Now Hackers Have Taken Down Mastercard.com as Revenge for Julian Assange

[Hissyspit]

Source: Business Insider

CYBERWAR: Now Hackers Have Taken Down Mastercard.com As Revenge For Julian Assange

Joe Weisenthal | Dec. 8, 2010, 4:51 AM |

It looks like the group that successfully took down the website of Julian Assange's Swiss Bank have claimed another victim.

Mastercard.com is down, and Anon_operation just tweeted that it's due to a DDOS attack. Of course, Mastercard is one of the payment services that cut off the ability to donate to Wikileaks:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cyber-hackers-that-took-down-swiss-bank-site-have-now-taken-down-mastercardcom-2010-12

[xchrom]

1. tee-hee. -- oh this is fun to watch. nt

[subsuelo]

102. Yes it is. Go Anarchists!!! n/t

[Wednesdays]

105. nvm

[Name removed]

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[CBHagman]

238. Unless you are affected by it.

Oh, how brave to be vindictive and vengeful. Why, it's the equivalent of going on a hunger strike or facing the police dogs or maybe a death squad. :sarcasm:

Schadenfreude doesn't become you, DU.

[trud]

254. no human is affected by it

It doesn't prevent transactions from being processed. It's just a well-deserved thumb in the eye of MasterCard.

[Le Taz Hot]

2. Oh, this is gettin' good!

[dipsydoodle]

3. Visa and Mastercard both did it.

but no mention of Amex ? They staying out of the debacle ?

[NoPasaran]

4. Hackers? Cyberterrorists would be more accurate

[GliderGuider]

8. Cyberterrorists? Cyberfreedomfighters would be more accurate

When did the people give up the right to protest?

It's about time we remembered that we are sovereign persons.

[Myrina]

30. [phone]

Oh boo hoo poor status quo corporate war profiteers, liars and cheats. FUCK THEM.

I'm so loving this. :bounce:

[subsuelo]

104. Yep. The "bad guys" are always the little guys

especially those who try and take on the rich scumbags running the country (and the world)

[maryf]

236. +1 nt

[madmax]

249. At first I felt uncomfortable

because I was sooo enjoying it but, I see I'm not alone. Maybe I'm not such an awful person. ;)

:bounce: :toast:

[Frisbee]

72. All they did was shut down thier website...

this did not effect their ability to process payments. It was merely a cyber-equivalent of protesting in front of their headquarters.

[elias49]

168. Nothing wrong with that!

Better than doing nothing, cowering in fear that they're going to get spanked if they don't toe the line.

[Frisbee]

170. Couldn't agree more... n/t

[molly77]

124. Joe Lieberman wants a kills switch for the internet.

Bringing down lots of huge corporation's profits..if the US investigates the NY Times WE can no longer say that we have free speech.

Mike Huckabee , Sarah Palin and others are calling for Julian Assange's assassination. They are walking around free. He is in prison without charges.

g bush and company are not even tried for war crimes. Brag about them openly.

Charlie Rangel didn't pay his income taxes and was censured in the House. Willie Nelson could face two years of imprisonment for pot.

The face of fascism in the US is getting uglier every day.

[defendandprotect]

139. More than anything we need to get Liebermann out of Congress... just think ...

he could have been a Trojan Horse brought in by Al Gore -- Wow!

[snagglepuss]

173. I've thought about Lie-berman as trojan horse. Interesting to wonder what

would have happened had shrub hadn't been selected.

[defendandprotect]

213. Gore might have been unfortunate enough to have a nasty fall or ....

be in the wrong plane at the right time ... !!

[rhett o rick]

191. But the Democratic-DLC Machine loves Joe. Ask Rahm. nm

[defendandprotect]

214. DLC is corporate poison within the Democratic Party -- and poison for the party ....

enough DLC influence over the party -- and over the president --

could put us in a POST-Democratic Party era -- !!!

[SugarShack]

246. Yes, Joe's gotta go!

[RoccoR5955]

172. I want a kill switch for Joe LIEberman! n/t

[rhett o rick]

190. Someone should hack Lieberman. (no violence intended, just good clean "fun") nm

[rpannier]

256. I'd say we should hack his website

But he's so f*cking cheap that it would only take two dozen people logging on to overload the system

[rocks]

223. Amen

Amen sister

[xxqqqzme]

225. And Tommy Chong did time for

making pipes!

[earcandle]

242. Timothy Geitner did not pay his income taxes either before his appointment. No big deal then.

[madmax]

252. +10 nt

[CBHagman]

239. It's time to remember we are capable of rational thought.

When did the people give up the right to protest?

It's about time we remembered that we are sovereign persons.

Sabotage is not peaceful protest.

[GliderGuider]

258. Peaceful protest

"Peaceful protest" is useful only if those you are protesting against care what you think.
Many of us believe this is no longer the case, and that they would prefer we protested peacefully so they could continue to ignore us.

As the old joke goes, "First you have to get the mule's attention."

[CBHagman]

263. So you're saying John Lewis was wrong?

Are you saying that those who suffered in the cause of civil rights, labor reform, and so forth ought to have been taking revenge on those who opposed them?

"Peaceful protest" is useful only if those you are protesting against care what you think.
Many of us believe this is no longer the case, and that they would prefer we protested peacefully so they could continue to ignore us.

As the old joke goes, "First you have to get the mule's attention."

[GliderGuider]

267. No, I'm not saying that.

I think that in those cases TPTB still cared about public perception. I think that times have changed since then, and much more power has been consolidated in the hands of the elite. They have stopped listening. We just need to yell a little louder. I don't view what's going on, even with "Anonymous" as revenge. I think it's very loud yelling.

[Le Taz Hot]

10. One person's cyber terrorist is

another person's freedom fighter.

[JDPriestly]

150. Good point. The glee would not be so great if the victim of the

attack was Facebook or some website that ordinary people use every day.

I look on with amazement but I don't like hacking at all. It is a form of bullying. On the other hand there is something satisfying in seeing bullies get bullied.

The US government should not have been keeping so much of this stuff so secret in the first place. Where is all that transparency we were promised?

[madmax]

253. I wonder if we ever had true transparency.

Granted there are 'secrets' that must be gaurded but, we've been way past that for a long, long time. imho.

[Paper Roses]

186. Well put. n/t

[lunatica]

17. Poor innocent Mastercard.com!

They've never punished anyone for having perfect credit and paying on time and in full every month have they. They don't nickel and dime their customers with 'service fees' or raise interest rates at random or threaten their customers with a bad credit rating do they? Why, they're actually the most American of American capitalists! And that's good right?

:sarcasm:

[Lucky Luciano]

19. MasterCard does not do that. The bank that issued the card does that.

MasterCard is just a payment processor. A glorified IT network and nothing more.

[defendandprotect]

138. For years now, these credit cards have been charging 26% and more on

lending a dollar and compounding interest -- adding fees --

If we take a dollar to the bank we're lucky to get .01% on it in savings accounts!

This is crime -- repeated over and again every day against our citizens --

AND CONGRESS HAS DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT FOR DECADES!!!


We're still looking to millionaires and multi-millionaires in Congress to save us

from .... other millionaires and multi-millionaires!!!

Don't think it's gonna work!!!

:evilgrin:

[JDPriestly]

152. Good point, defendandprotect.

[Nihil]

35. Aww ...

... are the poor liddle corporatists getting upset den?

:nopity:

[No Elephants]

41. And Robbin' Hood" terrorized" the rich. They are knowingly risking arrest to

do something in which they believe. So did Thoreau, Ghandi, MLK and many others.

The rest of us--including me, so far--decide which of two corporate funded candidates will control our freedom, blood and treasure, natural resources, climate, etc.. Maybe we're the real criminals.

[Javaman]

46. Your corporatism is showing. nt

[sudopod]

53. Who's in fear of their life over this?

Who's being put in a state of terror?

You debase the meaning of the word "terrorist" when you fling it at anyone you disapprove of.

[Kaleko]

70. K& R for your post.

[Lucky 13]

76. Bloodsucking corporations! Remember, they count as people now.

[sudopod]

82. lol, too true! nt

[ooglymoogly]

206. The folks homeless and dying in the cold winter streets

just to name a few from the fascistic unfairness of a system gone insane just to placate the rich and powerful, now drooling over the trillions in SS, oh wait they already stole that.

[fascisthunter]

63. People With Money: threatening businesses=terrorism

for everyone else: threatening to kill or physically harm people=terrorism

Thank you for exposing your concerns and priorities!

[Forkboy]

65. You can smoke 'em out of their holes.

[WolverineDG]

66. ITA nt

[Lucky 13]

75. Oh noes!! TERRER!!

I think you are little mixed up about who the good guys and who the bad guys are.

[molly77]

127. Lucky 13

I think they already know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. Also who the rich are and who the poor are. They are protecting wealth for the super rich.

I watched Huey Long , Ken Burns' documentary, on Netflix last night.In the beginning , there were interviews of regular people in Louisiana. The poor people said everybody loved him. Mrs. Hodding Carter said right off the bat, everybody in her circles wanted to kill him.

The poor people were always grateful for what he did for them.Granted, he was crooked , but he seemed to have a heart for the people of his state. Did not know he was actually a brilliant man. Campaigned for FDR and may have helped him to get elected the first term. Huey was going to run for president as an Independent before he was shot and killed.

[Lucky 13]

220. The only fear I have is that history will repeat itself.

Perhaps it's inevitable. But I hope not...

[LanternWaste]

85. Specifically which of these sub-definitions of terrorism as classically defined...

Specifically which of these sub-definitions of terrorism as classically defined (or which combination of these) is both relevant and appropriate to the activities of the hackers?

* Secession of a territory to form a new sovereign state or become part of a different state
* Dominance of territory or resources by various ethnic groups
* Imposition of a particular form of government
* Economic deprivation of a population
* Opposition to a domestic government or occupying army
* Religious fanaticism



Or (and I find this more likely), "terrorist" is simply the new "Nazi", something we simply use to dramatically label an idea or action we do not agree with...

[Name removed]

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[Wednesdays]

107. Oh, I am sooooo terrorized by a web site being hacked.

I don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight.

[caseymoz]

109. Oh, I'm terrified of living when they could be amongst us.

Terrorists terrify. It would be a correct term if they terrified people from doing business with Mastercard, or terrified mastercard employees or executives. When did "terrorist" get to be a term for someone who took down a website or interfered with a business making money without having people live in terror, at all? That might strike terror to a banker's heart, but if you're not a banker and use that term, you're either stupid or your just being an asshole.

[molly77]

128. caseymoz

Julian Assange is a whistle blower. Our govt. which wages war for oil and profit are the terrorists.Over a million killed in Iraq alone ...more than that refugees in other countries. Babies born in Fallujah being born horrible deformed from the nukes that we bombed them with.

Big oil does not want to share revenues with the people who have oil under their feet. Off shore Louisiana has a lot of oil. Look what happened to the Gulf of Mexico and was covered up by govt. and BP. WE are told the fish are ok to eat.But the people in the Gulf of Mexico are getting sick , just like Iraq. Big oil wants to run the world.

[caseymoz]

144. Hello, you're right about everything there but . . .

. . . we did not use nukes in Fallujah. We used depleted uranium. That's utterly different, but still poisonous and carcinogenic, so the after-effects are the same.

Also, I doubt big oil wants to run the world. It's a tool that functions in a key niche that makes its people richest and most powerful. One needs to ask: what are they planning to do the their riches and their power after we're out of oil and they've killed and polluted a large proportion of the earth? Yes, I do suspect that they actually foresee this and that there's actually a plan there-- for them. I don't know if the rest of us would like it.

Besides that, you're unquestionably right, but I do wonder why you're telling me this posting on this topic. You seem to agree with me otherwise.

So, are you just introducing yourself.

[chervilant]

240. Looks like

everyone is leaning toward the latter. Interestingly, the progenitor of that insupportable post seems to have fled the premises...

[northernlights]

117. WAAAAAHHHH!!!!! Those awful TERRORISTS took down a website. WAAAAHHH!!!!!

:scared: :scared: :scared: I'm shaking in my boots. :cry: :cry: :cry:


Seriously? FUCK Mastercard. They want to VIOLATE MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH?!?!?! I hope one of their employees grows a pair and leaks *their* deepest and darkest unethical, criminal secrets. :grr:

[underseasurveyor]

123. oh don't be such a killjoy

Sit back, watch, enjoy and learn. Gone are the days of storming the castle with torches and pitchforks. But this is basically the same thing.

[defendandprotect]

141. The true "terrorists" are the US government ....

and that's according to the United Nations!!

"US is a terrorist nation" according to the UN --

and everything I've seen of US history argues for that!!

SHAME!

[marmar]

142. One man's cyberterrorist is another man's cyberliberator.

nt

[texastoast]

143. Your tagline reminds me of the Republicans in my neighborhood

We saw the same bumper stickers when Clinton was elected in '92. Don't blame me - I voted for Bush.

To which my husband responded by putting a sticker on his car that said, "Bush lost. Get over it."

I love free speech.

:P

[RoccoR5955]

169. Cyberterrorists my ass!

They didn't kill anyone, just made it harder for the ultra rich to steal more money from working people.

[lies and propaganda]

187. bwhahaha. 4chan would be so proud.

Going after the most CoCor of companies and they are cyber terrorists?N LAUGHABLE AT BEST

[rhett o rick]

189. Yeah, go cyberterrorists. Fuck the man. nm

[NeoConsSuck]

196. And I'm sure

you felt the same way when that right wing hacker took down Wikileaks. Screw you! That's the nicest thing I can say without this post getting deleted.

[Norrin Radd]

208. Oh noes! How did MasterCard ever survive

before there was a WWW?!

[ProudDad]

234. Nope...

Here's where the world's worst "terrorists" reside...



and here;



and here;

[trud]

255. one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter

I'm sure the Brits would have called the colonials terrorists (no red uniforms! hiding behind trees!) if that propaganda-speak existed then.

[Demeter]

5. I Think the Masters of the Universe Are Getting a Whupping and a Lesson

It cannot stop here, though. It must be pursued to its logical conclusion...which is no more masters of the universe. Geeks Rule!

[ipaint]

14. Yes, the first step is to punch the bully in the face in front of a crowd.

Broadcast their weaknesses and keep hammering away on every single one of them.

It's the principled thing to do. No phony compromises.

[RoccoR5955]

175. GEEKS RULE, Mastercard drools!!!!! n/t

[JesterCS]

6. just tried it... still cant connect lol n/t

[safeinOhio]

28. 8:09 am, still down. n/t

[tavalon]

7. Actions have consequences

I'm glad.

[BenzoDia]

9. So, does that the costs of any loss of business for MC gets passed down to the customer?

Meaning us?

[Le Taz Hot]

11. Not if we don't use MC.

[tomm2thumbs]

13. +1 (add 'reap what you sow' comment here')

[MattSh]

12. I'd be more worried...

about when the cost of the extended tax cuts gets passed down to you.

Priorities, man...

[mbperrin]

24. Costs cannot be passed along in a market system unless the seller

is already charging less than market price. Any attempt to raise prices beyond market equilibrium will result in loss of business.

The old phony "if we raise taxes on business, they'll just pass it on to us" argument has the same defect.

If a business cannot make a profit at market price, they will go out of business. As they should. It means others are better at doing what they do.

[safeinOhio]

29. Thanks mb you

are now one of my economic expert. Really, thanks.

[pnwmom]

78. In this economy, lots of M.C. customers are having trouble with credit

and would have difficulty getting another better card if the rates went up.

[mbperrin]

88. I train my students to shun credit except in the most dire circumstance.

Those who use cash and who have a systematic plan to save get much more mileage from their money.

[BenzoDia]

94. Correct, not every consumer can command great rates from credit card companies.

[caseymoz]

113. We got into this economic mess due to overuse of credit.

Which covered for the lack of any rise in wages over the last 30 years. Mastercard already has all our money.

If customers are having trouble, it's due to mastercard and the consumer credit industry in general. We're not going to get out of this economic mess on credit.

[girl gone mad]

174. Which might be the best outcome for their personal finances.

Another point for Anonymous.

[Art_from_Ark]

243. Underselling the competition does not necessarily equate

with being better at the business. Some business can have an unfair advantage, such as exchange rates that work to their advantage. Or an unlimited supply of workers who are willing to work for subsistence wages or even less. Or producing inferior goods that fall apart right after the guarantee expires, but which attract purchasers nonetheless because they are less expensive than better-made products.

[14thColony]

26. Small price to pay for some righteous payback. nt

[No Elephants]

43. Thanks to our lawmakers of both parties, almost everything gets passed down to us.

Like the cost of providing Afghanis with boy sex slaves.

Me, I'd rather pay for this. Besides, I don't go to jail for not using my mastercard. Do you? Will if I don't pay taxes to support the much more massive costs of war and other crap I hate.

[Lucky 13]

79. No worries. I'll pay for it with my tax cut.

[caseymoz]

110. I don't use them.

Maybe instead of worrying about the cost, you should be avoiding them. Then they won't pass it down to the customer.

[John Q. Citizen]

156. i hope so. until facisim costs us money many of us just ignore it.

[madmax]

250. Think of it this way

it's less than the cost of 2 wars which will be passed onto you, your children and grandchildren. It's the gift that will keep on giving.

[OKNancy]

15. The consequences of this hurt people

I realize that a lot here love the anarchy brought on by all the attacks. It's just like the recent "Bush tax cut" extension.
To heck with the unemployed, or the middle class. Same thing here. How about the couple on Social Security who buy their groceries
with a MasterCard. They get to the check out... " oh sorry.. you can't use that"

[lunatica]

18. Sorry, but this is like those who say if you're going to be raped then

you should just relax and enjoy it.

By the way, people on Social Security have very limited use of any Mastercard, because Mastercard has very little use for them.

[GliderGuider]

32. MC payments are completely unaffected by this!!!

It was an attack on their web site, not on their processing center. The most this should do is prevent people from viewing their statements on-line. People can still use credit cards just like they did before Al Gore invented the Internet.

[No Elephants]

44. False equivalence and false dichotomy.

[sudopod]

54. Anarchy anarchy anarchy

the 1920s called, they want their fear-mongering back.

[Wednesdays]

114. So, what's your answer? Keep the status quo?

:shrug:

[tcaudilllg]

157. Bottom line is

there is no excuse for not getting up in arms about this grand-scale assault on free speech.

[Webster Green]

203. They can still use their cards.

Not to worry.

[Shining Jack]

16. Boohoo I'm crying here, so sad for all those crooks.

Speaking of crooks, did BP transferred some money to that $20 Billion fund that is supposed to help people and cleanup a little BTW?

[MaineDem]

20. This isn't funny and it's not good. n/t

[Nihil]

36. Wrong on both counts - good going! (n/t)

:eyes:

[TBF]

69. Nope, not funny, I'd use the word hilarious. Also Karma. nt

[Lucky 13]

80. because....?

[caseymoz]

115. You're right. The words hilarious and marvelous come to mind. nt

[BenzoDia]

21. Does DU take donations via Master Card?

[Le Taz Hot]

23. The WEBSITE is shut down.

It does not preclude anyone from charging/making payments to their MC --all of that is fully operational.

[BenzoDia]

25. Added costs to MC's operations will make their way down to the customer

aka donors.

[Le Taz Hot]

27. Ah, but that's not what your post asked.

You asked if DU accepted donations via MasterCard. That indicated to me that you were under the impression that MC's actual operations would be affected. I simply corrected you.

You speak of added costs but those added costs would be demanded by the banks that MC represent and since the banks aren't being targeted, why would the banks seek to recover losses that they did not incur? Now, if you were unaware of the actual role MC plays (merely a conduit to the banks), I can understand your second misinterpretation.

[bitchkitty]

38. Get a grip.

If you're so upset, send them a sympathy card.

[BenzoDia]

93. I'm concerned about us, not a private business.

[caseymoz]

116. See post 88

And it's still the right thing, and MC, PayPal and the entire finance industry have it coming.

[rpannier]

257. Then don't use your card nt

[Lucky 13]

81. As I said before... I'm happy to pay for those costs via my tax cut!

[Sapphireprick]

103. Then our Government should regulate business so it won't pass costs down to the innocent

Deal?

[texastoast]

151. Not if we don't use MasterCard

And do like we did in the good old days and save THEN spend.

You know, like John Kerry suggested in 2004--"Pay as you go." An original American point of pride was to be debt-free. Gone with the wind.

[Liberalynn]

22. glad I payed my bill last week

[Kali]

31. pretty interesting the people in this thread feeling sorry for MC

and the deep concern that they might pass some imaginary cost onto customers

like websites don't crash, or banks don't fuck customers over EVERY SINGLE DAY anyway

[Nihil]

37. Yeah ...

> pretty interesting the people in this thread feeling sorry for MC

... ain't *that* the f*cking truth ...

:grr:

[kenfrequed]

140. the sympathy is suspicious

And I suspect it is the usual band responsible for most of it.

[TheWatcher]

185. I notice they've been reduced to very weak one-liners and low-brow Propagandist rhetoric.

It's nice to see the message controllers and gatekeepers so nervous and annoyed that they can't keep the rabble in check and focused on their desired perception.

[chervilant]

260. Interesting...

doesn't begin to cover it, Kali. Many among us can be compared to proverbial battered spouses, who tend to identify with their abusers to a pathological extent. Escape is difficult, survivors of relationship violence leave an average of seven times before they physically escape their abusers ('mental' and 'emotional' escape generally take much longer).

All of us here in the US have been raised in 'capitalism,' with a heavy dose of consumerism deeply embedded by relentless propaganda beamed daily into our psyches by the ubiquitous magic box. Think of the inevitable collective cognitive dissonance commensurate with acknowledging that capitalism is a profoundly damaging economic behavior--with its upper echelons infested by sociopaths and hedonistic narcissists.

If we can help the hoi polloi understand that self-awareness is cathartic and empowering, perhaps we have a snowball's chance. I'm not holding my breath...

[Scruffy1]

33. Finally some good news!

People are starting to come out of their lrthargy and fighting back.

[GodlessBiker]

34. k&r

[Sabriel]

39. Cue the "for everything else, there's Mastercard" parodies

I'm looking forward to them.

And I'm looking forward to PayPal pay(pal)ing for its refusal to process donations.

Wikileaks itself has done nothing illegal. If anyone has seen or heard of indictments or subpoenas hitting Wikileaks, feel free to let me know.

This is government pressure on business, pure and simple. And if they're going to cave on that, they should expect some blowback, in whatever form it takes.

[cbdo2007]

40. Hooray for illegal activity!!!!

DU has turned into a twisted place where Illegal activity is now being cheered?

[Systematic Chaos]

47. Fuckin' A!

:woohoo:

[madmax]

251. I'll join you

:applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[frylock]

59. like drones bombing pakistan?

what level of illegal activity do you deem acceptable?

[davidthegnome]

217. Amen

Thank you for saying that.

[GliderGuider]

67. Context is king.

Blocking sidewalks during protest marches is illegal too...

At what point did we give up the right to act on our own behalf?

[TBF]

71. This is what you call cosmic justice. And yes, there are "laws" that should be challenged. nt

[Lucky 13]

83. I suppose you'd prefer it be a place where we cheered

truth tellers being jailed
corporations running amuk
politicians selling us out
???

[cbdo2007]

86. Illegal activity is no excuse for other illegal activity.

Hopefully the hackers who took down Mastercard will see their own days in court as well.

[TheWatcher]

181. But it's OK for War Criminals to Go Free.

Have to keep "Moving Forward".

Render Unto Me A Fucking Break.

[cbdo2007]

266. Who said it was ok for war criminals to go free??

I didn't.

Don't know what that has to do with this though. Like I said, just because Bush & Cheney haven't been convicted of their war crimes does NOT make all other illegal activity ok.

[TheWatcher]

269. Delete.

Wrong place.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

112. OF COURSE!

After all, we're LEFTISTS, and leftists are EEEEVVVVIIILLLLLL!



We don't even WASH OUR HANDS!

[TygrBright]

131. It's called "civil disobedience." And yes, thank god, DU is a place...

...where civil disobedience targeted at restoring Constitutional government and holding our elected officials accountable for the rule of law and the consequences of their greed and self-interest and corruption are, indeed, cheered.

helpfully,
Bright

[John Kerry VonErich]

166. This is revenge, not justice

civil disobedience deals with justice.

[TygrBright]

176. So being complicit in manipulating the courts to harrass someone has nothing to do with justice, eh?

Dang, I didn't know that. Thanks!

credulously,
Bright

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[Catherina]

42. Good. I cheer them on. n/t

[No Elephants]

45. Priceless!

[tekisui]

199. Well played.

[Crowman1979]

48. Hack into every credit card company! So that way everyone will get a nice $0 balance.

:evilgrin:

[butterfly77]

61. or add a few...

$$$$$$$ to our bank accounts..or clear all student loans.

[Crowman1979]

62. +1

[Lucky 13]

84. Ahh! The Fight Club idea... hacker style!

[OnyxCollie]

146. "Trust me. Everything's going to be fine."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxYikbiB0nY

[Demstud]

165. lol, I wish

[thisMike]

49. What Is Illegal ?

What is illegal about a bunch of Mastercard fans going to the web site of their favorite credit card over and over and over. The Master should be thrilled that people like his card so much they are willing to visit his web site thousands of times per second...

[mbperrin]

55. Right! It looks like MC is negligent because they failed to realize how

effective their advertising would be! Shame on them for that!









Very nice post. Thanks!

[GliderGuider]

68. Nice shot!

:rofl:

[d_b]

89. lolo

fuck

[TygrBright]

132. Yep. I tellya, I've been trying to sign on to Master's site for nearly an hour now...

...and I'm getting SOOooooo frustrated that I don't have the opportunity to bathe in the fabulous corporatespeak and admire their hi-def images of happy people going deeper into debt.

I'm having withdrawal symptoms.

Really!

ironically,
Bright

[goforit]

50. WOW......Karma!!!!

[OnyxCollie]

162. KARMA

[Jefferson23]

241. ROFL, perfection! n/t

[Jefferson23]

51. Ha ha..excellent! n/t

[Dappleganger]

52. Righteous.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

56. Good.

Fuck those sons of bitches.

[AsahinaKimi]

57. I wish they would

go after the REPUBLICAN PARTY next... AND FOX NEWS!!

[AmandaMae]

58. haha, awesome. This is getting good.

[AllyCat]

60. Well, what they have done is illegal, but then so is what is happening to Assange

I'm not surprised. Can't condone it, but not at all surprised.

[tcaudilllg]

161. Two wrongs don't make a right, but...

all is fair in love and war.

[fascisthunter]

64. GOOD!

[sirthomas66]

73. Most excellent!

[blackspade]

74. Does this mean that MC will loose it's .....

DNS address like Wikileaks did for exceeding the network bandwidth?
I'm guessing not.
Punishment is only for the little guy....

[creeksneakers2]

77. A leaker is heroic

when he exposes a great betrayal of trust by those in power who are allowed to keep secrets. Where is the great betrayal of trust Assange has exposed? Something like some diplomat calling Angela Merkel a ho? I haven't seen anything exposed that's worth the price.

Now Assange is threatening to expose persons who would be killed for their cooperation with our country. Assange is a villain now, not a hero. He deserved to be cut off by Master Card. These hackers are on the wrong side.

[Lucky 13]

87. "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

Truth has no agenda. It just is.

[Capitalocracy]

96. If you haven't seen anything of value, you haven't been looking.

Numerous crimes and acts of state terrorism have been exposed by Wikileaks. Sure, we really knew about a lot of them beforehand, but now they are proven beyond plausible deniability, beyond the shadow of a doubt from the source. It's like a confession.

And the fact that so much information is classified that, as you say, is worthless, just proves that the U.S. government is keeping too many secrets, which is an important revelation in and of itself.

[Nihil]

97. "Assange is a villain now, not a hero." *Yawn*

You keep catapulting that propaganda like a good little corporate brown-nose.

:eyes:

[Lucky 13]

90. 12:21EST - Mastercard.com is still down. nt

[qb]

92. Goddammit! I can't get mastercard.com to load...

:rofl:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

118. Even the DNS lookup took forever here

Now it's at "Connecting to www.mastercard.com..." and it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.

[truth2power]

95. Good! I hope they ALL go down. ...

I'm sick of the fascism. Sick of the criminal enterprise we call a government. There must be something catastrophically damaging to the criminals, in those documents, that requires such an extreme reaction. What could it be? Horrific beyond imagining, probably. They're terrified.

The monsters have killed all our heros. Julian Assange sits in jail, while Dick Cheney, the evil, soulless murderer of millions, plugs himself into the wall every night and arises every morning.

The Dick looks (fittingly) like a wraith these days. But, mark my words, with the advances in medical technology he'll ultimately be nothing but a cyborg, but he'll live to be 100.

Where is the justice?

[sofa king]

98. Somewhere, David Brin is holding his breath.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_%28novel%29

In his Melvillian speculative fiction novel, Earth, written in 1990, David Brin managed to nail a couple of predictions (like spam and breaking levees) and has several others outstanding, including the Helvetian War, which if I recall correctly involves a series of cyber attacks on Swiss banks....

But he goes a little bit farther than that. In the novel, there are

"Nuclear attacks on Switzerland, resulting in the formation of the Swiss Navy: the entire population flees the rubble of their country aboard a fleet of merchant vessels and adopts a migrant maritime lifestyle. This fleet becomes known as the Swiss Navy.

http://earthbydavidbrin.pbworks.com/w/page/15607646/HelvetianWar

Yikes! Here's hoping that one doesn't go down.

[jwirr]

99. While they are at it could they please delete my bills?

[greyghost]

130. Delete ALL bills!

[John Kerry VonErich]

171. and if you see 16 numbers, a m/y date,

and a 3 number security code, then post it online


:sarcasm:


That's what people (incuding me) fear.

[robinlynne]

100. cool!

[Sapphireprick]

101. Mastercard makes lots of money out of us ordinary guys

Let them lose a bit.

[Starry Messenger]

106. Bwah!

[Cali_Democrat]

108. I have a close friend that works for Mastercard

I hope they don't cut off Mastercard's revenue to the point where they go out of business.

Thanks a bunch, Julian :(

[caseymoz]

119. No, I doubt that would happen.

Though I think it would be great if it got close, more than likely MC would just change its name and the connections and assets of that corporation will remain.

We need different relationships to these companies.

[tcaudilllg]

163. So he loses his job.

Maybe he gets a new job with the company that succeeds the Big 3 Credit?

[Cali_Democrat]

247. ....

:eyes:

[Turborama]

111. Lead story on BBC World at the moment: Anonymous Mastercard attack 'hits payments'

Web attacks on the Mastercard site have disrupted payments, the BBC has learnt.

The site is among several targeted by the Anonymous group of hackers, who have pledged to pursue firms that have withdrawn services from Wikileaks.

Mastercard, which stopped processing payments to the whistle-blowing site, said the attack had had "no impact" on people's ability to use their cards.

But the BBC has been contacted by a payment firm that said its customers had "a complete loss of service".

More: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11935539

[caseymoz]

121. Wow! If true, this is major.

It means hackers are hitting their bottom line and they've probably already lost much more than the business they had with WikiLeaks.

And, hold on, we might feel it in the wider economy.

It's called class warfare, or at least a class skirmish.

[GodlessBiker]

134. Did Mastercard stop doing business with the NY Times? Fucking hypocrites!!

[caseymoz]

147. Apparently, the newest development, our government told them

. . . to stop doing business with WikiLeaks but not with the NY Times. PayPal has just admitted that the state department told them WikiLeaks was breaking the law it it would be good for their business to drop WL.

And they didn't anything like this with the NY Times-Pravda, because the NY Times-Pravda asked the government what they could or couldn't publish about it.

So, it turns out, you're tax money was at work cutting off WikiLeaks.

[GodlessBiker]

155. Thanks for that update. Fuck them!

[EFerrari]

167. Exactly! The government will not go after Corporate McPravda

because then who will sell their wars.

[DeadEyeDyck]

211. Seems these institutions were pretty vulnerable all along.

If they were hacked today, maybe they have been getting hacked all along and all your (our) personal data is being compromised.

Will this result in the government declaring martial internet law?

[caseymoz]

215. A lot of things can happen.

Of course the government could declare real martial law. If we're afraid of supporting free speech because the government might do that, then it would be accurate to say they don't have to declare martial law: they've had the citizens declare martial law for them.

This isn't hacking in terms of mining for information, this is hacking to obstruct commerce.

Unfortunately, the Internet was always meant for sharing information. It's never been good at protecting it. Yes, all that could be compromised already. It's why you should always watch your bank and credit card accounts very closely.

What's notable about this is that it might radicalize hackers throughout the world and give them something to rally to. Now that they're rallied and energized they'll look for other causes after this one is resolved. So, whereas before you had a large number of skilled, possibly unemployed, mischievous anarchist throughout the world who were really apolitical, you've shaped them into a web insurgency that's not going away now that they've tasted having a real cause.

So, the US and these companies have created an enemy that isn't going away.

[thereismore]

182. Now the hackers are in trouble. You don't touch the corporate bottom line and skate. nt

[caseymoz]

194. I don't think they are expecting to skate.

Otherwise they probably would have done something like this without the WikiLeaks incident. So, in other words, they'd now flip the bird in your smug, smart face and would go to prison knowing it was worth it.

And then again, they might escape, and still flip the bird in your smug, smart face.

As they say, the bee that stings knows its going to die, and painfully.

[chervilant]

261. Would

that more of us could recognize this as one of the more effective battles in the hoi polloi's fledgling push back (nee war) against the Corporate Megalomaniacs.

[thelordofhell]

120. Project Mayhem is proceeding according to plan

Tyler Durden will be pleased

[caseymoz]

122. Except it's not a plan of an insane hallucination.

This has sprung directly from our flawed, sick, system.

[thelordofhell]

126. Now I want you to go pick a fight with a complete stranger

and lose

[caseymoz]

133. That's not as easy as it sounds. nt

[Love Bug]

125. "Instant karma's gonna get you...

... gonna knock you right on your head"

First words to come to my mind upon reading the thread title. I'm not laughing about this, not at all, because we are seeing played out before us a war between two factions: governments and corporate interests (which seems to be the same thing nowadays) who seek to control the internet and those who wish to see it remain 'of the people.'

Setting aside the issue of whether Wikileaks was right or wrong to release government files, I find this aspect of the entire thing very disturbing. My concern is that someday some site, out of pure anarchy and in the interest of unfettered freedom on the internet, is going to go too far and spoil things for the rest of us. I'd sure hate for my grandsons to look back at the past 15 years or so as the "good old days of internet freedom."

Which faction will ultimately win? Are you kidding? It sure ain't gonna be us.

[Quasimodem]

205. Althoug your concern isn't groundless

The corporate shills in government were already gearing up to take over the Internet and turn it into another 'Product' which could controlled by its 'owners.' If nothing else, at least this way it goes down fighting.

And maybe the geeks are better at this than you imagine. The government's goons will have to fight them on the geeks' home turf.

[greyghost]

129. Take them down...

take them all down!

I LOVE IT!

[katty]

135. go team!

[L. Coyote]

137. They will end up in jail.

As well they should!

[caseymoz]

148. And more than likely almost all of them know this

And they'd say, "Fuck you, too."

To cite an analogy, if you get a bee angry enough at you and it stings you, it probably knows very well it's going to die, or it would have stung something long before that. You might try to laugh as it dies, but you're the one who lives with the pain.

[tcaudilllg]

158. What's that, Wile E. Coyote?

Oh look out! That road runner is right behind you!

[TheWatcher]

184. YAY For The Establishment! YAY For The Status Quo! YAY For War Criminals, Tyrants, and Fascists!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JLkUl4Zn0tI/TEcKhMKNXUI/AAAAAAAAAy8/CbcJiOzASUk/s400/Boot+Licker+1.jpg

[L. Coyote]

219. What about the hackers that shut dowm my academic domain?

Do you support cyber-attacks on science sites too? You can't have it both ways. What if hackers take down DU?

[girl gone mad]

198. New to the internets?

No, they won't go to jail.

[texastoast]

145. I just love this.

Nerd wars.

[Taverner]

149. Oh, but Assange maybe kinda but not verified coulda raped someone, so we have to hate wikileaks now

[KansDem]

153. Makes me wonder if this was the plan all along...

WikiLeaks has plans to release extremely embarrassing info if Assange is harmed (or "disappeared").

Now I wonder if this kind of response was planned in case WL had its operations disrupted by the "Big Boys."

It seems to be happening just too quickly and efficiently to be just a "knee-jerk" reaction to the events of the last couple of days.

[tcaudilllg]

159. Probably.

But strength in numbers. If it's just a few people, they can be tracked down. But if it's 50? or a hundred? lol good luck with that.

[ooglymoogly]

154. The class warfare; always there but slowly picking up steam for the last decade

is reaching a boil as the rich greedily over reach and reach ever more devastating extremes; starving the underclasses for the last buck.

This battle of the masses against tyranny has few options to win even the smallest battle.

With the entire government, the judiciary, the constabulary, the "good Germans" and the fourth estate in the pockets of the rich. What do the masses have?....Masses.

And a weapon so powerful it could bring this oligarchy down? Truth and its exposure; and its slingshot to launch that weapon to kill the Goliath; the wheel we are suffering under?....the internet with its ability to unite the masses.

And that is what this story is all about and why the maniacal effort to stop Julian at any and all cost, grossly criminal if need be.

[tcaudilllg]

160. It could happen to any of us.

The powers that be have shown that they will dynamically reframe interpretations of the law to suit their purposes. We choose between attack, or slavery.

[Raksha]

164. Wonderful news! Robin Hood rides again!

That was my first thought when I read the headline.
:kick:

[RoccoR5955]

177. I would blame Mastercard, for not having proper security

There are ways for dealing with this kind of attack. just google ddos attack defense, and you can find out how.

[KillCapitalism]

178. Excellent!!!

I fully support Assange & Co.'s war on capitalism, oligarchy, and plutocracy.

[sabrina 1]

179. Yay!! Wikileaks has troops

around the world. So they wanted to fight a war on an award-winning News Organization?

The people of the world are sick to death of these totalitarian governments of which ours appears to be the worst and the most powerful.

:applause: :applause:

[BEZERKO]

180. You know,

It's time for the little people around to unite to fight against the world bank and the imf dictating policy around the world.

[alp227]

183. the site's back up now...this is old news now n/t

[cliss]

188. The executives at Master Card right now,

just imagine how panicky they must be. Caught between a rock & a hard place.

Do as the State Department tells them.....and assure their own demise. Just imagine, December is probably their most profitable month with Xmas shopping. I believe the hackers intend to keep on...keep on... until Master Card waves the white flag.

There is absolutely NOTHING more powerful than the loss of money.

[IamK]

200. more like take a long lunch then fire the IT people in India....

[femrap]

192. Sounds fair to me....

I thought money had 'freedom of speech.' Or is that just for corporations???

Us serfs should be able to give our pittance to whomever we want......can we go to see The Supremes on this?

[Violet_Crumble]

193. Just give me a second here to drum up some sympathy for MC...

OMG! Those bastards! How dare they do anything to hurt poor, innocent Mastercard!!!! Let's all donate and help this underdog recover! ;)

[Blaze Diem]

195. Mr Assange I wish you safe passage on your treacherous path..

...rest assured, the troops that walk hand in hand with you increase in numbers every day this battle goes on.

Thank you, and having been cried out in generations before, 'Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose,,,,You're nothing if you ain't Free'.
Mr Assange you 'get this', on a massive global scale.

Those who led the charge of this Corporate New World Order were so blinded by greed, they just never saw this coming.
God Bless

[siligut]

197. I loved reading this

Some good news for a change.

[Generic Other]

201. what goes around comes around

and karma has a way of coming around in an ugly fashion. wonder what it costs them to have their site down during the holiday buying seaSON?

[davidinalameda]

202. Mastercard is a private company

and can do what it wants business wise as long as it's legal

I don't see it breaking any laws in cutting off services to Wikileaks

[Creative]

204. I have noticed that some people have no idea what the word "private" means.

[davidinalameda]

221. and pray tell o superior one

what does it mean

[mbperrin]

259. It certainly does not refer to a company that is publicly traded.

http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/ma.html

[Creative]

268. I believe this pretty much sums it up...

Modern property rights are based on conceptions of owners and possession as belonging to legal persons, even if the legal person is not a natural person. In most countries, corporations, for example, have legal rights similar to those of citizens.

In other words Master Card has the right to deal (or not deal) with whomever they choose.

[LeftofU]

207. Site works for me.

This and the visa site work just fine.

[SylviaD]

209. I don't support this at all.

I don't support anarchy at all. Also, Assange is a misogynist pig.

[davidinalameda]

222. +1

:toast:

[chervilant]

262. War

is hell, no matter where or how it's fought. It's discomfiting, and most of us DO react with fear. I encourage you to keep a stiff upper lip, and decide your allegiance quickly.

And, this is not about Assange. Wikileaks is just one of a myriad of fronts in this, the hoi polloi's push back (nee war) against the Corporate Megalomaniacs. Personally, I think it's about time we, the hoi polloi, say: "NO MORE!"

Here's a big clue: the Corporate Megs DO NOT HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART.

[texastoast]

265. Sometimes you just don't want to

be screwed with no kiss.

There are a bunch of us who are at that point. Assange is as big a hero as Daniel Ellsberg, Sam Adams, and Patrick Henry. Sometimes you just have to stand up for what is right, and often so doing is a little painful at first, but results in lives saved and lives improved, lives other than the top 2 percent.

http://www.observer.com/2010/pentagon-papers-daniel-ellsberg-says-he-suffered-same-attacks-wikileaks-and-assange


Do post links about the misogyny.

[crim son]

210. I love it.

I hear the arguments that this is extreme but dammit, extreme is the only thing that gets anybody's attention. I have a mastercard and if I am inconvenienced for a week to make a point, so be it!

[gmiami]

212. :)

I love it!!!

[SoapBox]

216. Hilarious! And, like the saying goes...Pay back can be a bitch!!

[davidthegnome]

218. Finally!

Let this be the beginning. The truth has been shunned, ignored - and spat upon for far too long. If this is what it takes to get some attention, let it spread like wildfire.

[Anakin Skywalker]

226. Ha ha ha ha ha!

[jakefrep]

227. How is this a good thing?

:shrug:

[davidwparker]

228. HuffPo has them taking down Visa as well. Good. n/t

[crazyjoe]

229. cool, as about as effective as an internet petition :-)

that will teach them....hahahah

[davidthegnome]

230. I think this is more symbolic

Than an attempt to truly punish the wicked. It is demonstrating contempt for those who would deny the public their right to accurate information regarding the actions of it's government. It is sort of saying "Assange may be in prison, but this is far from over." In cases like this, the symbolic meaning demonstrated here is important. It gives people an example, it gives a little hope to those of us who support what Assange is doing. The financial and military powers of the world are not omnipotent or invincible. No one should be above the law or above the truth. If Assange is one of the very few telling it, I will not do other than support him.

Nothing wrong with a little symbolism now and then, it's an important part in all great movements - which I believe this is quickly becoming.

[DesertDiamond]

231. Holy effing sheit!!! I feel like I'm watching a heroic movie! This is a part where I

jump out of my seat and cheer!

[madmax]

233. Me too! I'm rooting for Julian and the hackers.

These are the good guys. Yes, there are bad hackers out to do harm but, I think these guys are doing a service that the fucking media forgot was their job. Hack away guys!

Pssst but, don't hack me.

[Kermitt Gribble]

232. Awesome!! n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

235. at least there are some people who know how to fight back

[Goldstein1984]

237. Civil disobedience, and...

I hope it's just the beginning.

Whet I'm really hoping is that the U.S. government and it's European toadies push Wikileaks and PayBack far enough that they dump the entire package of unredacted documents.

It could change everything.

[mackerel]

244. Is anyone thinking of that bi-sexual nutter

Salander?

Make for a great novel.

[krispos42]

245. Heh, good. Currency shouldn't have political opinions. n/t

[GreenTea]

248. LOVE IT!

[Mudoria]

264. According to CNN the pricks decided to take down Amazon

but after an hour they decided to give up because they couldn't handle it.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/09/technology/amazon_wikileaks_attack/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin