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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:53 PM
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Priest admits affair with Monterey County schools superintendent
Source: San Bernardino County Sun

SAN BERNARDINO - A Roman Catholic priest with a worldwide television ministry based here has admitted to having a sexual relationship with his cousin, the Monterey County superintendent of schools.

The Rev. Michael Manning confirmed by phone that he had the relationship with Monterey County Superintendent of Schools Nancy Kotowski, when questioned about copies of correspondence sent to this newspaper that appeared to point to the two breaking off the relationship more than two years ago.


"We've been such good friends and there's a deep love we have for each other," Manning said. "The sexuality was secondary. It's very hard when you care for someone, but I love my priesthood more. I admit the fact of my sinfulness. I've done wrong. That's why I've stopped."


Kotowski briefly reflected on her relationship with Manning that spanned decades.



Read more: http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20110406/NEWS12/1... |lateststories



Cousins?!? Ewwww....
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:55 PM
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1. If they would allow priest to marry
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:01 PM by Drale
I would take the bet that incidents among the priesthood would become almost non existent.

EDIT: for spelling
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:58 PM
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3. That's funny! "Priesthood wood..."
The church should opt for chemical castration to eliminate these faux pas.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:58 PM
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4. If she's his first cousin, they still couldn't marry.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:01 PM
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5. No but he might have found a non cousin women to love and "do"
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:26 PM
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14. Plenty of priests have had affairs with non-cousins.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:18 PM
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8. It was good enough for Queen Victoria to marry her first cousin.
Hey, I'm just happy it's a scandal about a priest messing around with an adult for a change.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:23 PM
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9. She is his second cousin. And single.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:28 PM
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20. You are misinformed
First-cousin marriages are legal in California.

http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelicenses/p/califor...
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:06 PM
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32. Depends on the state. In many states, first cousins can marry.
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:24 PM
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33. Many places allow cousin marriage.
cousins are not actually very close genetically. Charles Darwin actually married his first cousin.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:23 PM
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10. Marriage does not cure pedophilia.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:47 PM
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29. I think he/she meant the 'normal' priests

Presuming that there are enough of them, but the church has a pedophile problem, which they didn't consider a problem till recently, for at least a thousand years.

And so again it was behind the rest of the world in terms of moral enlightenment.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:33 PM
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38. Nice slam. NOT! - False equivalency.
It would not surprise me to learn that preistly paedophila had something in common with practices like boarding school faggotry, ship's cabin boys, soldier's catamites and so forth. There is no special urge towards children, they are simply convenient, coercable, non-threatening and easily obtained.

Nothing makes such practices right in today's day and age, but in their place and time they were viewed as an acceptable (to a greater or lesser degree) means of seeking "release for one's frustrations."

Crude, harsh, insensitve, call it what you will, it doesn't change the truth of what was once the "norm". Given the conservative nature of the Church, it really is little surprise that the practice has survived there so long.

Allow priests to marry and that whole aspect of preistly paedophilia goes away.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:26 PM
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15. I don't think so.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:27 PM by caseymoz
They'd still be weird. The Catholic Church is run by a creepy men's club.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:28 PM
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18. Well then maybe they should allow women to also become priests
I know that won't happen anytime soon, but these are the things that need to happen if the Catholic church doesn't want to die.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:33 PM
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23. Where would all the creepy guys go, then?
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:33 PM by caseymoz
The CC is not like other Christian churches. It can't bend that way. I'm convinced that every non-clerical Catholic will leave it before those guys would allow women to become priests.

Why? Because it's for their aggrandizement. Now, I'm an atheist, with fourteen years of Catholic education behind me, but that's what I see.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:37 PM
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24. Strip club
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:41 PM by Drale
I don't know where do creepy guys hang out these days?

EDIT: If they won't serve with women, then I say what I said to the people who claims people would serve the military with gays. Let them leave if they don't like it.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:43 PM
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27. Wrong kind of creepy.

Those two creepies don't mesh well. One is anti-sex, at least as far as appearances go, the other isn't.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:40 PM
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41. Not true -- hetereosexual males are our pedophiles, that's true --
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 12:43 PM by defendandprotect
hetereosexual males are 100X more likely to sexually abuse a child --

than homosexual males.

However, pedophiles would be unlikely candidates for marriage --

though, of course, the notorious"Father James Porter" did marry and have children . . .

and later he was found to be not trying to sexually abuse the family baby sitter --

but that he had proably sexualy abused his own children!


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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:57 PM
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2. oh. dear. nt
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:23 PM
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11. delete
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:25 PM by caseymoz
But I'll admit it's an improvement.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:07 PM
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6. Two CONSENTING ADULTS?

I find that refreshing.

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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:16 PM
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7. In this context, it's
funny and sad at the same time.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:24 PM
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13. Incest, though. It's his cousin.

But I'll admit it's an improvement.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:28 PM
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21. Not incest in the state of California
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:24 PM
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12. I'm really going to hell. Before I read it I figured it was a male..Shame on me...n/t
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:45 PM
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28. So did I !! But you know the old saying about priests and politicians...
"They are okay no matter what they do, unless they get caught in bed with a DEAD woman or a live boy!"

I'm sure he's gonna do just fine, despite this very "normal" affair...heck every politician or clergy member has them!!!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:27 PM
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16. FWIW, and I know it isn't much, first-cousin marriages are legal in California
:hi:
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:28 PM
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19. Genetically not recommended, though. nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:30 PM
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22. You are absolutely right about that, but at the age of the couple in question it's not an issue
They're well past that one.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:48 PM
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30. Which is true, but still,

it's uncomfortable. Not anything else, just uncomfortable.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:17 PM
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44. Doesn't lessen the ick factor imo. Or the hypocrisy. Not ok to marry same gender but ok to shag
your cousin if you are a priest as long as you be sure to ask Jesus to forgive you.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:56 PM
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31. They are second cousins. n/t
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:09 PM
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40. Thanks for clearing that up...
I was wondering why the 'cousin' angle of the story wasn't much bigger...
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:27 PM
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17. No doubt the slimy Rev. Michael Manning new girlfriend is younger than the old....
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:32 PM by LaPera
These fuckers just keep doing the same thing over & over....they are human NOT God - but they try their best to convince the sheep otherwise and it works, the moronic actually believe there's something special about some asshole spewing out his bullshit up on a big amplified stage, and that the asshole gets direct messages from God....when in reality the fucker is a con man, a money stealing huckster, a pussy-loving human liar....Just like so many.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:38 PM
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25. Hey adam/eve or evolution the third generation is through incest
The dirty truth neither party wants us to know.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:41 PM
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26. If they can't have children and they are consenting adults it is none of my business. - n/t
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goobergoober01 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:45 PM
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34. SAYS IT ALL... The sexuality was secondary. It's very hard
yes it IS very hard

that is GOD telling you to use it for something other than filtering wine
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:47 PM
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35. "Cousins"? Well, at Least it was not a little boy! nt.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:26 PM
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36. California allows 1st cousins to marry
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:26 PM
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37. I did not know that
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:38 PM
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42. my posts are educational
as well as entertaining

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:35 PM
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39. Good for them. Adults should fuck. nt
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:12 PM
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43. "The sexuality was secondary." Yeah right.
His cousin yet. Particularly when you consider that second cousin marriage is grounds for annulment in the Catholic Church by the doctrine of consanguinity.

And this was apparently his first cousin. Yech.

There was also this.....

"That's the neat thing with Jesus. There can be the chance of starting again," Manning said.

Hmm. Apparently no concern about the hypocrisy and how that will affect his ministry. Jesus has forgiven him so everything is hunky dory. How convenient.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:52 PM
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45. While I find the cousin aspect icky, as long as children are not involved, it's no big deal
I have no problem with priests having sexual relationships with other adults. I doubt that many priests are actually celibate. My only problem is that I suspect that many who are involved in consensual affairs with adults help to cover up the behavior of the pedophiles to keep their own affairs secret.
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