Guantanamo Bay terror suspect 'dies after exercising'

[Ichingcarpenter]

Source: BBC


An Afghan inmate at the US prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has collapsed and died after exercising, according to US military officials.

Awal Gul, 48, was accused of being a Taliban commander and part of the al-Qaeda network. He had been held without charges since October 2002.

Mr Gul had been using an elliptical machine, which simulates running.
US Southern Command officials have said he "died of apparent natural causes" on Tuesday evening.
Officials said Mr Gul had collapsed in the shower after using the exercise equipment.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12361834

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Held without charges or trial for NINE YEARS

[Solly Mack]

1. K&R

[Disintermedia8]

2. Natural causes!!

Oh yeah, we don't torture.

[aquart]

3. That would stress my heart.

Where do we get our fucking nerve?

[democrank]

4. Torture? What torture?

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. He was exercising

His Civil Rights? .... I mean come on Nine years?

[ixion]

10. How do you know that?

I mean, it's pretty much S.O.P. to cover abuse up in the military. I think it's foolish to take them on their word.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. It was a play on words

if you didn't notice. .... In other related news

Psychologist cleared in prison probe


DAYTON, Ohio (WDTN) - A regulatory board won't pursue disciplinary action against a Wright State University psychologist over treatment of detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
Human Rights groups claimed Larry James refused to intervene when an interrogator and three guards forced a prisoner to strip nearly naked, then wear women's underwear.
James said in his 2008 book, "Fixing Hell," that the Army sent him to clean up abuses in Guantanamo.
A Wright State spokesperson says the university is pleased with the decision.



http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/psychologist-cleared-in-prison-probe

[ixion]

13. my bad... no coffee yet

:toast:

[Hissyspit]

6. "held without charges since October 2002"

Hooray, America. You have such faith in your Constitution.

[SpiralHawk]

9. ...Held without charges...

That is so wrong...

[ixion]

11. very, very wrong, indeed.

:(

[boppers]

7. "elliptical machine"?

Well, at least they get TV advertised exercise equipment?

[No Elephants]

8. His death could be accidental. It happens. Holding him for 9 years without charging him, let

alone trying him, on other hand, is not accidental.

[Nihil]

14. "He had been held without charges since October 2002."

> collapsed and died after exercising, according to US military officials.

> US Southern Command officials have said he "died of apparent natural causes"

> The authorities plan to send his remains back to Afghanistan.

> Mr Gul had a number of children and grandchildren.

Kidnapped & illegally imprisoned for over a sixth of his life but nobody even
charged him with a crime (never mind brought him to a fair trial).

"Why do they hate us?"

[Robb]

15. For perspective, he either facilitated OBL's escape at Tora Bora, or "we" did.

You have to pick one of those two theories, IMO. Nothing else adds up.

That said, I'm not convinced he couldn't have been tried effectively. He should have been. And now he's effectively martyred.

[blackspade]

16. I guess exercising is the new word for torture.

Either try these guys as criminals in court are send them home.

[alp227]

17. and we Americans paid for it

just detaining him without charges but no convictions. At least when Jeffrey Dahmer got killed in the prison gym he had already been convicted of his multiple murders and rapes.

[LisaL]

18. It is possible to die during running.

Happened to someone I knew.

[Ichingcarpenter]

dupe

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. Without charges and held in prison for 9 years?

I think you are missing the point....

No one so far has suggested foul play

[KansDem]

20. Jim Fixx -- marathon runner

On 20 July 1984, Fixx died at the age of 52 of a fulminant heart attack, after his daily run, on Vermont Route 15 in Hardwick. The autopsy revealed that atherosclerosis had blocked one coronary artery 95%, a second 85%, and a third 70%. Although there were opponents of Fixx's beliefs who said this was evidence that running was harmful, medical opinion continued to uphold the link between exercise and longevity.<3> In 1986, exercise physiologist Kenneth Cooper published an inventory of the risk factors that might have contributed to Fixx's death <4>. Granted access to his medical records and autopsy, and after interviewing his friends and family, Cooper concluded that Fixx was genetically predisposed (his father died of a heart attack aged 43 and Fixx himself had a congenitally enlarged heart) and several lifestyle issues (Fixx was a heavy smoker prior to beginning running aged 36, he had a stressful occupation, he had undergone a second divorce, and his weight before he took up running had ballooned to 220lbs). <5>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx#Death