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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:21 PM
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Brown Surges Against Whitman in California Governor Race
Source: Reuters

Brown surges against Whitman in California governor race

By Jill Serjeant
LOS ANGELES | Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:07 pm EDT
(Reuters) - Democrat Jerry Brown has more than doubled his lead over Republican rival Meg Whitman in the California governor's race, gaining support from Latino voters after an illegal immigration furor over the former eBay chief's ex-housekeeper.

A Los Angeles Times/USC poll on Sunday gave Brown, the state's attorney general who first served as California governor from 1975 to 1983, a 13 point lead over Whitman. Brown has 52 percent support, compared to 39 percent for Whitman.

In the same poll a month ago, Brown had a five point overall lead over Whitman. Sunday's survey showed he now has a 36 percentage point lead over Whitman among Latino voters, up from 19 percent in September. Latinos make up one fifth of the California electorate and are seen as pivotal in deciding the governor's race.

The poll also found that with two weeks to go before the November 2 elections, three-term U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer maintains an eight point lead over first-time Republican challenger Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard CEO.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69N0XP20101024
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:23 PM
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1. Better not let Christine O'Donnel know about the "surge" (n/t)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:25 PM
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2. Well, at least Whitman helped out the California economy by sinking tens of millions
of her own money into the states economy. :)
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jonthebru Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:05 PM
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19. Oh, yeah, the billboard and electronic media part of the economy.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:21 PM
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22. Someone had to make and them put them up
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 06:22 PM by rpannier
They had to pay someone to put up those billboards and stuff
She probably looked for the cheapest labor she could find -- Outsourced??
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:31 PM
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31. Outsourced, even her bus has Tennessee plates n/t
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 11:14 PM
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37. Someone should have made a commercial of her getting on her bus and driving away
The camera focusing on the license plate.
No speaking, no comments
Just the words "Tennessee????"
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:55 AM
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48. A lot of tour buses have Tennessee plates.
Saw one on the road in Tampa wednesday. I guess that since Nashville is a recording industry hotspot, a lot of tour companies are also based out of there.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:25 PM
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3. Seriously, it would be much better for Jerry to be Governor
especially if the Dems can get Single-Payer passed again next year.

But you'll still have to hold Jerry's feet to the fire -- he's unpredictable...
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:44 PM
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4. Looks like your $143,000,000 personal trickle down economic
stimulus just hasn't cut it Meg. But hey, you said it "you can't buy elections in California".
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:30 PM
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11. Seen written out, that's a ridiculous amount of money
to sink into a campaign for governor. Makes me wonder if there's not something else up beside being the queen of the state for someone who didn't vote for most of her adult life. It's mind boggling to me.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:46 PM
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16. Totally agree. If this is about
queen of the state status this has to be the most expensive personally funded ego trip in history.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:49 PM
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29. Come on, you KNOW there's something else
She sees this as an investment in her future--if she gets in there and goes all "business friendly" on us, she'll net lucrative board appointments and club memberships, and become even richer than she already is.

At some point, money changes from an item you use to buy things to an item you collect for its own sake. Meg is in the "collecting" point in her life.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:51 AM
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38. Yes, I do. Exactly what, I'm not sure.
Never considered board and club memberships as comparable exchange for that kind of money. Was thinking along the lines of who or what entity really needs her as California governor at all costs.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:42 PM
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52. jmowreader, I agree with you.
Do you remember the words from the song from Chicago,

Ask any of the chickies in my pen
They'll tell you I'm the biggest mother hen
I love 'em all and all of them love me
Because the system works
The system called reciprocity...

Got a little motto
Always sees me through
When you're good to Mama
Mama's good to you.

There's a lot of favors
I'm prepared to do
You do one for Mama
She'll do one for you.

They say that life is tit for tat
And that's the way I live
So, I deserve a lot of tat
For what I've got to give
Don't you know that this hand
Washes that one too
When you're good to Mama
Mama's good to you!

http://paroles.abazada.com/chanson,when-youre-good-to-m...

Meg Whitman wants to become California's Mama hen, the keeper of the keys.

People who strive to become very, very wealthy are driven by the desire for wealth. Unless they go through some spiritual epiphany, they don't change. Meg Whitman is driven. She is now collecting power. You are, in my opinion, very correct.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:04 AM
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47. her overblown sense of entitlement is what it is
the fact that she thought she could buy her way into the governor's position speaks directly to that.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:46 PM
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5. just proves one thing
MONEY cannot buy you love Whitless!

:D :D :D :party: GOVERNOR BROWN 2010!!

:kick:
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:58 PM
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17. Maybe not love...
but if she got herself a set of pink underwear from Sheriff Joe Arpaio like Sarah Palin who knows where she could have taken this?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:51 PM
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6. Whipping Whitman while whistling.
Good on ya, mr brown.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:39 PM
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7. Eat your heart out , NYT.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:40 PM
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8. Is anyone else disturbed that Jerry doesn't have the support of 150% of Latinos?
Talk about voting against your own interests.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:44 PM
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13. Why? There is no group that votes 100% in favor of any party.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 10:01 PM
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36. Yeah.... Log Cabin Republicans. Go figure. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 04:28 AM
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39. I' guessing religion, both evangelical and Catholic, plays a significant role.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:42 PM
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9. 50%+ support? Sweet.
Most of the polls I've seen on RealClearPolitics show that although Brown had slightly less than 50% favor, Brown had a lead of 5 points or more this month. Meanwhile, among independents, according to Public Policy Institute of CA Whitman has a 1-point lead. And Whitman still continues lying in her ads. GO JERRY!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:54 PM
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10. Brown can run some ads asking for votes for ALL democrats running in CA - a tidal wave of votes! nt
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:45 PM
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14. Why isn't
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 05:22 PM by Iliyah
she in jail? Hiring an illegal alien is against the law. Oh wait, she's a repug, they never do anything wrong. Good news about Jerry Brown and Barbara Boxer. I'll wait for Nov. 2nd to vote at my polling place and damn if some retard Tea Bat try to harass me.
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Can of Whoop-ass Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:53 PM
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34. Nancy Reagan
had two Peruvian Maids in the White House the day Saint Ronnie signed that bill.
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:18 AM
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45. Unlike Whitman
At least Nancy had the good sense not to run for office
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:31 PM
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12. Sweet! KnR. n/t
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:08 PM
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15. All that money Whitman, oh well...lol. n/t
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instantkarma Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:59 PM
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18. good news, bad news and propaganda
After going to the source, the L.A. Times...

The Brown-Whitman poll interviewed 1,501 people, a good sample size. The margin of error is 3.2 percent. Also in the poll is the question "Who do you trust more?" in which Brown also leads Whitman, 44-24 percent.

The prop 19 poll cited in the Reuters story also comes from the L.A. Times. However, the sample size is 441 "likely voters," a very small sample. The margin of error with this poll is 4.6 percent (which to me makes it pretty worthless). So according to the error margin it could be anywhere from 55.6-34.4 to 46.4-43.6. That's anywhere between a 2.8-22.2 percent difference.

Reuters doesn't mention the polls were taken at different times, taken with much different sample sizes (Reuters doesn't report those at all) and that they were reported in the L.A. Times in two separate stories. (perhaps they want to give the impression that the questions were part of the same poll)

If you want to see the original story/stories at the source, go to the L.A. Times. Brown-Whitman is on the main page and type "Prop 19" in the search box.

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jonthebru Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:07 PM
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20. Good job.
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ThePatriotHour Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:19 PM
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21. Mid-Term Surprise!
We believe that no one is polling those under 30,
the age group that had more voters than the over 60 crowd
for the first time in American political history.
This video explains it, and will make you laugh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL66LSkDEuI

Enjoy!..............Jeff
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:45 PM
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23. Because she had a primary challenger, Whitman's face has been
on tv for many months. I'm sick of looking at her, and I'm sure I'm not alone. She is trying to buy the governor's seat at a time when the current failed governor is also a repuke with a bunch of money and no prior government experience. I think the people of this state are ready to return a seasoned, experienced former governor and present attorney general to Sacramento rather than take their chances on a woman whose claim to fame is that she was CEO of an enterprise that consists of people selling stuff to each other over the internet. I can't wait for her to lose.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:51 PM
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24. Finally....
...some GOOD news! California voters, don't get complacent. Please go and vote on election day (or sooner). Brown & Boxer, ALL THE WAY!!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:55 PM
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25. There is no accountability in the world of the CEO
No matter how bad you fuck up you are going to walk away from your job with the goldest of golden parachutes.

And most likely, through your network of interlocking corporate directorates, find another high paying CEO gig before you even cash the first dividend check from the stock options you cashed out.

I think this stupid woman lives in some sort of dream world. If she screws up in CA, she can always become the governor of, oh, I dunno, New York?

Managing the government is a hell of a lot harder than being the CEO of some dumbass corporation. In theory anyway, you actually have to produce.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:04 PM
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26. Thank goodness
:-)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:14 PM
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27. Trust Dems will continue the surge to the LEFT we began in '06 ... break thru rw block ..!!
Yes, we have problems with corporate Democrats --

we'll have to come back and deal with them later --

FIRST, deal with knocking out as many Repugs as possible!!

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:14 PM
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28. Money can't buy you love!
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johnnyplankton Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:27 PM
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30. HAPPY! HAPPY! JOY! JOY!
And I'm from Boston.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:35 PM
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32. Thank Dog!
:fistbump:
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:47 PM
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33. And she got her ass kicked out of the Sonoma Farmers' Market.
This past Tuesday, she was in Sonoma in a big green bus with "Jobs are on the way" billboards on the side. They were driving all around town, which is two miles square and has a population of around 9,000. They would park the bus on the street and in front of some pretty influential Rebpublicans' houses.

They had the thing parked in front of Don Sebastiani's house, which is on my block. Don is a real rightie and is also "the" Sebastiani of wine fame.

So I walked on down to the bus to see what was up and, lo and behold, there was the Megster herself. I asked her what in the world she was doing in Sonoma, considering there are probably no more than 1,500 registered voters. "We are touring small towns in our bus and meeting people." I thought that rather strange because there is no in-between here, just hard-core Dems and the Other Guys.

Then, they drive four blocks to the Plaza.

Our Tuesday Markets on our Town Plaza are a really big deal. Hundreds of people show up.

So Meg and her bunch disembark right in front of the Plaza and get out, only to be confronted by Hilda - the director of the market.

You would have had to have been there.

Hilda- 80-something years old farmer's wife, WalMart clothes and a walker.

Meg Whitman, imperiously smug.

Hilda told her to leave because "politicking isn't allowed".

And leave, they did.

Meg Whitman backed down to an old woman with a walker.

I wish I would have had a camera.

The whole thing is in Kathleen Hill's article from 10/22 at www.sonomanews.com .

Do not buy Sebastiani wine.

Sonoman
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:11 PM
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50. "Meg Whitman backed down to an old woman with a walker."
Heh heh.

I wish you'd had a camera on you, too. :toast:
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:07 PM
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35. Yaaay! Hope that's a trend nationwide! Give us More Democrats!
Hoping millions are fed up with the multi-millions of secret-dollars funneled into right wing "genuine grass roots" campaigns to defeat President Obama's push for change and rush to the polls to vote those suckers out.

Hoping the Obama younger voters rush out there too. They can see through the disgusting overt and dangerous propaganda of the professional right. Hope they make a firm stand against it and we all get together to push for more solid progressive change in the years ahead.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 04:37 AM
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40. Democrats' opposition these days: numbingly stupid, insane and/or bloodlessly greedy and selfish.
We HAVE to win.

Surge, Jerry, surge!
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 05:55 AM
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41. Maybe this will help with Prop. 19.
I'm glad Boxer's lead has increased. About a week ago, the MSM "news" was reporting a neck-and-neck race.
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:22 AM
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43. Yeah, I agree, but I'm still apprehensive about that race. A Fiorina victory would be a disaster
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 06:36 AM
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42. Vital race. Go Jerry! I'd love to know how much she's spent. An update. n/t
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:16 AM
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44. She should have kept her cash
Same with Carly. It doesn't look like a good year for free-spending elitist former CEO's, at least in California anyway.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:44 AM
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46. Yeah! The people at work!
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:08 PM
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49. GO BROWN.... GO GREEN..... GO AWAY WHITMAN
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:21 PM
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51. Spend more Whitman...c'mon you can (try harder to) buy this thing...
You're already in for $120 mil....spend it all baby.
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