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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:31 AM
Original message
Oil rig explodes in Gulf-near Vermillion Bay
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:46 AM by IndianaGreen
Source: CNN and WWLTV

Now breaking on CNN

On a tweet:

Oil rig explosion in Gulf of Mexico off Louisiana has injured dozens of people, CBS affiliate in New Orleans reports.

On edit:

Coast Guard reporting rig incident south of Vermillion Bay

by WWLTV.com

wwltv.com

Posted on September 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Updated today at 10:23 AM


The Coast Guard is responding to a reported rig incident south of Vermillion Bay.

A Coast Guard spokesman said that 13 people were on the rig and that 12 have been accounted for at this time.

Rescue choppers from New Orleans and Houston responded to the scene

U.S. Coast Guard Reports Oil Rig On Fire Some 90 Miles South Of Louisiana

A U.S. Coast Guard spokesman tells CNN that an offshore oil rig, Vermilion Oil Rig 380, owned by Mariner Energy, is on fire, some 90 miles south of Vermilion Bay.

He said there were 13 people aboard the rig. All of them have been accounted for. Twelve of them have been placed in immersion suits.

Eight Coast Guard rescue helicopters have been dispatched to the rig location. In addition, three Coast Guard cutters — Decisive, Manta and Skip Jack — are en route, with four civilian vessels.

According to The Associated Press, "the Coast Guard is responding to an explosion involving an offshore petroleum structure in the Gulf of Mexico."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/09/02/129602743/offshore-oil-rig-on-fire-off-the-coast-of-louisiana-u-s-coast-guard-reports

Read more: http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Coast-Guard-reporting-rig-explosion-south-of-Grand-Isle-102065593.html
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:31 AM
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1. "This is all completely natural." - Rush DraftDodger Limbaugh (R - Propagandist)
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:34 AM by SpiralHawk
"I sincerely doubt that this will in any way impact the $40 million a year in corporate payola that greases my skanky palm for spouting Republicon propaganda - 'drill, baby, drill' -- therefore it is meaningless. To0 bad about you people who have to live on a degraded planet. Smirk."

- Rush DraftDodger Limbaugh (R - Propagandist)
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SugarShack Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:35 AM
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57. Korean sub let out NC seals who blew rig--one story-and demolition--retaliation for sinking that SK
Korean sub let out NC seals who blew rig--one story--2nd--NC Korean seals on supply boat in rig assault and demolition--retaliation for sinking that SK boat which we then followed up with and EMP strike that took out Chinas main oil transmission line

(from a ret. military buddy)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:40 PM
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #57
124. North Koreans with trained seals from North Carolina?
Whaaaaa?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #124
131. these seals were on a supply boat---don't you get it???
:rofl:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #131
229. "I think you've blown a seal"
"Hey, just fix the engine and keep my private life out of it!"
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
113. I'd love to put this fat ass POS on one of the rigs
all by himself, with no way to get off and see how long he stays. He would be so damn scared he would try to swim to shore.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:33 AM
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2. i hear offshore drilling is very safe these days
with the high tech and whatnot.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:07 PM
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102. The devil is in the whatnots
n/t
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
140. I heard that too - about 7 months ago
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
217. Obama: "Oil rigs no longer have spills" -- !!
and his observation since then ....

"The Gulf will bounce back!"
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:34 AM
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3. Who is in charge of that one?
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:36 AM
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8. MSNBC reporting it's Mariner Energy
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:37 AM by SOS
13 workers rescued from the water wearing immersion suits.
One injured.
Rig on fire.

All info per MSNBC at 11:35 AM EDT

http://www.mariner-energy.com/
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:45 PM
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114. "among the largest lease holders on the continental shelf," 90 deepwater blocks, 240 fed leases
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 01:51 PM by wordpix
snip: According to its website, Mariner is among the largest lease holders on the continental shelf with interests in approximately 240 federal leases and more than 30 state blocks, at year-end 2009.

In deepwater, Mariner holds a working interest in more than 90 blocks. The company has participated in more than 35 deepwater projects, operating more than half of them. snip

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/coast_guard_responding_to_rig.html

Let me guess: They have 730 previous serious violations in the National Sacrifice Area.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #114
129. well, well, well - Mariner $1.2 BILLION IN DEBT
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 02:17 PM by wordpix
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/7183306.html

snip: Mariner Energy focuses on oil and gas exploration and production company focused on the Gulf of Mexico. In April, Apache Corp., another independent petroleum company, announced plans to buy Mariner in a cash-and-stock deal valued at $3.9 billion, including the assumption of about $1.2 billion of Mariner's debt. That deal is pending. snip

Keep those safety cuts coming b/c you're in debt up to your eyeballs, corpos! :sarcasm:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #129
218. Because government control is bad and PRIVATIZING natural resources is so great!!
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 12:02 AM by defendandprotect
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #3
25. Don't you mean, "Who is suppose to be in charge of that one?"
With thousands of rigs in the Gulf, it seems we're playing a dangerous, perverted game of "Whack a Mole." No telling which one will pop up next...
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Prospero1 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #3
34. who is in charge?
The free market of course.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #34
111. as usual, it's the multinational oil corpos who don't pay US taxes
my good guess
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
4. Is this the same one?
Coast Guard responding to rig fire Gulf of Mexico; people reported in water
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/coast_guard_responding_to_rig.html
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:34 AM
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5. Dιjΰ Vu
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:34 AM
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6. oh,no...this is getting way out of hand...it reminds me of West Texas
oil fields.saw tons of guys get hurt and killed ... even recently
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26645108/
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
162. The land of men with few fingers
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 04:34 PM by texastoast
Grew up there. They used to come in the grocery store where I worked.

And you know, that land will grow anything once the mesquites are knocked back. It has good, sweet water (or maybe had good water before the oil bidness disregarded a few aquifers as being important).

And it is great big Bush and oil bidness country. You are in the heart of the battlefield. Even with the elevated thyroid cancer rates and ruined water tables there, you better not say one fucking word against the oil bidness. SO glad I don't live there anymore, but Houston is not much better.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:36 AM
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7. Let us hope we have learned some lessons.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #7
17. You mean lets hope we learn lessons this time.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:49 AM by superconnected
I don't think they learned from the last event. I mean other than what they told us - corexit is good - breaks up oil, deep water drilling is safe, and it's the workers fault that oil rigs explode.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #17
167. This is capitalism, fuck the lessons. nm
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #167
175. Okay, yes capitalism does this, but so do socialist and communist nations.
You tell me which government doesn't have an abuse of power by politicians and the rich or now-a-days corporations.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #175
180. My point is that capitalism must be reigned in or kiss Democracy goodby.
I am not sure what your point is.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #180
234. I agree with your point. Capitalism needs to be regulated.
And, politicians need to be regulated. Until we have rules against collusion, and taking big money from anyone, they will not serve the public who put them there's interest. Since we put them there to serve our interest it seems like this should be the first priority of voters. Why it's not is truly baffling.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:03 AM
Response to Reply #175
219. Both capitalism and communism are based on exploitation ... we can do better -- !!
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 12:05 AM by defendandprotect
Or -- as Orwell put it re capitalism and communism . . . "a pox on both their houses!"

We have to move away from these exploitations of nature and anima-life --

and on to a more nature-friendly and socially responsible economic system.

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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
98. Ha, who cares about lessons, it's profits that are important
Ask any oil company and they will set you straight as to the real priorities.

:sarcasm:
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #98
103. That does seem to be the case
I thought BP's initial response was most telling, in that they weren't all that concerned: after all, stuff like this happens all the time. Who knew the media would finally report on it and anyone would care? For the oil industry, a major environmental catastrophe is just another day in the standard working week.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #98
115. profits + tax evasion, that is the important lesson to be learned here
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
220. If we learned anything, we'd have reinstated the ban on off-shore drilling which stood for 26 years!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:37 AM
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9. MSNBC.com reporting one person missing.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:37 AM
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10. NOLA station WDSU reporting that it is reported that a rig owned by
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:39 AM by merh
a Houston corporation, Mariner Energy, has exploded about 60 miles south of Louisiana in Vermillion Bay - Coast Guard is responding - 13 people to have been on the rig and reports say 13 have been accounted for.

Rig is still on fire.

Edited to add: No reports of leaks - the rig not believed to be producing at the time of the explosion.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:40 AM
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14. Are there any gushing wells?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. They are investigating to determine if any leaks or gushers.
Not sure at this time if it was producing at the time of the explosion.

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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #15
43. The reporting for the first few days after Deepwater Horizon exploded
was that the rig was inactive, and no oil was escaping.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #14
29. Don't you mean, "oil spills?"
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bherrera Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #29
52. It may be a simple natural gas explosion
In which case there is no oil spill.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #52
69. Then no matter how big, wait for the media to declare it...
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 11:47 AM by KansDem
...a "natural flatulence."

on edit: the FOX bimbos will say, "The Earth farted!" :blush:...teehee...teehee
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bherrera Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #69
87. I doubt it
This sounds like an industrial accident, but the number of personnel (about a dozen) aboard the structure tells me it was a minor operation, and they did not suffer any deaths. Therefore it is probably a natural gas explosion and fire. I am only a guesser, because I am in Spain, not in the USA.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #87
122. Hola, senor! Your guess is as good as anyone's in the US
Because we learned from the last oil catastrophe that the US government and its agencies, including the Coast Guard kept out independent reporters/scientists and allowed BP to blatantly spin the facts, downright lie and otherwise cover up what was going on.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #10
49. A rig NOT producing -- EXPLODES! Wow, that's some weird shit there.
:wtf:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #49
78. and it is still on fire
another weird shit.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #49
88. Deepwater Horizon was not producing either...
It was an exploration well. Just pointing out...
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #49
116. It's described as a kind of oil refinery ---why it's in the middle of the Gulf says "tax evasion" to
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 01:51 PM by wordpix
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #49
132. now the corp admits it IS a producing rig - some confusion about how deep it is, 350' v. 2500'
http://www.click2houston.com/news/24854694/detail.html

snip:

Houston-based Mariner Energy owns the platform. Spokesman Patrick Cassidy said the fixed petroleum platform is in about 320 feet of water.

"During the last week of August 2010, production from this facility averaged approximately 9.2 million cubic feet of natural gas per day and 1,400 barrels of oil and condensate," the company wrote in a statement. snip:

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/09/another_oil_rig_explosion_in_g.php

snip:

The Department of Homeland Security said the rig was not in the process of producing oil and gas and was in about 2,500 feet of water and owned by Mariner Energy of Houston.

KPRC has different info from the AP/Washington Post stuff above: "Houston-based Mariner Energy spokesman Patrick Cassidy said the platform is in about 320 feet of water and was producing about 1,700 barrels of oil a day." snip

:wtf:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #132
233. Thanks. Amazing how words in the news have so many meanings.
Not producing = producing, but only later when there is a more concerted effort to ferret out the truth.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
83. Maybe all the oil boyz
in Houston need to be in lockdown.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #83
86. ^^ this gets my vote.n/t
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #10
99. Yahoo link says it WAS in production.
Lots of conflicting stories. Who thinks tomorrow we wil be told "It's leaking a little"?

5th line after the photo.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100902/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_rig_explosion
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:37 AM
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11. Oh No, not again...
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:39 AM
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12. Oh crap!
:argh:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #12
97. my words exactly.
just damn.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:39 AM
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13. ..
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:40 AM by mikelgb
numbness setting in
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:46 AM
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16. CNN reports all persons accounted for; no deaths, one injured
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #16
19. That probably the only good news.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #19
36. Yes, but it's also good news that this happened again so close to the last one so it focus's
on the dangers of those rigs.

I'm glad - it's like re-opening the case.

As far as the workers - glad they didn't die, hope they recover.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #19
38. again, according to CNN
the well may not have been producing at the time, so there may not be any risk. But that's just conjecture from the Coast Guard. They say that they have reports that it wasn't operating at the time, and they aren't sure if there's a pollution risk.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #38
142. the well may not have been producing at the time
LIARS! Like they can't determine that before they start "speculating"?
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:48 AM
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18. Calm down, people! It's just a "rig incident."
How many times did they have to pitch euphemisms for "exploded" before they came up with "rig incident?"

mikey_the_rat
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:50 AM
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20. Relax, one guy may be dead but you can bet his co-workers will be company men
and totally support BP in a few weeks even though they were on the rig when this happened!
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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:53 AM
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23. Considering this is not a BP rig that would be very unusual.
:)
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #23
228. Facts? Who needs 'em?
:shrug:
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:52 AM
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21. Rig?
Does anyone know if this is a drilling rig or a production platform?
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #21
27. MSNBC
just said it was not a production rig
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:26 AM
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47. USA today
An oil platform has exploded in the Gulf of Louisiana, injuring at least one person. The Coast Guard tells MSNBC that the platform is still burning, but says it is not a drilling rig.

Update at 12:14 p.m. ET: The New Orleans Tiems-Picayune descrbies the facility, called Vermillion 380, as a "fixed, manned production platform." The newspaper says the platform is not involved in drilling and, unlike the ill-fated BP rig, is not a floating rig, but rather is a fixed platform.

Update at 12:11 p.m. ET: The Coast Guard tells MSNBC that the facility is not a rig, but is a platform that does not do any drilling.

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:52 PM
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120. described as a small oil refinery here
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 01:53 PM by wordpix
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/coast_guard_responding_to_rig.html

snip: Lee Hunt, president of the International Association of Drilling Contractors, said these types of rigs are permanently in place, often with a pipeline or oil and gas and water separation facilities on board.

"It's more like a small offshore refining operation," he said.

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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:52 AM
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22. The BOP should work this time!
The whole thing about the BP spill was that the Blowout Preventor failed. The BOP should work - it is a failsafe.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:20 AM
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44. The BOP at the BP Macondo well was rated at 20,000lbs / sq"
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 11:21 AM by dipsydoodle
whereas the blowout whatever was anything up to 170,000lbs sq". There is nothing in existence within the oil industry which would withstand that level.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:19 PM
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82. I spend my days working with "Ultra High Pressure"
hydraulics. 170,000PSI is mind bogglingly high pressure. I am unaware of anything man-made that approaches those pressures. 46,400PSI is the highest pressure I am familiar with, barely a quarter of that.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:36 PM
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163. The blowout wasn't man made
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 04:38 PM by dipsydoodle
other than the mere act of drilling the well allowed it to happen. If you search you should find that was the pressure known to exist in the field. I assume you meant man made as in manufactured.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:42 AM
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227. I was merely stating that that kind of pressure ...
is incredible, almost beyond the comprehension of the average person. My man-made comment was only to show how the pressures we create and use pale in comparison to the pressures found in the well.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:22 PM
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84. That seems unlikely to me.
I'm no expert but I have been following the engineering discussions. As I understood the initial failure, it wasn't because the BOP failed but rather that it failed to trigger. Am I wrong? Can you provide me with a reference?

Anyway, Here's to hoping this is just a "rig" accident and not another go-round!
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:56 AM
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24. Glenn Beck thinks a flock of geese is a sign, but THIS...nah, nothing to see here. Move along.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:06 AM
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28. It's a clear sign to me that self-regulation is a joke...
What a horrible, horrible situation.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:57 AM
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26. I would very much like to know if it was drilling into the
same oil deposit as the BP well was, in which case all leases in the area should be suspended until engineering catches up to handling the massive amount of methane within that deposit.

At least this time they know how to cap the damned thing.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:12 AM
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30.  The platform is about 200 miles west of BP's blown out Macondo well.
and at very different depths, I would expect.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:13 AM
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33. It is in 2,000 feet of water
a lot deeper than I would had thought since early reports said it was on a bay.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:18 AM
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42. So, it's "only" about a half mile deep, instead of a full mile
It would still be a tough one to cap, if it became a gusher like the BP well.
Fortunately, so far there's no indication of that (*knock wood*).
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:48 PM
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92. Yes, I finally found the map. This is a much shallower well, thanks
so this explosion likely has a different cause.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:16 AM
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40. I read it is in 450ft of water. nt.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:17 AM
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41. "At least this time they know how to cap the damned thing."
You seem to be assuming these people are capable of actually LEARNING from their mistakes?

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:26 AM
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48. Ultimately, drilling a relief well still takes several months in any scenario.
That's what had to be done in the end-game for Deepwater Horizon. All the other attempts BP did ultimately failed because not only was the BOP destroyed, but some of the pipework below the BOP and probably even below the surface of the ocean floor was damaged. Once the relief well was drilled, they could finally get below the damaged pipework and simply jam mud into it through the relief well.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:54 PM
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123. not a drill rig, it's an oil refinery
Lee Hunt, president of the International Association of Drilling Contractors, said these types of rigs are permanently in place, often with a pipeline or oil and gas and water separation facilities on board.

"It's more like a small offshore refining operation," he said.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/coast_guard_responding_to_rig.html
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:13 AM
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31. Mariner Energy shares dip on reports of rig explosion
(Reuters) - Shares of Mariner Energy (ME.N) fell 5 percent to $22.30 on Thursday after reports of a possible oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico, with some media reporting that the rig was operated by Mariner.

Shares of Apache Corp (APA.N), which is expected to buy Mariner Energy, also fell 1.8 percent to $90.94.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6813PH20100902

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=APA

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ME
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NBachers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:13 AM
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32. The Environmental Greenpeace Militant Liberal democrat Terrists strike again
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:14 AM
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35. they say it wasn't drilling at the time of explosion
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:15 AM
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37. The rig was not active at the time of the explosion.
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More_liberal_than_mo Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:40 AM
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70. So why were 13 workers on it?
It was a production platform! If 13 workers were on it then one could assume that the reason they were there would be to either put it into production, shut down a producing well, or just maybe make sure it was in fact producing. Why else would there be workers on a non producing "production platform".
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:06 PM
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77. you still have to maintain it. you can't just let it sit out there unsecured
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:16 AM
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39. Here's the yahoo finance message board for Mariner Energy, Inc.
Lots of good info on here.

http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/mb/ME
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:20 AM
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45. Here we go again
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:24 AM
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46. Mariner is to be sold. Think the buyer will get a lower selling price?
http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Coast-Guard-reporting-rig-explosion-south-of-Grand-Isle-102065593.html

Mariner Energy focuses on oil and gas exploration and production company focused on the Gulf of Mexico. In April, Apache Corp., another independent petroleum company, announced plans to buy Mariner in a cash-and-stock deal valued at $3.9 billion, including the assumption of about $1.2 billion of Mariner's debt. That deal is pending.
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YankeeLeft7x Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:28 AM
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50. Not Surprised At All - Welcome to the 21st Century
Oh, how I am not shocked at all. Welcome to the 21st Century as the whole "shithouse goes up in flames."

Another day and another dollar. They will soon be going after your job and social security too! While the whole thing dissolves before ya too!
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:29 AM
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51. Can we PLEASE parlay this into a renewable energy policy?
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:30 AM
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53. "the rig was not actively producing at the time of the incident..."
As reported by NOLA.

Damn, I wish someone would get a handle on the explosive crap, HOH. Do they have any idea how dangerous that stuff is?


One of many such sites touting this truthy;

http://www.mmmfiles.com/mmm/index.php/2007-05-28/70/
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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58. Neither was the other site.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:30 AM
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54. so are they going to put the fire out with water?
like they did at Deepwater, causing the rig to sink and the gushing to start? :(
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anachro1 Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:31 AM
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55. Oh, look...
Just in time for a massive hurricane.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:35 AM
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56. Reading this story on Yahoo News, majority of RW posters all agree
that because we have a Dem President that is pro-environment that this is being done by him to get people off oil.

How delusional can people get. They are defending the hand that is destroying them.
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SugarShack Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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59. I believe it's terrorism...and they don't want us to know!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:03 PM
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74. It's caused by something far more fearsome and destructive than terrorism!
It's caused by corporate Capitalism.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:06 PM
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100. IMO corporate capitalism is terrorism. ( I like how you think). eom
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:42 PM
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89. Thank you for your concern.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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60. Breaking: Oil Rig Explodes of LA Coast
Source: MSNBC

GRAND ISLE, La. — An offshore oil rig exploded Thursday in the Gulf of Mexico, and the Coast Guard was responding to reports of people in the water.

The explosion occurred west of the site of the April blast that caused the massive BP oil spill.

Coast Guard Petty Officer Casey Ranel said the blast was reported by a commercial helicopter company about 9:30 a.m.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38973757/
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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61. Already posted in LBN.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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63. oh crap
I didn't see it. Sorry. :-\
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:37 AM
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66. Rec'd
because you did at least apologise.

:hi:
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:37 AM
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68. You have nothing to apologize for.... nt
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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62. oh good lord
:cry:
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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64. Is it a deep water rig? nt
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:37 AM
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67. 2500 feet under water
so half as deep as deepwater. but still...deep.
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TacoD Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:43 PM
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138. CNN reports 340 feet (nt)
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #138
181. yup. I saw that later...
the early report I saw (I think out of AP) said 2500 feet. I'm a lot "happier" with 340. Glad I'm wrong and thanks for update. :D
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 02:31 PM
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242. again, DHS reported 2500' while Mariner Corp reported 340' at same time
See my post 132.

I don't think one was a later report but they sure are conflicting reports. :crazy:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 AM
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65. Oh, great.
:(
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:40 AM
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71. Times-Picayune news story reposted by Common Dreams
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 11:44 AM by IndianaGreen
Published on Thursday, September 2, 2010 by the Times-Picayune (Louisiana)

BREAKING: Coast Guard Responding to Rig Fire Gulf of Mexico; People Reported in Water

by Bob Warren


The Coast Guard is responding to a report of a rig on fire "and people in the water'' in the Gulf of Mexico south of Vermilion Bay, authorities said.

Coast Guard Petty Officer Casey Ranel said the rig is around 90 miles south of Vermilion Bay and that a helicopter earlier today reported that it was in fire "and that there was smoke and there were people in the water.''

In an interview with CNN, Coast Guard Petty Officer Bill Colclough said there were 13 people on the rig and that all were accounted for. Twelve of the workers are in immersion suits and one is injured, he said.

Immersion suits protect the wearer from hypothermia.

All 13 people abandoned the rig after the explosion and are accounted for, but have not yet been rescued from the Gulf, the Coast Guard said.

Colclough said the rig was not actively producing at the time of the incident, but is still on fire. The explosion was reported around 9:30 this morning.

The injured will be taken Terrebone General Medical Center in Houma.

Eight helicopters, two airplanes and four boats are en route from Coast Guard stations in New Orleans and Houston, Ranel said.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/09/02-5

On edit, the explosion took place at 9:30 AM CDT, which would make it 10:30 am in New York.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:45 AM
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72. Drill baby, drill!
:puke:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:02 PM
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73. Just Heard On The Radio That A Sheen of Oil Has Been Spotted At The Site.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 12:04 PM by jayfish
Not sounding to good.

GRAMMAR EDIT
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:15 PM
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80. GRAMMAR EDIT EDIT
Not sounding to good.

Uh huh... Great editing!

TOO good. TOO good.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:27 PM
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85. I edited the title as it was nearly incomprehensible.
Who cares about the commentary? ...troll much?

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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:57 PM
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95. Well if he was anywhere near the rig no wonder it exploded.
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LTX Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:04 PM
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75. I have to wonder what the arguments against a moratorium will be now. n/t
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #75
81. Trust me, they figure SOMETHING out.
They will always find a way to convince us to stay on the Oil Tit.
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bherrera Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:22 PM
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107. Loss of employment for hundreds of thousands of workers
And the gradual loss of oil and natural gas supply from the offshore waters. I doubt this incident is related to the moratorium, because it took place in shallow water.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:57 PM
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125. 10 % of whom are foreign workers b/c the oil corps "can't find" any Americans
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 02:36 PM by wordpix
who are qualified.

I think they could find Americans to work on the rigs if they placed an ad, maybe.
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LTX Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:10 PM
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128. Huh?
Where are you getting the idea that Americans aren't qualified in oil and gas operations, or that there's some shortage of qualified Americans?
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:34 PM
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133. foreign-owned rigs are supposed to hire American workers but can hire foreign workers IF
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 02:35 PM by wordpix
and only if they can't find Americans qualified for the jobs.

10% of the Gulf's rig workers are foreign. I was sarcastically implying that we DO have Americans who could fill the jobs, but foreign rig owners bring their own foreign people here, instead, to drill on our Gulf.
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LTX Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:37 PM
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134. Oh.
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LTX Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:07 PM
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127. You're right about jobs,
though hundreds of thousands is a bit hyperbolic, and the effect is short term since no one proposed a permanent moratorium. And this may not have been effected by the moratorium in the first place, though 340 ft. isn't shallow. But the reasons for the moratorium related to OEM establishment of stricter drilling and production regulations, and an inspection of existing offshore operations for areas of non-compliance. This recent event only amplifies that need.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:05 PM
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76. Was Obama
anywhere near?
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:07 PM
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79. DRILL BABY DRILL!
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Joey Kidd Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:46 PM
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90. The more it changes...
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:46 PM
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91. Don't forget that we HAVE TO DRILL OFFSHORE
Just no way around it. You can ask a bunch of DU'ers.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:49 PM
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93. those arguing for a Moratorium... GOOD on YOU ALL!!!
Everytime you all turn out to be right, you should be given credit, to highlight how wrong your detractors have been while personally attacking you. They should have their faces rubbed in it, especially those who were less than honest while debating you all.
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TheMuse Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:53 PM
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94. But I thought shallow water drilling was SOOO much safer?
Can we please now push for alternative energy types? Pretty please?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:58 PM
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96. AGAIN?
When will we learn?


NEVER!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:38 PM
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135. Are you kidding? MSM are all arguing how great Iraq turned out.
Stupid time in America.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:06 PM
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101. Please don't tell me that a single drop of oil spilled
We had enough crap back in April. We don't need any more oil spilling in the Gulf especially in this era of polarized politics.
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maddogesq Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:18 PM
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104. Mile-long sheen now visible in Gulf after explosion.
Oh goody.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38973757/ns/us_news-life/

If the Dem had stones, they would immediately start calling to stop gulf drilling, and blame Jr. and the oil thugs for changing the rules. Then again, do the Dems have any stones?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:20 PM
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105. Drill baby drill!
Sad.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:22 PM
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106. I hate this.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:38 PM
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108. I thought there was a ban on offshore drilling?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:38 PM
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109. New offshore drilling.
This rig was idle.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:43 PM
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112. Ok thanks.
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TacoD Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #108
118. Also it is a ban on deep water drilling; this one is considered shallow water (nt)
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:50 PM
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117. accidents happen, I guess, right?
All the fucking time, they do, then we fuck up the country and its beached/oceans...No big deal.


God, I really hate oil and the oil industry, WTF do we keep getting ourselves into here? Will we ever move on beyond oil?

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Lightning Count Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #117
130. As you type on a computer made mostly of?
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 02:15 PM by Lightning Count
Unfortunately, petroleum is used for everything. I hate the industry, but I find it hard to hate oil.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:20 PM
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155. I'm typing on a natural Hemputer.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #117
164. we need alternative way to make plastic. most everything plastic is made out of oil.
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DrSteveB Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:50 PM
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119. Let's hope the Govt. does not minimize the actual damage again
We have to be told exactly how much oil is spilling, if any.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:53 PM
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121. Free Market.. Self Regulating Free Trade..(as long as it benefits Goldman Sachs)
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BDavinciNY Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:02 PM
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126. Here we go again!
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:39 PM
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136. K&R. Barbara Boxer spoke about this nonsense last night debating Fiorina.
When will people understand enough is enough.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:40 PM
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137. "Under production at the time of the fire."
according to this-

"The rig is a fixed platform that was in production at the time of the fire, according to a homeland security operational update obtained by The Associated Press.

The update said the platform was producing 58,800 gallons of oil and 900,000 cubic feet of gas per day. The platform can store 4,200 gallons of oil."

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2010/sep/02/10/oil-rig-explodes-louisiana-coast-ar-484740/

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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:45 PM
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139. I have a new jobs plan.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 02:45 PM by AllyCat
Hire the average person, train them, and then put thousands of them to work investigating and inspecting all the remaining rigs. Obviously, we have learned NOTHING from the last one except how to hide the evidence.

Arrrrrgghhhh!!!!!
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MikeMc Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:59 PM
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141. Hall i burton ? Nt
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
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143. Another rig explodes off La. coast; oil spreading
Source: AP

NEW ORLEANS, La. – Another oil rig exploded and caught fire Thursday off the Louisiana coast, spreading a mile-long oil sheen in the Gulf of Mexico west of the site of BP's massive spill. All 13 crew members were rescued.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100902/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_rig_explosion



I'm very concerned. By tomorrow, we may be hearing "it's worse than we thought." Here we might go again.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #143
144. On the bright side,
If they blow enough of them, you could probably find some pattern to it

:shrug:

What was going on during last one, what is going on during this one?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #144
145. Are you suggesting that somewhere there's an engineer saying:
"Okay, I think I've figured out what's going on;
can we try it one more time?"

Tesha
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
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148. I was sorta thinking....
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 03:44 PM by RandomThoughts
They are after Riggs!!!!!!!! They are after Riggs!!!!!!!!!!!

Lethal Weapon 1 -- Drug Deal Bust.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUlfNMTc6Xc



Krytonite song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg8gEIBs5CU


Voss... Interesting...


If you think of it from perspective of fear, you miss the point.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #143
146. Drill, Baby, Drill!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #143
147. This one is in less than four hundred feet of water, if they are telling the truth about it.
Probably this isn't that big a deal. Probably. I won't trust anything these days, of course. But oil rig accidents aren't that unusual. I spent much of my childhood afraid of them, since my dad worked offshore.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
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149. well actually DHS says it was in 2500 ft., it's the corpos saying 320 ft.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 02:42 PM by wordpix
go here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4526218

My post 132:

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/09/another...

snip:

The Department of Homeland Security said the rig was not in the process of producing oil and gas and was in about 2,500 feet of water and owned by Mariner Energy of Houston.

KPRC has different info from the AP/Washington Post stuff above: "Houston-based Mariner Energy spokesman Patrick Cassidy said the platform is in about 320 feet of water and was producing about 1,700 barrels of oil a day." snip


http://www.click2houston.com/news/24854694/detail.html

snip:

Houston-based Mariner Energy owns the platform. Spokesman Patrick Cassidy said the fixed petroleum platform is in about 320 feet of water.

"During the last week of August 2010, production from this facility averaged approximately 9.2 million cubic feet of natural gas per day and 1,400 barrels of oil and condensate," the company wrote in a statement. snip:

:wtf: Shallow water is now defined by an oil corp. as 1/2 mile down - more LIES!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #149
154. Figures. Conflicting reports. We'll have to wait to see which source is wrong. nt
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #147
153. Ixtoc I that blew out in the bay of Campece was in 160 feet of water
It blew fo about 9 months.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #143
150. only from the oil stored
the people onsite were saying (last I heard) that all the wells had been fully closed off. The stuff burning/leaking is what was in storage
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
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152. Exactly what they said about the last one!
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #143
151. please tell me this is a bad joke in very poor taste.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #151
158. I wish.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:21 PM
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156. All crew accounted for in Gulf blast
Source: upstreamonline.com

All crew accounted for in Gulf blast

US Coast Guard said all 13 crew members have been rescued after an explosion and fire at a facility in the Gulf of Mexico in Vermilion Block 380, about 80 miles south of Vermilion Bay off Louisiana.

Anthony Guegel 02 September 2010 15:26 GMT


The fire is now being “contained” by a vessel chartered by Mariner to douse the flames and two more fire-fighting vessels are en route in case they are needed, a Coast Guard spokesman told UpstreamOnline.

He said the oil sheen in the water is about a mile long and 100 feet wide and a Coast Guard chopper is monitoring its movement.

It has not been confirmed if the sheen came from the platform.

Coast Guard received reports around 9 am this morning of an installation on fire with 12 people in the water and one missing.

All 13 people were recovered from the water and all were wearing immersion suits.

more at: http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article228330.ece

This is a "production platform" and not a drilling rig, meaning it was drilled previously and a production platform installed on a fixed rig. These usually are there to clean the product a bit before pumping it onshore for further refinement. Also, the water depth is being reported here at 340 feet. This is not a deepwater platform.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:28 PM
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157. Drill, baby, drill.
:sarcasm:
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #157
240. No Drill, No Spill...
stole that from an anti-fracking sign, but works here too...
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:51 PM
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159. Oil leaking from blown well, according to NY Daily News -----

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/09/02/2010-09-02_offshore_oil_rig_explodes_in_gulf_of_mexico_west_of_massive_bp_blast_and_oil_spi.html


Watch Obama F*CK this up just like the last one.

Trust the oil companies. They'll brief the president RIGHT.



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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #159
160. How did Obama fyck it up?
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #160
161. Um, by being a corporate suck-up maybe?




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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #161
173. what ? how ? when?
nothing you have said has supplied any info - just vague babbling
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another saigon Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #160
171. seriously?
have you been asleep for the last five months?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #171
172. seriously.
please explain.
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another saigon Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #172
174. explain what?
:shrug:
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #174
176. "have you been asleep for the last five months?
what exactly did i miss? explain
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #159
165. knew it was only a matter of time before it he gets blamed...
:eyes:
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LTX Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #159
232. I'll second that request --
Exactly how did the President "fuck up" with respect to the BP explosion?

And I'll add an additional question -- What exactly do you want the President to do in this situation to prevent another alleged "fuck up"?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:46 PM
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166. Oh shit, not again!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:53 PM
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168. Mines collapse, oil rigs explode.........just part of the business. You must learn to embrace capit...
capitalism.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #168
169. do non capitalist cars run on magic dust? what's socialist plastic made out of?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #169
170. Is this Alan Greenspan or the ghost of Ayn Rand?
Capitalism, of course has it's place as does socialism. Unregulated capitalism will destroy itself and us with it.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #170
178. "Unregulated capitalism will destroy itself and us with it." that's a true statement,
but what does it have to do with the world's demand for fuel?
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #178
179. The oil companies need to be regulated. Currently they are operating with
impunity. Pres Obama needs to reign in the fucking oil companies.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #179
182. in complete agreement with you on that. we need to get a serious regulation bill going.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #182
215. Good luck. I think the Democrats are in the pocket of big oil as much as the republicans. nm
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #169
237. socialist plastic here
http://www.cereplast.com/homepage.php

Cereplast's renewable plastics are an economically and ecologically sound substitute for petroleum-based products. All Cereplast resins replace a significant percentage of petroleum-based additives with starches made out of corn, wheat, tapioca and
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:09 PM
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177. here we go again..
:P
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
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183. Mile-long sheen after Gulf oil platform explodes
Source: Associated Press

A mile-long sheen is now visible where an offshore petroleum platform exploded and burned Thursday off Louisiana, the Coast Guard said.

The Coast Guard said no one was killed in the explosion, which was spotted by a commercial helicopter flying over the site Thursday morning at about 9 a.m. CDT. All 13 people aboard the rig were found floating in the water in survival gear called "gumby suits", sticking close together, Coast Guard spokesman Chief Petty Officer John Edwards said...

The platform was in about 340 feet of water, considered shallow water and far less than the roughly 5,000 feet where BP's well spewed oil and gas for three months after an April rig explosion. The crew were rescued from the water by an offshore service vessel, the Crystal Clear, and taken to a nearby platform, said Coast Guard Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Eisai. All were being flown to a hospital in Houma to be checked over. Ben-Eisai said one person was injured, but the platform's owner, Houston-based Mariner Energy, Inc., said there were no injuries.

Mariner earlier said that an initial flyover showed no spill. It said the platform was located on Vermilion Block 380, approximately 100 miles off the Louisiana coast. The platform is a fixed petroleum platform that was in production at the time of the fire. It was producing about 58,800 gallons of oil and 900,000 cubic feet of gas per day. The platform can store 4,200 gallons of oil. Seven Coast Guard helicopters, two airplanes and three cutters were dispatched to the scene from New Orleans, Houston and Mobile, Ala., Ben-Iesau said...

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38973757/ns/us_news-life/
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #183
184. Martin or Charlie??
:shrug::hi:

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #184
191. Bishop Fulton
monroe county hospital
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #184
205. The worst quip ever.





:sarcasm:
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #183
185. I think its time to shut them all down
Do re-inspections and make sure they have corrected any failed safety measures before they can re start.
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #185
186. Seriously?
So when Ford does a recall because a problem caused some crashes does that mean all auto manufacturers need to be recalled as well?
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #186
188. That's a stupid comparison.
When cars crash, they don't hurt the environment on the same scale as an oil rig does when it leaks oil into the fucking ocean!

Gah! :eyes:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #188
194. as you note, when Ford screws up, its cars are recalled
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 01:40 PM by wordpix
in this case, not one well has been recalled for any number of malfunctions that have already been found in our oil drilling system
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #186
195. Ridiculous comparison.
When a safety defect is detected in an automobile, the vehicles affected are recalled and corrections are made.

Cars being recalled do not damage the environment when they have a defect. They do not put hundreds of thousands of people out of work.

Are you Tony Hayward or something? How could any reasonable person possibly defend the oil companies at this point? How many environmental disasters are we expected to endure before we get serious about putting a stop to them?
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #195
198. I'm not defending BP
But unilaterally stopping all drilling because of the actions of one or two actors couldn't possibly be more irresponsible.


You do know that basically not one action in the entire industry takes place without tons of licensing and inspecting done by the government. How about laying the blame at their feet as well?

I know we just need more regulation that won't be enforced right?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #198
201. Yes, we all know how effective the Minerals Management folks have been.
They may have done their jobs in between cavorting around with hookers.

Bush has left most Federal agencies under funded and over extended.

How many oil rig fires and disasters in the Gulf is enough to finally realize inspections have been sub-par for many, many years, especially after having two OIL MEN in the White House?

I guess the best thing to do is just ignore what's happening. If we ignore it, it will go away, right? :eyes:
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #201
202. Nobody said anything about ignoring
If you think the problems of regulation is as simple as "we had two oil men in the WH" then I've got some great ocean front property in Arizona for sale.........

This is the crux of the problem with regulation period. Our government/corporate bodies are nothing but revolving doors where people switch back and forth between the two....then they take a job regulating said industry.

My solution is quite simple. Hold them accountable. Every time things like this happen its the government that steps in and caps the liability of those responsible. BP should be on the hook for every dollar and cent possible. The people running things should also be held monetarily and criminally responsible (limited liability is probably one of the worst institutions ever).

If you knew your history you would know it was the federal government that stepped in during the industrial revolution and barred communities from joining in class action lawsuits against the plants and factories that polluted their air, water, ground, and bodies. Of course the reasoning was these factories are important for the "general welfare" of the whole population.

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #202
204. And yet, in order for there to be accountability, there must be regulation.
And someone will have to oversee that, most likely a government entity.

Or should we trust the industry to regulate itself and enforce accountability? That has worked out well so far, hasn't it? :eyes:
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #204
206. Need more straw for your many strawmen?
The way it is now we have cozy regulators and a government who protects these companies. You wouldn't need much regulation if companies and the people who run them were actually held accountable. This was never allowed to become the way things work because the government stopped the process from the start. Then they step in and allow limited liability and once something does happen they put caps on what these companies are responsible for.

I don't know where you're getting the idea I'm defending these companies. I actually want them held accountable where you simply want more feel good legislation and wasted resources on more regulatory position.

Since when have they "regulated" themselves? The oil industry is probably the most heavily regulated industry on the Earth. As I said though, the inherent problems with "regulation" in a fascist state don't allow them to be effective.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #206
208. No, I do not want more "feel good" legislation and "wasted resources".
I want legislation that is actually enforced and verified. Just exactly who do you propose hold these companies accountable? We're back to government.

These companies, especially the oil companies, have never had it so good since Dick Cheney invited them all in to a private, super secret meeting and decided on a plan to f&ck people over on the price of gasoline. And they did it. I still think high gas prices in 2008 are as much responsible for the recession as anything.

Again, two oil men in the White House have allowed the oil companies to party like it's a Roman Holiday.

Lack of regulation, lack of oversight, and looking the other way when there are conflicts of interest are responsible for this mess.

From what we've seen this summer, I'll take exception to your statement that the oil industry is the most heavily regulated industry on Earth. But then again, that's exactly what the oil industry wants us to think.
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #208
209. You just keep repeating the same inane argument
There's no substance. Your statement is the equivalent of loony right wingers saying "Durr Obama's a socialist and a Muslim"

How can you possibly expect regulation to be enforced by this wholly corrupt government? If you honestly think Obama and the Dems are wholly complicit then this is pointless.

Money talks. Period. If THE PEOPLE were actually allowed to hold them responsible through full monetary compensation then these companies would behave a lot better. Why bother with safety when you know the government will have your back?

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #209
211. Well, when you figure out how to make that happen by excluding the government,
you have at it, and more power to you.

Until then, I think I'll disengage. Your user name and post count, along with your insults and obvious desire stir it up, have raised some red flags. Enjoy your stay.
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #211
235. I already explained how
several times but apparently nobody bother to actually read on here.............
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #209
213. Does regulation need to be enforced? I thought the Corporations
said they could be voluntarily compliant and that they did not need supervision. Are you disputing the leaders of business and the Gods of the American dream?

Course my teenage daughter said that as well.
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #213
236. Is there a special
on strawmen here at DU? You guys have a never ending supply. Try actually reading my post and you'll see I said nothing of the sort. I support actually holding companies liable for their actions.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #185
187. yes indeed,
shut them down. they are destroying the eco system.
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #185
189. Agreed- they are destroying the ecosystem, and the livelihoods of many people
in the Gulf coast region. How much more of this will our government allow before they actually do something?!
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #185
192. That is not realistic. There are hundeds of wells operating in the Gulf right now.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 01:35 PM by kysrsoze
What we need is immediate, thorough and continued inspection in the way the FAA conducts airliner inspections. You don't shut production of all wells down. Much as I'd like to see us move off oil as quickly as possible, it's not happening.

Whatever happened to the expectation of realistic governance over kneejerk reaction? Any clue how much supply shock would result, and the size of the obligatory blowback the Whitehouse and Democratic Party would suffer from that action? The November election is already risky. Want to make the risk of Republican takeover of both houses an even bigger possibility? Then watch "Drill, Baby Drill" get pushed forward even more recklessly.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
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193. no there are thousands of wells & shallow wells are the "safe ones" in our Nat'l Sacrifice Area
er, Gulf Coast region.

Sorry but they all need to be inspected since BushCo's policy of non-inspections and fox-guarding-henhouse MMS did NOTHING in this regard.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
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196. I said they absolutely must be immediately inspected. That doesn't mean they need to be shut down.
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TexanRudeBoy Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #196
199. They are already
heavily inspected and licensed by our completely inept and corrupt government. How will more of the same actions solve the problems?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #183
190. yay.
:sarcasm:

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #183
197. So glad that shallow-water operations are so safe.
;-)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #183
200. Initial reports were that it wasn't producing oil, now it seems that it was


Have they put the fire out?
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #183
203. And it looks like ...
TD Gustav is going to head into the Gulf as a hurricane early next week.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
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207. I bet them bacterias done ate it all up already! n/t
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
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210. UPDATE: Coast Guard Refudiates Oil Sheen
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0902/Mariner-Energy-oil-rig-fire-extinguished-no-sign-of-oil-spill-in-Gulf

Mariner Energy oil rig fire extinguished, no sign of oil spill in Gulf
An oil rig run belonging to Mariner Energy caught fire in the Gulf of Mexico Thursday. The Coast Guard has now refuted earlier reports of an oil sheen on the water.
By Warren Richey, Staff writer / September 2, 2010

A fire on an offshore oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico has been extinguished, and officials say oil does not appear to be leaking from the facility.

The US Coast Guard is at the platform roughly 80 miles south of Vermillion Bay in Louisiana, and will continue to monitor the facility for signs of a leak, a Coast Guard official said on Thursday.

The announcement was welcome news along the beleaguered Gulf coast – a region that is still working to overcome the effects of the summer-long oil spill from the Deepwater Horizon rig.

US Coast Guard Capt. Peter Troedsson told reporters in New Orleans that officials near the rig have not been able to confirm an earlier report of a mile-long sheen of oil. No oil has been spotted in the water by Coast Guard officials, he said. “The boats and aircraft on scene cannot see a sheen,” he said. “We remain ready to respond if any sheen becomes visible.”...
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #210
212. Well see, they're going to Corexit that sheen tonight before
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 06:05 PM by Divernan
any independent scientists, oceanographers, boaters or fishermen can confirm it. The initial report came from a Mariner employee (what reason would he have to lie? none.) and then Mariner refuted it (what reason would Mariner management have to lie? $$$$$/liability/clean up costs/push for more regulations). I think you get the picture.

Cue the black helicopters and keep your kids and pets indoors.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #210
214. the bacteria ate it
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #210
238. someone saw a sheen a mile long yesterday but now it's gone...
AMAZING! :shrug:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #210
241. What a relief!!!
Shew.
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Synicus Maximus Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:07 PM
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216. How is 80 miles "near"?
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:14 AM
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221. Those for offshore drilling are responsible. Please change your positions
In the long run, it is not cost effective for the planet.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:25 AM
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222. in one very narrow sense, this reminds me of 9/11:
when one plane hit the World Trade Center, it could have been a freak accident. When the second hit, you knew it was something worse.

This could be the second tower for Gulf or even Peak Oil.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:56 AM
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223. How come all this shit is happening around our continent?
Why isn't it happening in the North Sea? Something to do with safety regulations, perhaps?
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freedomnorth Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:10 AM
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224. North sea peaked production in 1999. nt.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:59 AM
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225. But did they have explosions before that? n/t
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:01 AM
Response to Reply #225
226. Yes.
From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_platform#Risks
The nature of their operation — extraction of volatile substances sometimes under extreme pressure in a hostile environment — means risk; accidents and tragedies occur regularly. The U.S. Minerals Management Service reported 69 offshore deaths, 1,349 injuries, and 858 fires and explosions on offshore rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from 2001 to 2010. In July 1988, 167 people died when Occidental Petroleum's Piper Alpha offshore production platform, on the Piper field in the UK sector of the North Sea, exploded after a gas leak. The resulting investigation conducted by Lord Cullen and publicized in the first Cullen Report was highly critical of a number of areas, including, but not limited to, management within the company, the design of the structure, and the Permit to Work System. The report was commissioned in 1988, and was delivered November 1990. The accident greatly accelerated the practice of providing living accommodations on separate platforms, away from those used for extraction.

However, this was in itself a hazardous environment. In March 1980, the 'flotel' (floating hotel) platform Alexander L. Kielland capsized in a storm in the North Sea with the loss of 123 lives.

In 2001, Petrobras 36 in Brazil exploded and sank five days later, killing 11 people.

Given the number of grievances and conspiracy theories that involve the oil business, and the importance of gas/oil platforms to the economy, platforms in the United States are believed to be potential terrorist targets. Agencies and military units responsible for maritime counterterrorism in the US (Coast Guard, Navy SEALs, Marine Recon) often train for platform raids.

On April 20, 2010, the Deepwater Horizon platform, 52 miles off-shore of New Orleans, (property of Transocean and leased to BP) exploded, killing 11 people, and sank two days later. The resulting undersea gusher, conservatively estimated to exceed 20 million gallons as of early June, 2010, became the worst oil spill in US history, eclipsing the Exxon Valdez oil spill.

All of which simply underscores the need for strict enforcement of effective safety requirements.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:50 AM
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230. They are begging for it...

Nationalize the Energy Sector. k&r
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:21 PM
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239. one good reason to do it: the multinationals sell Gulf oil on international markets so
all their BS about "energy independence" is just that. The US gets NO Gulf oil unless it's bought through international trade, thrown in with ME oil et al.
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FraDon Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:22 AM
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231. Odd • My 1st thought: Are we under ATTACK (by "enemies foreign or domestic")?
When were Cheney's boys last on site?

Who profits? Perhaps, more insurance fraud?

Of course, it could have been an unfortunate accident.

.
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