we should NOT get involved in Libya. (slippery slope/quagmire,etc.).



















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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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35. I am not following news like I used to - I didn't know about this appointment - it is revolting and
repulsive.

What a downer.

Our military brass gets away with murder
- and then gets rewarded for murder.

It's an insult to the genuine sincerity and bravery of our parent-child-sibling-friend-lover soldiers who gave their lives throughout the years.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:10 PM
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37. Pat Tillman’s Mom never really loved him!
:cry:
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:49 PM
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45. She's just a single-issue fringe voter!
:cry:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:08 PM
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57. She's worse than the terrorists!
:cry:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:56 PM
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40. Pres Obama's chess game just took a sickening turn for the worse.
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Jumping John Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:35 PM
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42. I have called the USO and Senators and others in an attempt to help the
Tillman Military Family convince Stanley McChrystal to be removed as co-chair of Joining Forces. I have also called Yale to have James Levinsohn fire Stanley McChrystal and urge McChrystal himself to resign.

I have also gone to the Joining Forces web site and posted my story of what I did in their 'Tell us your story of what you did to show support for a military family.'

So yea!!!
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theywillhatethis Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:46 PM
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43. McChrystal's handling of the Tillman situation was atrocious
Too many cover-ups were happening during those times. I think he should be questioned about his decisions.
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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:47 PM
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44. This is something
That most of us can agree upon.

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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 04:50 PM
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46. McChrystal should have been retired after his former idiocy. The only reason I imagine...
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 04:59 PM by freshwest
Obama gave the man another chance and more responsibilities was a need to 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer.'

After the 'birther' doctor hullaboo, these dissidents in the military need to be observed before they attempt a coup. I'm not talking conspiracy, but history.

And if these goons didn't have support with their underlings or the establishment, they couldn't get anything done day-to-day, so they are not without influence no matter what our gut tells us.

I hate to pay their retirement, since when they leave they'll be overpaid by contractors, FOX news or start new careers as lobbyists.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:00 PM
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47. Um yeah totally agree. nt
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:04 PM
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48. Is there a petition or something
going we can participate in to help amplify her request that McCrystal be removed?
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:20 PM
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49. And people still want to think Obama is doing the right thing?!?!
Puhleeze!!! He absolutely has NO BALLS!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:25 PM
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50. "makes him look foolish, frankly."
Yes it does.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:32 AM
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70. It makes him look sleazy and cowardly. Why does McCrystal need to be paid off?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:15 PM
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54. Apparently she isnt afraid of "friendly fire". nm
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2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:15 PM
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58. I'm really trying to wrap my brain around a few of Obama's appointments..
On this one, speculation upon speculation delivers to me not a wit of anything that makes any sense whatsoever.

Maybe our dear leader isn't actually as bright as we all perceived him to be during the 2008 campaign. Maybe he seemed so intelligent as compared to the blithering moron that occupied the WH before him, and therefore we concluded thusly while breathing a huge collective sigh of relief, looking forward to sanity and reason as well as all the number of things we hoped to see reversed/repealed.

:shrug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:16 PM
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59. Krakauer assails McChrystal and his command in "Where Men Win Glory"
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Men-Win-Glory-Odyssey/dp/03...

A fantastic book about a remarkable man (Tillman) and career lying assholes in McChrystal and his lot.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:25 PM
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63. I am with her too!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:59 PM
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64. Just part of the new pattern of promoting those who are the worst offenders.
Remember what happened to the people in charge of Air Defense and Pentagon Security on 9-11? The people who failed so miserably at their jobs.

Nothing. Some even got promotions.

A disgusting appointment that should be vacated immediately.

REC.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:16 PM
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65. So do i
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:32 PM
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66. McCrystal should be removed ---
and probably put in prison!!

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:44 AM
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71. I want to throw them ALL OUT!
Time for a REAL *change*!
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 10:14 AM
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73. To paraphrase Spencer Tracy in "Inherit the Wind": Break him.
Make him a private. I have no serious objection to the exalted position of Private McChrystal.
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