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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 12:07 AM
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V.A. Agreed to Withholding of Benefits, Documents Say
Source: Bloomberg

The Department of Veterans Affairs agreed in September 2009, without telling six million soldiers and their families, to allow Prudential Financial to withhold lump sum payments of life insurance benefits owed to survivors of service members, according to documents made public through a request under the Freedom of Information Act.

The amendment to Prudential’s contract is the first document to show that department officials sanctioned a practice that has prompted lawmakers and regulators to call for investigations. Since 1999, Prudential has used so-called retained-asset accounts that keep death benefits in its general corporate account, earning investment income for itself, instead of paying out a lump sum immediately.

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Under Prudential’s original 1965 contract with the government and a 2007 revised contract — both of which were released as part of the response to the Freedom of Information Act request — the insurer is required to send lump sum payouts to survivors who request them. The contract covers six million active service members, their families and veterans.

Instead, Prudential sends to survivors so-called checkbooks that are tied to what it calls its Alliance Account. The checkbooks are made up of drafts, or i.o.u.’s, and are not insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. Prudential invests the survivors’ money in its general corporate account.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/14/business/14insure.html?src=twr
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 12:25 AM
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1. We just need to burn the insurance racket in it's current
Edited on Tue Sep-14-10 12:26 AM by cliffordu
iteration right to the ground.. It actually serves no purpose except to fleece the populace
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 12:41 AM
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2. It's gotten to the point that when there's a dispute between a giant insurance or financial
company and members of the general public over an illegal act committed by the company, my initial assumption is that the government will be so afraid of offending the powerful company that it will allow the behavior to continue. Unfortunately, that assumption is usually right. These companies have basically captured the government, and I don't know what can be done about it.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 12:48 AM
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3. A quote from Heinlein's first story "Life-Line" written in 1939..
Interestingly, the quote is about insurance companies..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-Line

There has grown in the minds of certain groups in this country the idea that just because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with guaranteeing such a profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is supported by neither statute or common law. Neither corporations or individuals have the right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 05:48 AM
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4. I'd write a 250K to my bank and be done with them
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:54 AM
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12. It wouldn't surprise me at all
if that check bounced, either.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 06:03 AM
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5. Step One. Find the VA official who approved this and fire his ass. Step two. ..
...Step two. Get the for-profit insurance industry out of the picture, here and in health care.

Insurance used to be about sharing risk. Now the insurance companies just dump the riskier customers on the government and keep the low-risk (read: profitable) ones for themselves. Ridiculous that we put up with this.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:31 AM
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6. Veterans Agency Made Secret Deal Over Benefits
Source: Bloomberg

Veterans Agency Made Secret Deal Over Benefits
By David Evans - Sep 14, 2010 5:54 AM PT

The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs failed to inform 6 million soldiers and their families of an agreement enabling Prudential Financial Inc. to withhold lump-sum payments of life insurance benefits for survivors of fallen service members, according to records made public through a Freedom of Information request.

The amendment to Prudential’s contract is the first document to show how VA officials sanctioned a payment practice that has spurred investigations by lawmakers and regulators. Since 1999, Prudential has used so-called retained-asset accounts, which allow the company to withhold lump sum payments due to survivors and earn investment income on the money for itself.

The Sept. 1, 2009, amendment to Prudential’s contract with the VA ratified another unpublicized deal that had been struck between the insurer and the government 10 years earlier -- one that was never put into writing, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its November issue. This verbal agreement in 1999 provoked concern among top insurance officials of the agency, the documents released in the FOIA request show.

For a decade, until the contract was formally changed, Prudential wasn’t fulfilling its obligations to survivors of fallen service members, says Brendan Bridgeland, an insurance lawyer who runs the non-profit Center for Insurance Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-14/veterans-agency-arranged-secret-deal-with-prudential-over-soldier-benefits.html
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bluescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:31 AM
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7. K&R
Any nation which does not care for its veterans, or the
families of fallen soldiers, forfeits the right to make new
ones.:mad:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:31 AM
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8. How about a class action suit to get all the interest that was paid on those held monies..and pay
it to the beneficiaries?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 04:44 PM
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13. How about people in the military and their famillies getting pissed in Nov?
Or they can quietly let the robbery continue.
Up to them.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:31 AM
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9. Insurance fraud, what a racket.
Even the VA got in on it. I bet if we keep looking, someone got a kick back for "secretly" negotiating the amendment to make the fraud legal.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:31 AM
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10. This is the sickest thing I have seen in many years, and nothing has made
me more angry.

People should be in prison over this fraud.

C'mon, Democrats - you talk the talk about helping veterans, let's see some action.


mark
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 11:31 AM
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11. Privatization works so well.
:sarcasm:
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