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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:06 PM
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Sistani condemns coalition handling of Shi'ite uprising
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/OB762972.htm

NAJAF, Iraq, April 7 (Reuters) - Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani on Wednesday condemned the way U.S.-led occupation forces were tackling a Shi'ite uprising in Iraq and called for calm on all sides and an end to violence.

Shi'ite militiamen loyal to another Shi'ite cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr, have been battling U.S.-led coalition forces in central and southern Iraq since Sunday, in an uprising that has claimed at least 150 lives.

"We condemn the way the occupying forces are dealing with current events, just as we condemn aggression against public and private property which leads to unrest and stops Iraqi officials from carrying out their duties in the service of the people," a statement issued by Sistani's office in Najaf said.

"We call for the matter to be dealt with wisdom and patience and in peaceful ways, abstaining from any provocative steps which will lead to more chaos and bloodshed."

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:08 PM
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1. Uh oh...
That wasn't a admonishment of al-Sadr. I think I know what side he's on now - and it isn't ours... :scared:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:09 PM
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2. A chill went up my spine when I read this headline n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:11 PM
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4. Unfortunately his Brother cleric is about to be turned into Bloody Chunks
By a couple of Mk-84 LGBs.

Thats one way to win the CRUSADE.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:11 PM
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3. Check
and mate.

We're fucked.

Okay, I take it back as it was an understatement. We are officially beyond fucked.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:20 PM
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20. That's a good way of saying it! - "We are officially beyond fucked."
I'm surprised the Kurds haven't joined forces yet.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:26 PM
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21. If the new Iraqi DOI ends up being read by the Kurd leaders
they will definitely join the insurrection.

That document guarantees Kurdish autonomy.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:11 PM
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5. In his round about way I think he is....
giving al-Sadr an okie doke! :scared:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:17 PM
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6. What are the chances of this happening?
"We call for the matter to be dealt with wisdom and patience and in peaceful ways, abstaining from any provocative steps which will lead to more chaos and bloodshed."
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 02:50 PM
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13. Zero!
Not until after November 2. With Bush in power, the damage is irreversible.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:21 PM
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7. ",...abstaining from any provocative steps,..."
Unfortunately, EVERY one knows the Bush loyalists are totally into provocation and the rule of force.

Good gawd,...honestly, the neocons should be charged and shackled before they provoke another world war. I believe waiting for an uncertain election is waiting too long and risking that it will be too late.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 03:40 PM
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15. Unfortunately, you are spot on.
Sadr and Sistani may be showing everyone in the world only way to deal with these Neo-con thugs. I hope the thugs will abide by US law and respect the electorial process - what are the chances?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 01:24 PM
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8. everything is going according to pLan
this just another freedom hater. a smaLL minority who fears a democratic iraq because they have no part in it.

it's aLL peaches & cream.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:11 PM
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18. Oh yeah, and DON'T we just know Iraq is SO much better off now
that Saddam's not around anymore, 'eh? And how 'bout those Iraqi people? They're better off now, too, aren't they?

Okay, all you apologists! Time to stand up and speak that company line! Let's hear ya! Hello!? Anybody home?

I have NOT heard this inevitable, knee-jerk comeback from pundits since all of this broke out. Wonder where they all are. They sounded so sure of themselves...
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 02:05 PM
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9. Bland statement.
Somehow he manages to try to offend no one. He legitimizes the occupation authority but also legitimizes other de facto powers' existence.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 02:21 PM
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11. A nod is the same as a wink to a blind horse n/t
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 02:08 PM
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10. Sistani is playing good shia, bad shia with the authority
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 02:25 PM
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12. This is not good
Sistani is a very good diplomat. A strong show of support for al-Sadr but keeping himself separate and above the fray.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 03:15 PM
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14. Exactly right
He gave Sadr the green light on Friday when he said he was through talking to Americans.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:00 PM
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16. Very good article in the CSM today
On the Sustani/al-Sadr political play. It reiterates what you said the other day that Sustani is hoping that the US will deal with Sadr's people for them.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0407/p01s02-wome.html
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 12:09 AM
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22. Very good article
Thanks for the link.
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:10 PM
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17. This sounds like a warning to the USA, not to al-Sadr.
"Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani on Wednesday condemned the way U.S.-led occupation forces were tackling a Shi'ite uprising in Iraq and called for calm on all sides and an end to violence."

Where does he say "calm on all sides?" Sounds like our American press is connecting dots that aren't there again. Sistani is reprimanding the coalition forces, not the Iraqi resistance.

Is there another quote from him that explicitly reprimands al-Sadr?? I haven't found it.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:16 PM
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19. By condeming the US, Sistani is giving the green light to al-Sadr
But he says it in such a way as not to really piss off the US against Sistani, and also al-Sadr gets the message that Sistani will not interfere in what al-Sadr is doing.
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