CBS Radio News just said there's an unconfirmed report

[Judi Lynn]

of a helicopter downed near Fallujah. Also said that there's been over 30 Americans killed in the last three days.

Anyone else hear anything?

[aquart]

1. I heard the number 30.

I still don't hear any specific casualty reports from Fallujah.

[Judi Lynn]

6. They're not going to be in any hurry to release numbers

from what we've heard. Sounded as if they were starting to clinch up a couple of days ago, when they said they'd not be reporting the injured every day......

Earlier, heard that there were 13, instead of 12 who were killed in that skirmish in the town a few miles away from Fallujah.

[lindashaw]

2. Not about the helicopter. I'm trying to establish how many have

died. The Guardian says 30: At least a dozen US Marines were killed in the town of Ramadi near the Sunni hotbed of Fallujah, a US official said...Five marines were also reported killed in fighting in an operation to get Americans into Fallujah itself...A further three US soldiers were killed in Baghdad. The latest confirmation of deaths meant more than 30 US troops have been killed since trouble erupted in three cities on Sunday.

[maddezmom]

3. haven't heard anything about the helicopter

Fierce fighting kills 30 troops in 3 days
The mounting death toll, intensified attacks and growing unrest are putting a strain on American strategy.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/04/07/State/Fierce_fighting...

[bluestateguy]

4. The "30 dead" is old news from yesterday

The copter down is new news. Sometimes these copters go down with no loss of life. We'll see.

[Dogmudgeon]

5. Link to some of these issues

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040...

Possibly twelve Marines have been killed tonight.

Depending on the number of Ramadi deaths, Tuesday's casualties could have brought the the three-day total as high as about 30 Americans and more than 130 Iraqis killed in the fighting.

Corrections welcomed.

--bkl

[leftchick]

7. Anyone know if one of these weapons could down a helicopter?

I just came across this photo at al-jazeera's site. This is from Falluja today....

[Judi Lynn]

9. Jeez, that looks serious, leftchick. I'll bet that would do the job. n/t

[fishnfla]

14. that looks like an RPG on the ground there

to the right.That could bring down a copter at close range The thing the guy is holding could be an LAW, a shoulder mounted light anti-tank weapon, or a motar tube, cant tell. the guy to the left is holding an AK-47 and probably some ammo in the case

[Judi Lynn]

16. Thanks for the info. Heard the term "LAW" just yesterday here

and had no idea what on earth it was, and was too timid to ask.

It's good to put the other names with the pictures, also. Very helpful.

[Judi Lynn]

8. The helicopter is mentioned in this Reuters story, still unconfirmed

(snip)
Locals in Falluja said a U.S. helicopter had gone down on Tuesday but the U.S. military said it had no information.
(snip)

(snip)
In Falluja, where Marines were pursuing a major crackdown after last week's killings of four American private security guards, doctors said 36 people had been killed on Tuesday.

Among the dead were 25 civilians in a house destroyed by what locals said was a U.S. helicopter strike. A U.S. military spokeswoman in Baghdad said she had no word on the incident.
(snip)

~~~~ link ~~~~

Sorry, my link didn't work. I'll try it again!

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&s... §ion=news

Well, this one seems to work, momentarily. Sorry for the inconvenience, DU'ers.

[dudeness]

10. any news on how many dead iraqis?

.

[Judi Lynn]

11. From the Reuters article posted just above, some info. on your question.

(snip)
In Falluja, where Marines were pursuing a major crackdown after last week's killings of four American private security guards, doctors said 36 people had been killed on Tuesday.

Among the dead were 25 civilians in a house destroyed by what locals said was a U.S. helicopter strike. A U.S. military spokeswoman in Baghdad said she had no word on the incident.
(snip/...)

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&s...

This sounds really sketchy, still, of course.

[dudeness]

13. thanks judilyn

n/t

[maddezmom]

18. 130 Iraqi's killed according to this article

Since the weekend, about 30 coalition soldiers (mostly Americans) and more than 130 Iraqis have died as occupation forces clash with both Sunni and Shia Muslims.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPSt...

[maddezmom]

21. and another claims 150

Depending on the number of Ramadi deaths, Tuesday's casualties could have brought the total since Sunday as high as about 30 Americans and more than 150 Iraqis killed in the fighting.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/front/story/1271314p-83576...

[sampsonblk]

12. My (poor) count - Anyone else have real numbers?

My understanding:

Ramadi = approx 12 US Marines Dead.

But there is fighting going on at several other places. Anyone have numbers?

Nasiriyah = ?

Kut = ?

Karbala = ?

Amarah = ?

[seasat]

15. Lord, I hope it's not a buddy of mine.

He just got transfered back to Iraq, stationed at Fallujah, and is a helicopter pilot.

[HereSince1628]

17. 19 American troops killed April 6

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/comments.php?id=P694_0_1_0

That number is a fraction higher than what Vietnam avg'd.

[Cooley Hurd]

19. This is what I have (yesterday's totals alone):

12 dead from the fighting in Ramadi, no #'s from either Sadr City or Najaf, and Jamie McIntyre (CNN Pentagon correspondent) said 5 marines dead in Falljah, but said this *only once*. So I have 17 US fatalities (yesterday alone).

[fishnfla]

20. 3 marine assaults, and retreats, on Fallujah so far

according to al jazeera.

The toll will rise today, they have to go back in.

[ConcernedCanuk]

22. See my posts with links

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HERE

[nonbelief]

23. I'm Just Sick Of It.

I'm constantly amazed that people consider the deaths of the invading Coalition soldiers more tragic than the deaths of local civilians

[Cooley Hurd]

24. Hi JudiLyn

In an effort to keep dupes down to a minimum, and to provide a more cohesive method for tracking casualties in the ever-evolving situation in Iraq, I encourage you and everyone who has posted in this thread to repost your numbers (confirmed and unconfirmed) in this LBN thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Thanks for your cooperation!