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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 06:51 AM
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Falluja Engulfed in Fighting
Fierce street battles are raging in Falluja between resistance fighters defending the town and US occupation forces, who are launching missile attacks in and around residential areas.

Hospital sources say at least 52 Iraqis have died in attacks since Tuesday in the besieged town which American forces sealed off on Sunday, reported Aljazeera's correspondent Ahmad Mansur. More than 100 others, including children, have been injured.

Twenty-six of those killed were from one family...
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A73529F1-1554-4C...

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 06:55 AM
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1. CNN confirming fighting continues INSIDE Falluja...
Still no hard US casualty #'s from there, though...
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:03 AM
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8. Report on Fallujah from Der Spiegel sounds very bad
In German:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,294398,00....

In einem Stadtviertel sollen die Leichen von zehn amerikanischen Soldaten auf der Strae liegen. Die US-Armee hat das bisher nicht besttigt. Ein anderer Augenzeuge will in der Nhe von Falludscha den Absturz eines US-Armeehelikopters beobachtet haben. rzte in Falludscha sagten, rund hundert Verletzte seien ins Krankenhaus gebracht worden. In Moscheen der Stadt wurde zum Heiligen Krieg aufgerufen.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:09 AM
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9. translation
In a borough the corpses of ten American soldiers are to lie on the road. The US army did not confirm that so far. Another eye-witness wants to have observed the crash of a US army helicopter in the proximity of Falludscha. Physicians in Falludscha said, approximately hundreds hurt in the hospital were brought. In mosques of the city to the holy war one called.

http://translate.google.com/translate_t

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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:22 AM
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12. More from Der Spiegel
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 10:42 AM by hatrack
Die US-Armee hat die Stadt Falludscha, die als Hochburg der Aufstndischen gilt, von der Auenwelt abgeschnitten. Die 300.000 Einwohner sind eingekesselt. In der vergangenen Nacht lieferten sich Marineinfanteristen und bewaffnete Kmpfer im Osten der Stadt heftige Auseinandersetzungen, sagten Augenzeugen. Die Amerikaner griffen mehrere Ziele aus der Luft an. 60 Iraker sollen dabei ums Leben gekommen sein, berichten Augenzeugen. Allein 25 sollen zu einer Grofamilie gehren, deren Haus von einer Rakete getroffen wurde.

"The US Army has cut off the city of Falluja, considered the center of the resistance, from the outside world. Its 300,000 residents are encircled. Throughout last night, eyewitnesses said that Marine infantry and armed fighters violently confronted each other in the eastern part of the city. The Americans attacked multiple targets from the air. Eyewitnesses state that 60 Iraqis were killed in these attacks. 25 members of a single family were reported killed when their house was struck by a rocket."

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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 06:55 AM
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2. Flowers at our feet?
More like flowers at our headstones.

Fucking PNAC idiots.

Let them go and "pacify" Fallujah. After all if everything is just gravy then surely a quick chat will sort things out.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 07:05 AM
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3. Sounds like a page out of the Israeli playbook in Palestine...
...surround a town, seal it off, then kick the crap out of the inhabitants regardless of combatant status. When will bulldoze the remains of Fallujah?

The concept of winning friends and influencing enemies left Washington DC in January 2001 with Bill Clinton.
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 07:21 AM
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4. Exactly
Edited on Wed Apr-07-04 07:22 AM by Magleetis
this is I/P II once we start killing children with helicopters there will be no peace. Killing is all our government knows.
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 07:23 AM
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5. Doesn't sound like they're doing the Israeli thing just yet
After all, their defense minister (Mofaz) actually gave an order to "kill, not just to occupy" when invading Palestinian cities like Jenin and Nablus back in 2002.

The intention was to "make sure that any clash with wanted persons and terror groups would end with corpses ... lying around" 1

I'm not sure Rummy has gone that far yet, but give it time :eyes:

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1. See Amir Oren, Ha'aretz, 26 March 2004. The quotes cited are from the Hebrew edition only.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 09:51 AM
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7. "You have to destroy the village in order to save it"
Does that phrase sound familiar?
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:11 AM
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10. Not to Bush*
He wasn't there.

Nothing like being condemned to repeat the mistakes of the past...
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cspiguy Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 07:54 AM
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6. it's about time - end this or get out NOW.
n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:14 AM
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11. From a military and police stand point you are right
They HAVE to put this down NOW or it will become unmanageable, but it ain't gonna easy and it ain't gonna be pretty.

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 10:31 AM
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13. From The Same Article:
"US marines tried for a third time to take control of the town but were forced to retreat."
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