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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:32 AM
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Spain says no to torture probe of Bush officials
Source: The Associated Press

MADRID -- A Spanish judge has thrown out a request that he probe six senior Bush administration officials accused of creating a legal framework for the torture of terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay prison.

Judge Eloy Velasco said in a four-page ruling issued Wednesday that the United States has told Spain the U.S. government is holding investigations of its own.

Velasco said for this reason, Spain cannot apply its doctrine of universal jurisdiction, which holds that, under some circumstances, crimes allegedly committed in other countries can be prosecuted in Spain's National Court.

The judge was acting on a complaint brought by human rights lawyers in 2009.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/14/2166728/spain-say...
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:37 AM
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1. We accomplished that mission a long time ago.
"the United States has told Spain the U.S. government is holding investigations of its own."

We put the torture mastermind Lyndie England in jail for two years.

This is now a non-issue because all the perpetrators of American Torture have been brought to justice!

-90% Jimmy

:sarcasm:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:43 AM
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5. Hey! I'm pretty sure her boyfriend served a few months, too!
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:45 AM
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2. It's time to look to the future, not backwards
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 08:46 AM by howaboutme
Looking backwards and enforcing accountability is a reckless attempt to make sure that others will not repeat these atrocities and follow in their footsteps.

Politicians have a penchant of "taking the punishment of other politicians off the table" because they might need a fair turnaround someday.

"We are taking the impeachment of Bush off the table" - Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer

:grr:
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:05 AM
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3. Obama won't allow an investigation either , so no surprise here.
nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:26 AM
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4. According to the article, the US is holding investigations
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:57 AM
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8. According to Chimpy McCokespoon,
the US was holding investigations to see who leaked the identity of Valerie Plame.

I'm sure these "investigations" will be just as thorough.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:31 AM
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9. HUH? eom
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:37 AM
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10. Remember when Chimpy said, paraphrasing,
"If someone's leaking information in my administration, I want to know about it." This was in regards to the Valerie Plame affair.

When the House Oversight Committee held a hearing, the person in charge of conducting any investigations into the leaking of VP's identity was asked if he had been ordered by the President to investigate.

His answer was "No."
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:08 PM
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14. acknowledged...eom
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:21 AM
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11. i'm not holding my breath
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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:46 AM
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6. Another country with no balls
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:47 AM
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7. We leaned on Spain; Spain leaned on its judge. So much for the rule of law.
Shameful.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:38 PM
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12. Wikileaks and the leaked Embassy cables have shown us how
this injustice works. The U.S. does all it's dealing behind closed doors with foreign governments
and gives them kick backs in return for the favor. Corruption is rampant worldwide. Spain is just
another disapointing country like Sweden when it comes to serving the greater good.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:41 PM
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13. "United States has told Spain the U.S. government is holding investigations of its own"
lololololololol
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